iPhone 13 discussions

Spizz said:
I hope not. I love the size of the 12 and had been looking forward to the equivalent sized 14.
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It's highly unlikely that Apple will continue the Mini.

iPhone 14 will get complete redesign and lose mini model in 2022
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appleinsider.com

iPhone 14 will get complete redesign and lose mini model in 2022 | AppleInsider

Apple's next iPhone release, the "iPhone 14," will have more changes than the iPhone 13, according to a report, with a "complete redesign" on the cards for the 2022 models.
appleinsider.com appleinsider.com
 
genetic said:
It's highly unlikely that Apple will continue the Mini.


appleinsider.com

iPhone 14 will get complete redesign and lose mini model in 2022 | AppleInsider

Apple's next iPhone release, the "iPhone 14," will have more changes than the iPhone 13, according to a report, with a "complete redesign" on the cards for the 2022 models.
appleinsider.com appleinsider.com
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I think "highly unlikely" is pushing what is known too far. The whole rumour mill about the demise of the Mini seems to be based around Jon Prosser and his "leaked" renders. Prosser doesn't actually have that stellar a record for his predictions.
 
Dave said:
I think "highly unlikely" is pushing what is known too far. The whole rumour mill about the demise of the Mini seems to be based around Jon Prosser and his "leaked" renders. Prosser doesn't actually have that stellar a record for his predictions.
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The 12 Mini only accounted for around 5% of their total sales apparently. Is it even worth it to develop another one after the 13?
 
"iPhone 15 featuring more RAM"...

As if thats not the obvious expectation of every new iPhone model. -_-.

I would think apple needs to change the model name of the iPhone...

Like Samsung got different ranges... J4 A11 S21 ...

iPhone just got... iPhone Number...
 
The Voice said:
The 12 Mini only accounted for around 5% of their total sales apparently. Is it even worth it to develop another one after the 13?
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That 5% stat is slightly misleading as it is 5% of a very large number, you know that means the 12 Mini sold more units than the Samsung S21 Ultra?

I'll see if I can find the article that discussed it.
 
genetic said:
The SE is a completely different skew to the Mini.
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The last SE was release with the 11, which didn’t have a Mini.
Considering my previous phone was the 6s, it’s more of a concern when the time comes.
Since the body design was based on TouchID models, I used the same cover which was a win.
 
Dave said:
That 5% stat is slightly misleading as it is 5% of a very large number, you know that means the 12 Mini sold more units than the Samsung S21 Ultra?
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But it's still only 5% and considered a failure ?
 
Dolby said:
But it's still only 5% and considered a failure ?
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By who? Apple have never called it a failure. Do Samsung consider the S21 Ultra a failure?

Similar sales but Apple supposedly make more per unit.

The truth is, no one but Apple know what they intend to do with the Mini or the SE, everything is just speculation.
 
Dave said:
By who?
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In the real world if you make 2 products - and one accounts for 95% of sales, and the other 5% - the lower on is often considered failed .

www.forbes.com

Apple Winds Down iPhone 12 Mini Production

For all of the demand in the media and focus groups, Apple will look back on 2020's iPhone family with a wide range of emotions, because something did not go to plan...
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
www.thurrott.com

Report: iPhone 12 Mini is a Failure as Apple Cuts Production

We’ve seen lots of reports about the iPhone 12 Mini underperforming Apple’s sales projections, but now the firm has cut production.
www.thurrott.com www.thurrott.com
www.indiatoday.in

iPhone 12 Mini fails to gain popularity among users, production cut

As per reports, Apple is cutting down iPhone 12 Mini production by around 20 percent for the first half.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in
www.inputmag.com

Was the iPhone 12 mini a mistake?

Apple is reportedly going to kill the iPhone mini in 2022. Did Apple completely miscalculate with the iPhone 12 mini or can it still be saved?
www.inputmag.com www.inputmag.com
www.digitaltrends.com

If the iPhone 12 Mini couldn’t revive small phones, what can?

Apple's iPhone 12 Mini was expected to lead a revival of small phones, but its poor sales means that Android phone makers are unlikely to follow suit.
www.digitaltrends.com www.digitaltrends.com
 
Dave said:
Except they don't just sell 2 products, they currently sell 8 mobile phone products.
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I'm giving an example .

In other words, the other products far outsell that particular one and it's the least popular
 
Dolby said:
I'm giving an example .

In other words, the other products far outsell that particular one and it's the least popular
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Yes, but Apple is in the process of getting as many devices into as many hands as possible, so while it may have sold the least or not make as much or any money, Apples current goal is recurring revenue as many users hold onto iPhone for 2-5 years, getting users onto subscription services is a key driver at apple, and slow selling device making little or no money on hardware, would likely equate to a reasonable percentage of said users signing up to one of more of the subs converting the device from a loss to a loss leader.

A friend of mine is not a fan of the bigger phones and the SE did not seem like a viable upgrade so he just moved from a 6s to a 13 mini.

So 5% in hardware sales is ****, no doubt about that, but users on older devices are upgrading, new users wanting phones that are both small and not **** could be moving from Android to Apple or buying their first phone and like the fact that you can get a tier 1 phone in a small form factor.

Apple along now show many of those users have been converted into a RRS. The 12 mini was also considered a flop and the 13 mini was never going to exist, yet it does.

We at a point where subscribers are actually worth more than buyers, why get lump sums once a year, 2 years, 5 years when you can get small amounts every single month.
 
Dolby said:
So, if they discontinue it going forward, what would the reason be ?
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I’d classify as more pack of business value as apposed to sales as the sales volume is not creating the desired level of RR.
 
CranialBlaze said:
I’d classify as more pack of business value as apposed to sales as the sales volume is not creating the desired level of RR.
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I see.

So it makes up just 5% of the sales ?
Every industry expert globally is calling it a failure ?
Apple device to drop it ?

But you won't class it as a failure ...
 
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