iPad tethering

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There is a thread here somewhere. with tweaked IPCC files. They work. My ipad4 now has personal hotspot.
 
If someone is willing to pursue the matter, I'd like to tell you that is in contravention with South African law. They effectively lock device to the network (at least some network features) and it is illegal. Network providers should not be allowed to import such iPads, unless Apple releases uniform configuration for all South African networks.
 
sajunky said:
If someone is willing to pursue the matter, I'd like to tell you that is in contravention with South African law. They effectively lock device to the network (at least some network features) and it is illegal. Network providers should not be allowed to import such iPads, unless Apple releases uniform configuration for all South African networks.
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It is not network locked at all. You can use any simcard in it.

The network is free to decide whether to allow you to use the device for tethering or not - it's their network so they can set the policy.
 
sajunky said:
If someone is willing to pursue the matter, I'd like to tell you that is in contravention with South African law. They effectively lock device to the network (at least some network features) and it is illegal. Network providers should not be allowed to import such iPads, unless Apple releases uniform configuration for all South African networks.
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Interesting - which laws specifically?
 
Sinbad said:
Network locking means you can only use one network's SIM card in the device.
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You can always use different SIM, even in SIM-locked devices. Such SIM-locked device will be not functional or having limited functionality when inserting different SIM card. Law protects customers from such situation.
 
sajunky said:
You can always use different SIM, even in SIM-locked devices. Such SIM-locked device will be not functional or having limited functionality when inserting different SIM card. Law protects customers from such situation.
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No you can't, actually.
A sim locked device will have only emergency call functionality without its home network sim in it. Nothing else.
 
Sinbad said:
No you can't, actually.
A sim locked device will have only emergency call functionality without its home network sim in it. Nothing else.
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This feature is enforced by GSM standard. I talk about South African law and what law is about.
 
Sigh.
The law prevents networks selling devices that are restricted to that particular network.

In this case that is not relevant. It is a feature OF THE NETWORK that THE NETWORK has chosen not to implement.

Also, I didn't get my iPad from 8ta - so now you want to prosecute FNB for selling a device that one of the networks may not implement all features of?
Why not go one further - nail all the networks for not having dual line functionality, which the GSM standard also supports?
 
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Sinbad said:
Sigh.
The law prevents networks selling devices that are restricted to that particular network.

In this case that is not relevant. It is a feature OF THE NETWORK that THE NETWORK has chosen not to implement.
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Bold sentence is correct. From the law side it doesn't matter how restriction works and who is behind (a body controlling restriction), it is activated by inserting network SIM and works as SIM lock restricting device capabilities.
It is not a network feature, not at all. It is device feature.

Re: FNB, it can be restricted from selling such device the same as anybody else. Law makers will not look what plot is behind FNB and its connections, they look at public interest.
 
You don't understand what a network locked device is, clearly, and don't want to.
 
sajunky said:
This feature is enforced by GSM standard. I talk about South African law and what law is about.
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I'll ask again - specifically what SA law are you referring to. If you don't know then just say so.
 
bwana said:
I'll ask again - specifically what SA law are you referring to. If you don't know then just say so.
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I told you that. Do research of your own. The same law which prevents SIM-locking, as Apple configuration mechanism is effective SIM-locking giving advantage of some network operators against others. To comply with the law they have to supply uniform configuration files each and every network in South Africa.
Is anything above you don't understand?
 
sajunky said:
I told you that. Do research of your own. The same law which prevents SIM-locking, as Apple configuration mechanism is effective SIM-locking giving advantage of some network operators against others. To comply with the law they have to supply uniform configuration files each and every network in South Africa.
Is anything above you don't understand?
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No they do not.

The network operators can request enabling and disabling of features, such as tethering, as operators may have options like uncapped data on devices, which they do not want to make available to non-phone devices...? APPLE DO NOT MAKE THIS DECISION. THE NETWORKS PROVIDE THE CONFIG SETTINGS TO APPLE, WHO JUST DISTRIBUTE THEM. If the network doesn't want to make tethering available, that's THEIR OWN CHOICE. Apple has NOTHING to do with it. If configuration files were uniform, NOTHING WOULD WORK as different networks have different APN names, different SMSCs, different voicemail numbers, etc...

It's not sim locking. NETWORK LOCKING IS PREVENTING DEVICES YOU SELL (EG SUBSIDISED HANDSETS) BEING USED ON OTHER CELLULAR NETWORKS.
 
Sinbad said:
The network operators can request enabling and disabling of features, such as tethering, as operators may have options like uncapped data on devices, which they do not want to make available to non-phone devices...?
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Ommitted even reading shouting, didn't bother - just responding to above.
There are reports than network operators requested enabling tethering from Apple and there are waiting for response, it takes quite too long for now.
Secondly, network operators are unable disabling tethering on all available network devices and user can switch SIM card freely between devices (as required by law), this 'feature' cannot be used as regulating mechanism for uncapped data. Therefore I see this is assumption made by you and is complete rubbish. So please think about your further posting.
Network operators use shaping for regulating traffic and it is much more effective than chasing all hacked Apple devices.
 
In English please?

And to answer your point: 8ta reps have you requested a carrier update to allow tethering? I'm assuming no unless you say otherwise.
 
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I'm backing off but because you refuse to read and understand. My point stands: not enabling tethering is not illegal.
 
sajunky said:
I told you that. Do research of your own. The same law which prevents SIM-locking, as Apple configuration mechanism is effective SIM-locking giving advantage of some network operators against others. To comply with the law they have to supply uniform configuration files each and every network in South Africa.
Is anything above you don't understand?
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So in effect you just don't know.

When you've found the legislation that specifically covers your allegations then there's something worthy of discussions until then it's a bit premature for you to dispense legal advice.
Sinbad said:
I'm backing off but because you refuse to read and understand. My point stands: not enabling tethering is not illegal.
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Agreed.
 
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