In conclusion to the D3000 vs 1000D thread

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The time is now...

I am making a purchase this Saturday - so it really is the final lap..

Considering all things equal (that is the 'feel of it in one's hand')...

Lens prices...
Lens compatibility...

Which one should I get?
I'm scared of the lens compatibility of the Nikon.. and that should I want experiment in the future (AEB.., the Canon may be better suited..
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I really have no camera knowledge. This is my entry into a new hobby.

Can the camera guys give me their pseudo-professional opinion?
In other words, one without prejudice.

Please?

I will delete this thread after Saturday. (Since it is inevitable that many will moans about this thread (it's relation to a previous one..))
 
iDenTiTy said:
I really have no camera knowledge. This is my entry into a new hobby.
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The D3000 has menus designed for newbies, as well as a help button you can press at any point in the menu to give you information (ISO, aperture, shutter speed, white balance, focus, and more). It also has a graphical representation as opposed to a numerical representation of aperture and shutter speed, which is quite nice for a newbie (although they aren't such hard subjects to learn).

IMO I would be more concerned about the 1000D's poor build quality, than it having AEB and live view (you probably won't worry about LV once you've used a proper viewfinder).

Tough choice, I'd go for what feels best in your hands as both will take great pics far superior to any point & shoot. Both's equivalent lenses are roughly the same price.

If only the D3000 had AEB, I think it would be the clear winner. :D :mad:
 
Coming from someone who uses Sony, and has no preference to Canon and Nikon, I would say get the Nikon.
 
I don't know about in SA but here in Europe the 3rd party lenses (Tamron, Sigma, Tokina) seem to be cheaper when ther are Nikon mount than the exact same lens with the Canon mount. Sometimes as much as 10% cheaper. Given the choice all over again? I would probably go Nikon. That's not to say I am unhappy with my Canon setup.

Just my 2c worth.
 
You could go Canon now but you'd make a loss when you switch to Nikon...
 
rorz0r said:
You could go Canon now but you'd make a loss when you switch to Nikon...
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You could go Nikon now, but you'd make a loss when you switch to Canon...

Silly statement. Doesn't matter what you do, you lose if you change brands...
 
The Nikon's "Guide Mode" (read: newbie helper) is only useful for a week or two, until you become familiar with the camera and start reading DSLR books and websites. Then it is a white elephant. However, it's not a reason to avoid the D3000. I love the camera and will probably enjoy learning to take better pictures for a year or 2 before it really might seem limiting in some way. Lens prices aren't a real factor at the entry level, IMO.

Again, if you absolutely MUST buy now, I'd suggest the D3000 over the 1000D. But only you can decide, after going to Makro or B&H and phsyically testing the 2 cameras. Don't buy simply based on websites' suggestions!
 
MadMailMan said:
I don't know about in SA but here in Europe the 3rd party lenses (Tamron, Sigma, Tokina) seem to be cheaper when ther are Nikon mount than the exact same lens with the Canon mount. Sometimes as much as 10% cheaper. Given the choice all over again? I would probably go Nikon. That's not to say I am unhappy with my Canon setup.

Just my 2c worth.
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Do you think they might be cheaper because they dont contain whatever is necessary to auto focus on the lower end nikons like the 3000D?

Take the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG Macro where Sigma warns
Nikon Mount: NO built in motor lens: NOT compatible with D40, D40x, D60, D3000, D5000.
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On to the D3000 vs 1000D question. I'm sticking with my guns on this one - if you get either one you'll probably be disappointed. Not today but a year or two down the road. The manufactures seemed to have designed both to have compelling reasons to want to upgrade.

If you are determined that you cant wait then rent or borrow a body from each system for a weekend and see which you feel more comfortable with.
 
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bwana said:
Do you think they might be cheaper because they dont contain whatever is necessary to auto focus on the lower end nikons like the 3000D?

Take the Sigma 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG Macro where Sigma warns http://www.sigmaphoto.com/shop/24-70mm-f28-ex-dg-macro-sigma
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Might very well be bwana, being a Canon man I've never actually looked any deeper than pricing on the Nikon side of things. What you say makes perfect sense though.
 
My 2c ... as I always say a big factor would be to see how ergonomics and the menu systems of either brand suits you. Go into a store, grab a friends camera for a little bit and play. I knew nothing about SLRs when I bought my first and while I do lust after Nikon gear sometimes, especially for High ISO, I also know that my equipment by far surpasses my ability as a photographer. There is endless debate about which system is better at the beginner and pro ends of the spectrum, and you will see world famous photographers uses both and loving both. And that in essence says that its a matter of subjective choice.

I'm happy with my Canon gear and the only two factors are Nikons CLS Speedlights and their high iso ability. But in a couple of years, the tides may switch. or they may not. As long as you have a capable camera, the rest is up to you as a photographer.
 
Which one felt better in your hands and had a better menu system?

Get that one.
 
Brawler said:
Which one felt better in your hands and had a better menu system?

Get that one.
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This but with the next range of cameras (ie the XXD vs DXXX) because if the bug bites then that's probably where you're going to end up - unless you're me ;)
 
bwana said:
This but with the next range of cameras (ie the XXD vs DXXX) because if the bug bites then that's probably where you're going to end up - unless you're me ;)
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but if he doesn't have the money he doesn't have the money :(

I do agree with you though. I want a D5000/D90.
 
bwana said:
Dig deeper, food is overrated and petrol is a luxury when you have feet.
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The reason I'm not thinking about a better range, is that, perhaps, if I out grow the cam, I can give it to my parents (who own an 11 year old P&S).

For now, the important thing is to learn.
 
iDenTiTy said:
The reason I'm not thinking about a better range, is that, perhaps, if I out grow the cam, I can give it to my parents (who own an 11 year old P&S).

For now, the important thing is to learn.
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I always thought that when I outgrew my first dslr and upgraded I'd sell them but for some reason there they are right in front of me now. :D
 
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