Intel believes PCs will make a comeback

Remember, the average joe used to buy low end PCs for their day to day facebook crave(the majority of the market), now they use phones and tablets, this is what intel is talking about. (Not us enthusiasts)

I think their wrong, very cheap android tablets is the future for low income groups.
 
Necuno said:
My PC has gone somewhere?
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A lot of people don't know some basic concepts about economics. When new technologies are introduced they tend to start out at higher prices and them taper off as demand eases. PC market was in a mature state when mobile tech such as smartphones where introduced. Most who could own a PC already had one. Then smartphones came on the scene and sales rocketed. Some thought it would kill PC's just like they thought the laptop or notebook would. Same with tablets.

Some still think so.

What they seem to forget is that is the same innovation that enabled smartphones and tablets is also impacting desktop PC's making the componants in the PC more powerful, ensuring that while they don't have the advantage of being portable they will remain more powerful.

Smartphones are fast reaching saturation point in the market. Sales are declining. But they won't stop. Same with the PC.
 
how is a tablet or phone not a PC(personal computer)
It has a cpu, ram, hdd, gpu and OS(in most cases Android, iOS or even Windows)
All accept mouse & keyboard input

I guess Intel feels it's not a PC if it doesn't use a Intel CPU... but some tablets & phones do.
Unless they specifically refer to Desktop PC's only and exclude laptops, small form factor pc's, tablets, phones and consoles.
Why would they exclude all those surely their business is to get their chips into all of the above.
 
I love my PC.

The thing has never seen a game in it's life -but it's fast, a large screen and decent speakers. I much preferring posting or browsing on it rather than my tablet/smartphone/laptop. Even to post on MyBB when the reply is longer than a paragraph, I rather walk to the PC to reply. That's when things are serous ...
 
Vegeta said:
how is a tablet or phone not a PC(personal computer)
It has a cpu, ram, hdd, gpu and OS(in most cases Android, iOS or even Windows)
All accept mouse & keyboard input

I guess Intel feels it's not a PC if it doesn't use a Intel CPU... but some tablets & phones do.
Unless they specifically refer to Desktop PC's only and exclude laptops, small form factor pc's, tablets, phones and consoles.
Why would they exclude all those surely their business is to get their chips into all of the above.
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Intel do produce "mobile" hardware. The PC market is defined, which includes Desktops, Laptops, Pocket PCs (mobile devices like the Ubuntu Phone and previously failed go-to-market products) and components. Strictly speaking under definition a Smart Device superseded the Pocket PC.

PC = Desktops, Laptops and Components
 
Vegeta said:
how is a tablet or phone not a PC(personal computer)
It has a cpu, ram, hdd, gpu and OS(in most cases Android, iOS or even Windows)
All accept mouse & keyboard input

I guess Intel feels it's not a PC if it doesn't use a Intel CPU... but some tablets & phones do.
Unless they specifically refer to Desktop PC's only and exclude laptops, small form factor pc's, tablets, phones and consoles.
Why would they exclude all those surely their business is to get their chips into all of the above.
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Dude don't be silly/pedantic - sure we can classify your car or some cars as a computer if we wanted to same with consoles but what we talking about here is markets PC vs Mobile - I mean really or are you trolling? Doesn't Intel classify a AMD PC as a PC? A Surface "tablet" uses an Intel CPU btw.
 
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As I said a lot of mobile devices run Intel hardware.

So the classification is there only because it's defined, it only bothers industry "experts" because they've defined it but in reality it makes no difference if Intel ships 1 billion desktop CPU's or 1 billion mobile CPU's. What is dieing off? In reality Intel is probably shipping more and more CPU's year on year so business is booming... what is cannibalizing what? What should they or anyone be concerned about? I can't see the distinction as serving any other purpose than being a distinction, it has no effect on Intel or users of PC's be it mobile or desktop.

The only companies that need be concerned are those that exclusively supply desktop only components or software and if that's your only business it's time to wake up... you're 10 years late
 
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I'd say the vast majority of mobile devices sold, while making use of some Intel silicon, are not using Intel CPU's.

If you consider the size of the tablet market then there's a valid concern here and Intel need to put a very positive spin and marketing behind any - even marginally - good news. Neither Apple nor Samsung make use of Intel CPU's for their tablets so, if Apple for example ship 50 million iPads/year (they shipped 16.5 million in Q1 2014 apparently so this is a conservative number) and a large percentage of those buyers would likely have purchased some sort of PC/laptop then that's potentially tens of millions of CPU's Intel aren't shipping. It's going to make a material difference to their revenue/profit numbers since their mobile division has thus far failed to fire.
 
Please, if you plan to reintroduce PC's, design them so that they're easy to upgrade and replace parts.

And they must have enough CPU processing power for the task, yet use as little energy as possible.

Oh, and that the user must be able to use Linux (or their Operating System) of choice without any restrictions.

Is that too much to ask? :D
 
In the mean time we wait for their new proc which is now way overdue
 
rsfriend said:
since their mobile division has thus far failed to fire.
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Simple then... Intel needs to build better mobile CPUs. If they don't they shouldn't blame distinctions between desktop and mobile(distinctions they came up with to distinguish between their good product and their crap) they should blame themselves for building crap that no one wants.
 
Vegeta said:
Simple then... Intel needs to build better mobile CPUs. If they don't they shouldn't blame distinctions between desktop and mobile(distinctions they came up with to distinguish between their good product and their crap) they should blame themselves for building crap that no one wants.
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Smartphones (ASUS, Lenovo etc.) with Intel Inside is targeting the Asian markets, they do have the Motorola RAZR I in Europe, and the Yolo and E-20 in Africa, parts elsewhere they target the tablet market. When 64-bit is the norm, their processors will be more general in the market, we will also see AMD and IBM (which owns many patents, which makes them a technology partner) in the market.
 
I'm looking to buy the Microsoft Surface Pro 3 i7 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD 12" Full HD display.

Is it a notebook, a desktop (you can connect an external display) or a tablet ?

These classifications are becoming redundant.
 
They need to make them look like Apples tbh.

We want pretty PCs
 
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