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ok i fixed it
here was what was wrong in case anyone else ever has the same problem:
if you view the ipod as a disk and explore it, enable "view hidden files" or whatever in windows. iPod_Control folder appears. go into it and then into the iTunes subfolder. i saw two files, one named iTunesDB which was ~3kb and one named iTunesDB.old which was like 6.7mb
<me> hmmm....
deleted iTunesDB and renamed iTunesDB.old to iTunesDB and it was fixed
I have no idea how these things work and I cannot even move this wheel thing in the front and when i used itunes a few years ago it was a nightmare so i uses winamp as it was easier.
thanks for the info and link i will look now and see if i can fix it. I thought of copying everything i see into a file on my pc then back to the ipod.
I don't know what they use but I only use winamp as it was easier for me to use but as I said earlier I can see the songs on the ipod in winamp but the actually machine shows nothing.