iPhone 5 or S4

genetic said:
I'm faintly amused by your crashes / slowdowns and janky scrolling comment too. My Sensation, S3 and S4 never suffered any of this.

The camera app on my S4 would cause the phone to reboot on the odd occasion, but that was fixed with a software update.
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Must have been my imagination then. Or the wrong rom. Or my phone was too slow for the real experience. Or i need to learn to cook my own roms. or something. Apologies.

Yeah I REALLY wish there was a decent music app. Don't even listen to music on my phone because the apps are so unintuitive
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People act as though listening to music is some kind of trivial toy functionality but I probably listen to audio on my phone 3-4 hours a day; in the gym, at work, commuting, audiobooks, podcasts, spoken messages, classical, new music, whatever.
 
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cerebus said:
Must have been my imagination then. Or the wrong rom. Or my phone was too slow for the real experience. Or i need to learn to cook my own roms. or something. Apologies.


People act as though listening to music is some kind of trivial toy functionality but I probably listen to audio on my phone 3-4 hours a day; in the gym, at work, commuting, audiobooks, podcasts, spoken messages, classical, new music, whatever.
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I haven't found a decent podcast app on android either. I'm using podcast addict but it's nowhere near as good as the apple one
 
cerebus said:
Must have been my imagination then. Or the wrong rom. Or my phone was too slow for the real experience. Or i need to learn to cook my own roms. or something. Apologies.
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All we are saying is that it's not fair to disregard the fact that many other people do not experience the issues (and frequency thereof) as you describe. The iPhone is a top end phone. If you would like to compare iOS to Android, it is only fair to compare the iOS experience with the experience found with top end Android devices. The Nexus range might make a good benchmark, as will the best phones from HTC and Samsung.
 
Viva said:
All we are saying is that it's not fair to disregard the fact that many other people do not experience the issues (and frequency thereof) as you describe. The iPhone is a top end phone. If you would like to compare iOS to Android, it is only fair to compare the iOS experience with the experience found with top end Android devices. The Nexus range might make a good benchmark, as will the best phones from HTC and Samsung.
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Exactly. Well said. You can't compare a R2000 android device to a R8000 Apple device. You need to compare high end Android devices.
 
genetic said:
Exactly. Well said. You can't compare a R2000 android device to a R8000 Apple device. You need to compare high end Android devices.
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Xperia V is faster than an S3. It's R6000 at Vodacom. It's far better specced than a 4S. 1280x800, 1.5ghz dual core snapdragon 600, 1gb ram, 13mp camera, waterproofing. It's a really nice phone. It's not as fast as a One or S4 but it's really just in the tier below those phones. I did consider swapping it for an S3, but I asked a friend with an S3 about it and he said his custom rom is also freezing and restarting on him. Well... I said perhaps go Cyan. In the end though for myself, I got to a certain point and then said stupid man cerebus, if you are a fanboy then you just are.
 
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cerebus said:
Xperia V is faster than an S3. It's R6000 at Vodacom. It's far better specced than a 4S. 1280x800, 1.5ghz dual core snapdragon 600, 1gb ram, 13mp camera, waterproofing. It's a really nice phone. It's not as fast as a One or S4 but it's really just in the tier below those phones. I did consider swapping it for an S3, but I asked a friend with an S4 about it and he said his custom rom is also freezing and restarting on him. Well... I said perhaps go Cyan. In the end though for myself, I got to a certain point and then said stupid man cerebus, if you are a fanboy then you just are.
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Fair enough. I assume you experienced some issues with the phone while still on the stock rom. That's a shame.

That said, I believe most people with high end Android devices (like people with iPhones) don't have many issues. I might be wrong though.
 
Viva said:
Fair enough. I assume you experienced some issues with the phone while still on the stock rom. That's a shame.
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No I would say stock rom didn't experience lags and freezes. But it was 4.1.2 and I wanted 4.3.

That said, I believe most people with high end Android devices (like people with iPhones) don't have many issues. I might be wrong though.
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It all depends on use cases. To do what I wanted on the V took a large amount of effort whereas it is very straightforward and solid on the iPhone, and the interface to do those things is much better. For someone who values customisation, freedom, a large screen for doing whatever those large screen people do, they can't imagine why anyone would prefer an iPhone which appears childishly simple.
 
I loaded the pre-release of iOS 7 on a iPhone 5 this weekend but it was buggy and kept freezing and closing apps so I am going back to Android.
 
Crowley said:
I loaded the pre-release of iOS 7 on a iPhone 5 this weekend but it was buggy and kept freezing and closing apps so I am going back to Android.
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Same reason I'm holding off for the official release. Thankfully there is definitely going to be an official release of the latest version of iOS for my phone.
 
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cerebus said:
Same reason I'm holding off for the official release. Thankfully there is definitely going to be an official release of the latest version of iOS for my phone.
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Isn't it like loading a third party rom on a phone and then proclaim Android to be crap? Maybe you should have used your Android phone with the version it came with?
 
Crowley said:
Isn't it like loading a third party rom on a phone and then proclaim Android to be crap? Maybe you should have used your Android phone with the version it came with?
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Yeah I got the analogy thanks.

I didn't load a third party rom and THEN proclaim Android to be crap. I did give it a pretty good go on the stock 4.1.2 rom. But why do I have to load a crap buggy third party rom to get access to the latest version of Android? It's always like this. If you've got a complaint about anything in Android you either need to root, or you need to not root, or you need a One True Android phone, or you need third party software to add features that One True Android Phones phones don't have OoB. But the fundamental reasons for ditching it would have been present on any Android phone in the current state of the Android ecosystem. Like I said, if I'm a fanboy I'm a fanboy.
 
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cerebus said:
Yeah I got the analogy thanks.

I didn't load a third party rom and THEN proclaim Android to be crap. I did give it a pretty good go on the stock 4.1.2 rom. But why do I have to load a crap buggy third party rom to get access to the latest version of Android? It's always like this. If you've got a complaint about anything in Android you either need to root, or you need to not root, or you need a One True Android phone, or you need third party software to add features that One True Android Phones phones don't have OoB. But the fundamental reasons for ditching it would have been present on any Android phone in the current state of the Android ecosystem. Like I said, if I'm a fanboy I'm a fanboy.
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If I was in the movies, I would stand up right now and start a slow clap.

One of the reasons why I am seriously thinking of changing to iOS.
 
genetic said:
:erm: You don't.


But as you said. Apple fanboi reasoning...
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What should I have done then to even get 4.2 on my current-gen Xperia V? Oh wait you're going to resort to a One True Android Phone spiel aren't you? I can feel it in my bones.
 
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cerebus said:
What should I have done then to even get 4.2 on my current-gen Xperia V? Oh wait you're going to resort to a One True Android Phone spiel aren't you? I can feel it in my bones.
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Normally you plug into your pc via usb, then you load up Sony PC companion. Then you click "update".

Not that hard is it?
 
Crowley said:
If you had a S4 you would have had 4.2.2
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That's the answer I was waiting for. I just got the wrong phone. Well, I'm putting iOS7 onto my 2-year old specced 4S tonight so thankfully I don't have to deal with that worry anymore.
 
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