Intel or AMD

Okay two things I need to gripe about.

The stock intel CPU cooler.They suck absolutely, managed to get some thermal paste and installed the Coolermaster hyper 212, what a massive difference 15 degrees cooler, idling at 31 where it idled at 46 with the stock cooler, what is intel thinking with there crap cooler these days, was the same issue with the cooler on the 2500K.

Secondly I would like to replace the after market cooler on the PCH, no idea where to start looking, so help would be nice on that, need some thing flatish as the PCH is right underneath the GPU, I noticed with the gigabyte board it gets stupidly hot around 67 ~ degrees underload, also relatively useless.I suspect this is what might have blown on the previous board when the fan controller failed on the GPU.So I am not taking any chances, and want to change that out as soon as possible, if possible.

Still anoyed how crappy stock intel coolers are as of late.

and lastly I think I am also going to replace the 120mm fans in my case, so any recomendation of that.Need a total of 6 fans, two decent fans for the CPU cooler highish RPM and the rest can be low RPM fans...

PCH is with in reason considering it's almost winter, but summer it is going to be a nightmare.Not sure PCH's isn't better cooled even on entry boards. ?
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Got the RX460 today. I am pretty chuffed, runs considerably cooler then the 570GTX, in most case the the fan stayed off or extreme low RPM while playing one or two games, threw rise of the tomb raider and tomb raider at it, butter smooth frame rates.

I didn't have much time to between having to order and to research GPU's, not in the least bit disappointed, of course a RX470 would have been miles better for the long term, but considering I have a modular PSU,I have removed the PCIe cables much more space.

So thanks for the assist guys, might not have been the best solution, on short notice I managed to get a system up and running and have started working in earnest again.The only niggle I have to sort out is the monitor had to borrow a screen with a DVI connector as the LED monitor I use doesn't have DVI and I didn't have a convertor for DVI-D or a cable.

Which would be better a DVI-D to VGA cable or Full HDMI to vga is there any significant delays with HDMI ?
 
wizardofid said:
Got the RX460 today. I am pretty chuffed, runs considerably cooler then the 570GTX, in most case the the fan stayed off or extreme low RPM while playing one or two games, threw rise of the tomb raider and tomb raider at it, butter smooth frame rates.

I didn't have much time to between having to order and to research GPU's, not in the least bit disappointed, of course a RX470 would have been miles better for the long term, but considering I have a modular PSU,I have removed the PCIe cables much more space.

So thanks for the assist guys, might not have been the best solution, on short notice I managed to get a system up and running and have started working in earnest again.The only niggle I have to sort out is the monitor had to borrow a screen with a DVI connector as the LED monitor I use doesn't have DVI and I didn't have a convertor for DVI-D or a cable.

Which would be better a DVI-D to VGA cable or Full HDMI to vga is there any significant delays with HDMI ?
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Is your monitor only VGA?

Avoid VGA at all costs. DVI and HDMI give the same picture quality, even if you use a converter between the two.
 
Chevron said:
Is your monitor only VGA?

Avoid VGA at all costs. DVI and HDMI give the same picture quality, even if you use a converter between the two.
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Yeah stupid mistake on my part ordered LG 21.5 inch LED last year, when my old monitor broke, was an entry level screen with only VGA, so right now there isn't any sort of budget for a new screen. Possibly later this year I could look at a secondhand screen would preferably like to get a 24inch then, pretty much had a ****ty year so far and last year with computer hardware, hardware broke at the least opportune time.

Which would be better the DVI-D to VGA or the HDMI to VGA, I checked it has a full HDMI port.
 
Chevron said:
Is your monitor only VGA?

Avoid VGA at all costs. DVI and HDMI give the same picture quality, even if you use a converter between the two.
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VGA is still fine <1080p if that's all the screen supports, DVI-A is pretty much the same. :p

If you can, HDMI, else DVI, then VGA. The signal quality can be noticeably better with an HDMI cable than a VGA, I noticed this with a display I got from Wootware as for some reason it got packaged with a VGA cable and I needed to go get an HDMI one (the screen's up-scaling was better, brightness was nicer, etc. Could have also been due to using a DVI-I to VGA adapter as I have an R9 280X that does not have a VGA port).

wizardofid said:
Yeah stupid mistake on my part ordered LG 21.5 inch LED last year, when my old monitor broke, was an entry level screen with only VGA, so right now there isn't any sort of budget for a new screen. Possibly later this year I could look at a secondhand screen would preferably like to get a 24inch then, pretty much had a ****ty year so far and last year with computer hardware, hardware broke at the least opportune time.

Which would be better the DVI-D to VGA or the HDMI to VGA, I checked it has a full HDMI port.
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Both of those require an active adapter, I'd probably get an HDMI to VGA one if you can find it, though none of them are that good.
Try: http://www.wootware.co.za/sunix-h2v37c0-hdmi-to-vga-dongle.html
1080p is about the limit of VGA though.
 
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Johnatan56 said:
VGA is still fine <1080p if that's all the screen supports, DVI-A is pretty much the same. :p

If you can, HDMI, else DVI, then VGA. The signal quality can be noticeably better with an HDMI cable than a VGA, I noticed this with a display I got from Wootware as for some reason it got packaged with a VGA cable and I needed to go get an HDMI one (the screen's up-scaling was better, brightness was nicer, etc. Could have also been due to using a DVI-I to VGA adapter as I have an R9 280X that does not have a VGA port).



Both of those require an active adapter, I'd probably get an HDMI to VGA one if you can find it, though none of them are that good.
Try: http://www.wootware.co.za/sunix-h2v37c0-hdmi-to-vga-dongle.html
1080p is about the limit of VGA though.
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Yeah being researching it a bit now, and discovered I need and active DVI convertor as a cable will not convertor to analog signal and the connection is definitely DVI-D, which means it's digital signal. I have asked my brother to look for either DVI-D or HDMI to VGA convertor he is coming this weekend from JHB so hopefully I can get it sorted, or else I need to revert back to 570GTX in the meantime, no biggie, but all that effort and hassle all for naught.

The one you have linked isn't exactly cheap saw cheaper ones most were about R250.00, at nearly R400 it isn't worth and likely better off getting a secondhand screen with a couple of 100 more..
 
wizardofid said:
Yeah being researching it a bit now, and discovered I need and active DVI convertor as a cable will not convertor to analog signal and the connection is definitely DVI-D, which means it's digital signal. I have asked my brother to look for either DVI-D or HDMI to VGA convertor he is coming this weekend from JHB so hopefully I can get it sorted, or else I need to revert back to 570GTX in the meantime, no biggie, but all that effort and hassle all for naught.

The one you have linked isn't exactly cheap saw cheaper ones most were about R250.00, at nearly R400 it isn't worth and likely better off getting a secondhand screen with a couple of 100 more..
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The active part makes it expensive, their quality varies a lot, none of them are great. If you can, rather sell the old monitor and try and get a second hand with HDMI support.
I was looking in to this due to only having HDMI ports on all my laptops and the projector only has a VGA input.
 
Johnatan56 said:
If you can, HDMI, else DVI, then VGA. The signal quality can be noticeably better with an HDMI cable than a VGA, I noticed this with a display I got from Wootware as for some reason it got packaged with a VGA cable and I needed to go get an HDMI one (the screen's up-scaling was better, brightness was nicer, etc. Could have also been due to using a DVI-I to VGA adapter as I have an R9 280X that does not have a VGA port).
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VGA is uses analogue signals and noise is noticeable on them
 
This basically the monitor I borrowed from my Taiwanse neighbor said I was going to borrow it for about two weeks to get my stuff sorted.I originally got the screen for him back in 2012.If I were to ask him to sell it to me what would be a reasonable price the Price back then was R951 according to the takealot invoice I have considering the screen age, I am hesitant to pay any thing over R350 for it ?

https://www.amazon.com/LG-E2060T-PN-20-Inch-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B004SBCHKI
 
wizardofid said:
This basically the monitor I borrowed from my Taiwanse neighbor said I was going to borrow it for about two weeks to get my stuff sorted.I originally got the screen for him back in 2012.If I were to ask him to sell it to me what would be a reasonable price the Price back then was R951 according to the takealot invoice I have considering the screen age, I am hesitant to pay any thing over R350 for it ?

https://www.amazon.com/LG-E2060T-PN-20-Inch-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B004SBCHKI
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Does it still work well? Probably between R400 and R900 depending on condition/quality. Make an offer of R350 and see what he says, it's second hand, it's more what he's willing to part with than what it's worth.
 
wizardofid said:
This basically the monitor I borrowed from my Taiwanse neighbor said I was going to borrow it for about two weeks to get my stuff sorted.I originally got the screen for him back in 2012.If I were to ask him to sell it to me what would be a reasonable price the Price back then was R951 according to the takealot invoice I have considering the screen age, I am hesitant to pay any thing over R350 for it ?

https://www.amazon.com/LG-E2060T-PN-20-Inch-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B004SBCHKI
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Have you been using it since 2012?
 
ponder said:
Have you been using it since 2012?
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They have been using it every day since I got it for them up to last year for CCTV.

Does it still work well? Probably between R400 and R900
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Well takealot invoice says R951, for a 5 year old screen used daily is a massive risk, the picture is a bit on the dark side might just be the monitor it self, my LG compared to this one is quite bright, is it perhaps a sign it's one it's way out ?
 
wizardofid said:
They have been using it every day since I got it for them up to last year for CCTV.

Well takealot invoice says R951, for a 5 year old screen used daily is a massive risk, the picture is a bit on the dark side might just be the monitor it self, my LG compared to this one is quite bright, is it perhaps a sign it's one it's way out ?
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The R900 is just looking at similar screens on e-bay, the majority of the same age/resolution are all attempting 20-60 dollars.
It could be the back-light, but I am guessing it's due to advancements in tech, it's rated at 250 cd/m^2 which should make it about the same brightness among LG monitors but that test isn't properly standardized. Do you have another of the same model to compare it to?
 
It's hard to compare rand prices with that of ebay, you can't really do a straight conversion, as I said before the price paid for the monitor is R951.00 back in to 2012.A replacement monitor is about R200.00 bucks more, over 5 years I am hard pressed to pay any over R400.00
 
wizardofid said:
It's hard to compare rand prices with that of ebay, you can't really do a straight conversion, as I said before the price paid for the monitor is R951.00 back in to 2012.A replacement monitor is about R200.00 bucks more, over 5 years I am hard pressed to pay any over R400.00
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That's why ball-park. Your figure of R350 is perfectly fine if you both accept it. It's second hand, it's more a case of what are you willing to pay, at what price is he willing to part with it.
 
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