Intermittent Fasting

saor said:
To take the risk of what? Eating in a way that feels natural? There's nothing magical about 3 meals a day.
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Actually eating every two hours is the magical number. Maintains balanced blood sugar levels.
 
Jings said:
Actually eating every two hours is the magical number. Maintains balanced blood sugar levels.
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If that works for you, cool, but for many people eating less regularly feels better and is better for them. We didn't always have the luxury of eating every two hours; sometimes when you're foraging you go hungry for stretches at a time.
 
The thought of eating breakfast actually makes me a bit nauseous now. If you ever tried waking up a couple hours before your usual rising time and tried to eat breakfast extra early you'll understand what I'm talking about.
 
Jings said:
Actually eating every two hours is the magical number. Maintains balanced blood sugar levels.
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My blood sugar levels stay balanced regardless of when/if I eat...

Mankind has not had access to food 24/7 until recent times. Feasting & fasting has been the dominant eating paradigm for a lot longer than our modern lifestyles.

I'm with Saor that the study was probably done in an unnatural environment. Rat studies done under artificial light have no bearing on optimal human biology... infact if you want to induce insulin resistance in man a precise mechanism to use would be to uncouple from circadian biology and eat carbs under modern 'blue-light spiked' artificial lighting!
 
mister said:
My blood sugar levels stay balanced regardless of when/if I eat...

Mankind has not had access to food 24/7 until recent times. Feasting & fasting has been the dominant eating paradigm for a lot longer than our modern lifestyles.

I'm with Saor that the study was probably done in an unnatural environment. Rat studies done under artificial light have no bearing on optimal human biology... infact if you want to induce insulin resistance in man a precise mechanism to use would be to uncouple from circadian biology and eat carbs under modern 'blue-light spiked' artificial lighting!
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Maybe it's different for some of us afflicted with insulin resistance. Skipping a meal can mean a drop in sugar level where it feels everyone around is talking garbled and you start to lose consciousness. It's happened to me several times. Fasting induces a surge of insulin.
 
Jings said:
Maybe it's different for some of us afflicted with insulin resistance. Skipping a meal can mean a drop in sugar level where it feels everyone around is talking garbled and you start to lose consciousness. It's happened to me several times. Fasting induces a surge of insulin.
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There's an adaptation period, also the types of food you eat makes a massive difference. In general for intermittent fasting you'd want to drastically decrease your carb intake and increase the amount of fat you consume.
 
Polymathic said:
There's an adaptation period, also the types of food you eat makes a massive difference. In general for intermittent fasting you'd want to drastically decrease your carb intake and increase the amount of fat you consume.
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Makes no difference whether high protein low carb or not in my case. Eating regularly helps, as well as cutting out refined carbs and sugars. Bread is a big culprit.

This clip is an example of what can happen when someone with insulin resistance skips a meal.

 
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Polymathic said:
There's an adaptation period, also the types of food you eat makes a massive difference. In general for intermittent fasting you'd want to drastically decrease your carb intake and increase the amount of fat you consume.
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+1 keto works wonders with 16:8 IF.
 
Jings said:
Makes no difference whether high protein low carb or not in my case. Eating regularly helps, as well as cutting out refined carbs and sugars. Bread is a big culprit.
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Part of the problem is we've been so indoctrinated with the idea of 3 meals a day and always eating that we never really pause to question the narrative. Eating less feels better for many people once you're used to it, and I think it's good to occasionally stressing the body and not get stuck in a habit of just eating because you think you have to.

But yes - obviously there are people for whom this wouldn't be a good idea.
 
saor said:
Part of the problem is we've been so indoctrinated with the idea of 3 meals a day and always eating that we never really pause to question the narrative. Eating less feels better for many people once you're used to it, and I think it's good to occasionally stressing the body and not get stuck in a habit of just eating because you think you have to.

But yes - obviously there are people for whom this wouldn't be a good idea.
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Yep, very likely genetics plays a factor then. It's important to be sure beforehand that intermittent fasting does not negatively affect your insulin levels. Unfortunately I learned the hard way and now stuck with a condition.
 
I find that if I eat nonsense carbs like cereal for breakfast (even though I tend to avoid it due to IF) I get the shakes from hunger a few hours later.
I'm guessing it's the blood sugar dropping?
 
kolaval said:
I find that if I eat nonsense carbs like cereal for breakfast (even though I tend to avoid it due to IF) I get the shakes from hunger a few hours later.
I'm guessing it's the blood sugar dropping?
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Yes, but even a good quality high protein cereal like Futurelife is not going to prevent a drop in sugar levels. A fresh fruit snack helps to balance out sugar levels and provides an energy boost between breakfast and lunch.
 
For the IF/Keto gang. Do you guys have your coffee black in the morming or do make the keto coffee with cream/oils etc.

I'm doing the latter so just curios what everyone else is doing.
 
I do black coffee and tea until I break my fast. Mostly water though.

After fast is broken I do put a splash of milk in my coffee.
 
Black coffee, no sugar... no calories during the fast, not even a drop of milk or a gram of sugar or any oils etc.

During my feeding window, I rarely change my coffee, preferring not to develop a taste for the sweet/milky variety.
 
A word of warning please check the label if you are using instant coffee. I know that Ricoffee has dextrose ( a type of sugar) in it.
 
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