iPhone announcement from Apple on 4 October 2011

This whole thread made me LOL.

For the folk with iPhones who seem, based on some of the questions asked, to be a little new to the Apple universe... Yes, they will announce the new phone on the 4th and, yes IOS5 will be available through iTunes on the same day. Yes, 5 countries will get the phones first, as they always have and will. South Africa seems to have made it to the second tier release so the wait won't be too long after that... about a month or so.
Also, companies like Have2Have will get some here from the States right away and sell them at two or three times the price and yes, you will be a fool to pay their price rather than wait it out for a couple of weeks.

For the folk who don't have iPhones... Meh... What's the point? Fandroid on, nothing to see here.
 
The innovation and product renewal cycle is on fire! People can say what they want, but we live in an era of technological renewal! Our world is changing in front of our eyes!
 
greg0205 said:
This whole thread made me LOL.

For the folk with iPhones who seem, based on some of the questions asked, to be a little new to the Apple universe... Yes, they will announce the new phone on the 4th and, yes IOS5 will be available through iTunes on the same day. Yes, 5 countries will get the phones first, as they always have and will. South Africa seems to have made it to the second tier release so the wait won't be too long after that... about a month or so.
Also, companies like Have2Have will get some here from the States right away and sell them at two or three times the price and yes, you will be a fool to pay their price rather than wait it out for a couple of weeks.

For the folk who don't have iPhones... Meh... What's the point? Fandroid on, nothing to see here.
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Lol i wish they can just get it done and over with so that all the isheep can be passified,i'm also curious but i just got a galaxy s2 last week on the premise of:

1.What can the iphone5 really offer over the galaxy s2?it will probably pack an 8mp cam,dual-core cpu and a "new"os so its a bit meh in that department since the galaxy s can already do that(i can see some cloud computing but in sa with our high data costs its not really feasible)

2.It still wont offer Flash...sigh one of the biggest let downs of any iphone,probably caused by steve jobs arrogance rather than any actual performance advantages etc..

3.How do you beat the look of the iphone 4,seriously the phone is simply beautiful(i rate it as better than my galaxy s2 anyday!),I really cant see iphone 5 having such a sleek look!
 
Ooh ooh can I play...

My prediction 2 iPhone models in this round.

iPhone 5 thats smaller with iPad 2's CPU and some other tweaks
Iphone (4s)? thats about same size as 4 but made cheaper than current 4 to be an entry level phone.

But yeah, I guess we will have to wait and see, because things Apple is good at is
a. Keep a secret so much so that Gizmodo that released the lost iPhone 4's specs and pics is still been given the cold shoulder, and they lost all privileges and invites to any Apple event. (Not a good thing if your primary income was based on Apple fans)
b. Release old tech in such a way that people think its the second coming. Dont get me wrong Apple has great products I just dont like the Jail they want me to live in.
 
falcon786 said:
3.How do you beat the look of the iphone 4,seriously the phone is simply beautiful(i rate it as better than my galaxy s2 anyday!),I really cant see iphone 5 having such a sleek look!
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The iphones do look great. Though, just about every Tom, Dick and Harry has a phone cover to protect it from scratches. So you never get to see the beauty! I don't see the point of getting a phone just because it looks good if you're going to use an ugly cover 24/7.
 
Will definitely get one for the wife so that she can get over Blackberry.
 
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SaiyanZ said:
The iphones do look great. Though, just about every Tom, Dick and Harry has a phone cover to protect it from scratches. So you never get to see the beauty! I don't see the point of getting a phone just because it looks good if you're going to use an ugly cover 24/7.
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i just lol at those people,my wife does the same to her phones haha.Personally i even hate screen protectors,the day i get a phone i immediately use it as intended NAKED :D and a few months later it still looks great...just dont put it in a pocket with keys/coins/stuff that can scratch it.
 
SaiyanZ said:
Feel sorry for the apple users. Their purchases drop in value in a few months due to new revisions and releases whilst the hardware used is still at least 6 months behind others like Samsung and HTC.
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Not as fast as the drop in value of the PC system you have in your signature, lol you little troll.
 
actually if the product is technology orientated (be it a phone, pc or wtf ever), their values drop fast...
 
R13... said:
Behold! The thread is populated with [-]penis[/-] iPhone envy android fanbois (as usual).
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Sad isn't it.

The so called "renderings" I've seen floating around. It's looks to be a step backwards. Design similar to what the original iPhone looked like but tapering off towards the end, with edge to edge screen (still same size screen) I'm hoping it's not true because it's going to have to have some seriously new tech packed into it for me to become a fan of the new version.

If anything they'd better stick with metal case or at least have some metal in case design. They might have burnt their fingers with iPhone 4 and metal case signal issue (not me) but I don't think they should make same mistake going from iPhone to iPhone 3G. People loved the metal in original iPhone was a bad move to go plastic on 3G.

We'll see. I have two upgrades just eager for some Apple loving.
 
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The Rat said:
Has rather little to do with being droid fanbois and everything to do with overbearing pretentiousness and subservience to a growing cult in many cases.
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Idiotic. Subservience to a growing cult? Such unadulterated crap.

Do people actually believe this crap?
 
icyrus said:
Idiotic. Subservience to a growing cult? Such unadulterated crap.

Do people actually believe this crap?
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You clearly have a problem reading.

http://www.livescience.com/6391-apple-obsession-science-ipad-fanaticism.html

Deny the research if you must LOL....

Brand communities also involve rituals and traditions, or some type of shared culture. Harley riders have their group rides; Apple users have store openings or a new product release. As was evident with the iPad, loyalists chose to camp out despite the fact that, if they simply wanted the product, they could have ordered it online.

Finally, members feel an obligation to each other, and help each other out — like a Harley rider who stops on the side of the road to help another Harley rider, Muniz said.

"There's probably a belief that 'This person is like me, at some level they get it,'" Muniz said. With Apple users, "there might be an assumption that there are shared values on a whole range of things, but certainly on computing," he said.
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They then go on to say

Fan, fanatic

Within these communities, all members seem to have shared characteristics that denote them as fans.

Thorne and his colleagues have identified four: They have a personal interested in the topic or product; they do things to show that they're fans (like wearing a T-shirt); they feel the need to associate with others that share their interests; and they feel the need to find out more about the object of their fanaticism.

Such fanaticism, defined as excessive devotion or enthusiasm, can have components of addiction or obsession. But research has also shown it doesn't usually cause harm to the consumer or to others.

Not all fanatics are created equal, and Thorne has found there are generally four flavors of fandom:
• Dilettante — Casual involvement. To take a baseball example, if the game is on, you'll watch it, but won't go out of your way to do so.
• Dedicated — If the game is on, you make a point to be home, and you might make your own fantasy baseball league.
• Devoted — You might fly out to see your favorite team play around the county, and have a shrine of memorabilia in your home.
• Dysfunctional — A level that's disruptive to the individual or society. (Think planning one's wedding around baseball season.)

"At all three of [the first] levels, your family and society may view you as eccentric, but you're not viewed as harmful or dangerous," Thorne said.

Generally, if there's nothing new to continue one's interest in a "brand," most fans will go back to the casual level.

However, Apple fans never want for such stimulation.

"That's one of the reasons Apple has such a devoted fandom, is because there's always talk about what's the next product Apple's going to come out with," Thorne said.
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Finally

Is Apple a cult?

Some market researchers have gone so far as to dub Apple fans a "brand cult," a group with some cult-like attributes.

Here's why: Some fans have retold and romanticized Apple's history, giving a "legend" quality to the company and its founders. In 2005, Belk and his colleges found evidence for several myths within the Apple community, including a "creation myth" involving the creation of one of the first computers in Apple founder and CEO Steve Jobs's garage, a"heroic myth" surrounding the founders, and a "satanic component" involving the company's rivals, portraying them almost like the Antichrist.

"I think that if ever there is a brand cult, Apple deserves it, they come close to religious fanaticism on the part of enthusiastic followers," Belk said.

He points to some Apple enthusiasts who went out and bought iPads despite complaining early on that the iPad didn't offer much new, saying it was essentially a big iPod touch.

"That sort of loyalty and devotion would suggest that there's something more than an objective appraisal going on, and it's the same sort of faith and loyalty that we see in religions oftentimes," he said.

However, some feel "cult" is too strong a label to throw around when discussing brand communities, since it conjures thoughts of conflict surrounding other cult groups, such as religious cults. "That's kind of heavy baggage, it's an emotionally charged word," Muniz said.

It's a lifestyle

Whether or not Apple fans are cult-like, there is no doubt that a strong sense of devotion to the brand is there. At the core of the devotion could be "a sense of self." The brand taps into what's truly important to people — it's about more than just the technological bells and whistles, it's a lifestyle, experts say.

"Apple I think has done a good job of having its brandimage connect to the core values and core lifestyle aspects of people," said Kahle, of the University of Oregon.

He points to the famous "1984" Macintosh Super Bowl ad, which alluded to George Orwell's book by the same name. In the ad, people were mindlessly watching a screen, meant to symbolize Big Brother, or conformity. A woman comes in and throws a hammer at the screen, blowing it up.

"The implication is, if you don't want a world like '1984,' you should identify with Apple," Kahle said. "Apple created an image as being a brand that's associated with independence and freedom, that the kind of tyranny of technology that's too complicated for people to use, that's something Apple was against. And Apple would create freedom or independence for you through technology, as opposed to making you a slave to technology."

Apple fans are also expressing a certain mindset.

"I would really consider people who use it [as] open-minded to technology, and liberal and everything," said Florian Brunbauer, an Apple user who designs and sells iPhone and iPad apps, and who stood in line the day the iPad was released. "I think it's a way to express that too."
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Yes, so you see I am not merely making **** up. Allot of these people border on fanaticism. I suggest giving Leander Khaney's "The Cult Of Mac" a read which also deals with the topic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cult_of_Mac
 
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The Rat said:
You clearly have a problem reading.

http://www.livescience.com/6391-apple-obsession-science-ipad-fanaticism.html

Deny the research if you must LOL....
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What research? Please point out some research in that article.

Apple users have store openings or a new product release. As was evident with the iPad, loyalists chose to camp out despite the fact that, if they simply wanted the product, they could have ordered it online.
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If this is the level of discourse you would use a reference there is no hope for rational discussion. During the release of the iPad the online backorders ran over 4 weeks or more so anyone who wanted one in a timely manner had no choice but to queue.

The Rat said:
Yes, so you see I am not merely making **** up.
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You are quoting opinion pieces as if they were fact. Nevermind the fact that the linked pieces in no way support either of your claims of "overbearing pretentiousness" or "subservience to a growing cult".

The Rat said:
Allot of these people border on fanaticism.
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Allot? How many? Got any percentages for me? Where do your numbers come from?

The Rat said:
I suggest giving Leander Khaney's "The Cult Of Mac" a read which also deals with the topic.
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Have you actually read the book?
 
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