Iraq war officially a Crusade

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ABC News is reporting that U.S. military weapons are inscribed with secret 'Jesus' Bible codes:

Coded references to New Testament Bible passages about Jesus Christ are inscribed on high-powered rifle sights provided to the United States military by a Michigan company, an ABC News investigation has found.

The sights are used by U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the training of Iraqi and Afghan soldiers. The maker of the sights, Trijicon, has a $660 million multi-year contract to provide up to 800,000 sights to the Marine Corps, and additional contracts to provide sights to the U.S. Army ...

One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."

Other references include citations from the books of Revelation, Matthew and John dealing with Jesus as "the light of the world." John 8:12, referred to on the gun sights as JN8:12, reads, "Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

Trijicon confirmed to ABCNews.com that it adds the biblical codes to the sights sold to the U.S. military. Tom Munson, director of sales and marketing for Trijicon, which is based in Wixom, Michigan, said the inscriptions "have always been there" and said there was nothing wrong or illegal with adding them. Munson said the issue was being raised by a group that is "not Christian."The company's vision is described on its Web site: "Guided by our values, we endeavor to have our products used wherever precision aiming solutions are required to protect individual freedom." ...

A photo on a Department of Defense Web site shows Iraqi soldiers being trained by U.S. troops with a rifle equipped with the bible-coded sights.
"It's wrong, it violates the Constitution, it violates a number of federal laws," said Michael "Mikey" Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an advocacy group that seeks to preserve the separation of church and state in the military.

"It allows the Mujahedeen, the Taliban, al Qaeda and the insurrectionists and jihadists to claim they're being shot by Jesus rifles," he said.

Weinstein, an attorney and former Air Force officer, said many members of his group who currently serve in the military have complained about the markings on the sights. He also claims they've told him that commanders have referred to weapons with the sights as "spiritually transformed firearm of Jesus Christ."

He said coded biblical inscriptions play into the hands of "those who are calling this a Crusade."

Now, an official Pentagon spokesman is making it clear that the U.S. military endorses the crusade. As Raw Story notes:

A Pentagon spokesman says there is nothing wrong or illegal with the armed forces using rifle sights inscribed with references to biblical passages.

Air Force Maj. John Redfield, a spokesman for US Central Command, said the sights from Michigan-based Trijicon -- which are now the target of controversy following news reports earlier this week -- "don't violate the [military] ban on proselytizing because there's no effort to distribute the equipment beyond the US troops who use them," the Associated Press reports.

"This situation is not unlike the situation with US currency," Maj. Redfield said. "Are we going to stop using money because the bills have 'In God We Trust' on them? As long as the sights meet the combat needs of troops, they'll continue to be used."

Meanwhile, a lawyer and former training officer for the US Army Reserves says that any attempt by the US government to cancel its contracts with an arms supplier that enscribes biblical references on its rifle sights would be "discrimination."
 
Yes... its an Official Official[TM] Crusade. Brought to you by the people who decide on everything thats official. This is an official statement.

Dont forget the lizard people!
 
ROFL tinfoil hat stupidity hits new lows.

How on earth do you get from inscriptions on a few rifles to a crusade in Iraq. Moron maths 2+2=5 :wtf:

Still it's not a good idea to have those inscriptions because there are people dumb enough to think it does mean a "crusade"
 
Shouldn't that be "tinfoil turban" or "tinfoil head rag" ?

ROFL tinfoil hat stupidity hits new lows.

How on earth do you get from inscriptions on a few rifles to a crusade in Iraq. Moron maths 2+2=5 :wtf:

Still it's not a good idea to have those inscriptions because there are people dumb enough to think it does mean a "crusade"

Shouldn't that be "tinfoil turban" or "tinfoil head rag" ?

The OP's nose is right out of joint with the "big evil infidel empire" getting some good press for a change due to their sterling efforts to help Haitians with disaster relief.
 
I don't believe it is a crusade we all know it is about oil and protecting the dollar but why did they inscribe some weapons i wonder?
 
sigh got me all excited here. i thought fallout real life was here....
 
Would they prefer to be shot with guns with sights that dont have these markings on them? :confused:
 
Bwana i think the point is that it looks like the weapons are being used in the name of GOD which means it looks like the US are killing in the name of religion, something they deny and accuse others of doing.
 
Bwana i think the point is that it looks like the weapons are being used in the name of GOD which means it looks like the US are killing in the name of religion, something they deny and accuse others of doing.

strange; doesn't the us always saying they are correcting the great evil in teh world ?

/gets foil
/gets books
 
Bwana i think the point is that it looks like the weapons are being used in the name of GOD which means it looks like the US are killing in the name of religion, something they deny and accuse others of doing.
For that to be true the manufacturer would have had to disclose what they were doing from the beginning and there's no evidence they did.

And you know what - if it psyches out the enemy even just a little bit I say go for it.
 
Well if they are killing in the name of their GOD then the tinfoil brigade are not wrong and the US are just as bad as extremists killing in the name of their GOD.

So basically the US are no longer the good guys which i have never thought they are, just another group of religious nuts killing in the name of their GOD.
 
And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, 'O Lord, bless this Thy hand grenade that, with it, Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits in Thy mercy.'
 
Well if they are killing in the name of their GOD then the tinfoil brigade are not wrong and the US are just as bad as extremists killing in the name of their GOD.

So basically the US are no longer the good guys which i have never thought they are, just another group of religious nuts killing in the name of their GOD.
Who is they? Is there any indication that the Pentagon endorsed this?
 
So basically the US are no longer the good guys which i have never thought they are, just another group of religious nuts killing in the name of their GOD.

Killing islamists who's life consists of devising ways to wipe out infidels like us. I don't have a problem with that :-) The odd civilian always gets killed in war which sucks but they are still sparing more innocent lives. This doesn't change the fact that the arrogant Americans are after oil, but if they can wipe out al Qaeda and islamist terrorists in the process then so be it.
 
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