Iraq war officially a Crusade

Aqua_lung said:
Scopes with Jesus verses, translated Bibles distributed in Afghanistan by some soldiers, Bush and Rumsfeld using Bible quotes for their Iraq war room briefings, Bush telling Chirac Iraq is a fight between Gog and Magog...
See these are just coincidences lol, there is no Crusade.
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Seriously is that all you've got. Of course you can explain why there's thousands of Muslims in the U.S military and the other coalition forces.

Seems you've never heard of Major Nidal Hasan :erm:
 
JHatman said:
Yes yes, decline of the Roman empire and revolts within their army leading to it becoming almost non existent by the time. I've read the books. You know, 911 hasn't been that much of a blip considering the consequences that followed. And yet another screw up by the FB Aye and we're now being scanned neked at airports. 911 too was a gradual process.
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We can agree to disagree. In the grand scheme of things - 9/11 was a blip. Maybe it is was the start of the decline of America (hope not!) but a blip it was.
 
http://www.news24.com/Content/World...d97/21-01-2010-10-04/Jesus_scopes_spark_anger

Washington - Muslim groups reacted angrily on Wednesday after it emerged that the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan were using rifle sights inscribed with coded Biblical references.

The company producing the sights, which are also used to train Afghan and Iraqi soldiers under contracts with the US Army and the Marine Corps, said it has inscribed references to the New Testament on the metal casings for over two decades.

The British Ministry of Defence meanwhile announced it had placed an order for 400 of the gunsights with Trijicon but added it had not been aware of the significance of the inscriptions, in a decision criticised by the opposition Liberal Democrat party.

The Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC) called on US Defence Secretary Robert Gates to immediately withdraw from combat use equipment found to have inscriptions of Biblical references after it emerged that Trijicon has contracts to supply over 800 000 of the sights to the US military.

The Pentagon sought to defuse the brewing controversy, saying it was "disturbed" by the reports.

"If determined to be true, this is clearly inappropriate and we are looking into possible remedies," Commander Darryn James, a Pentagon spokesperson, told AFP.

The codes were used as "part of our faith and our belief in service to our country", Trijicon said
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http://www.trijicon.com/about.cfm

• Morality
We believe that America is great when its people are good. This goodness has been based on biblical standards throughout our history and we will strive to follow those morals.
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Muslim groups reacted angrily on Wednesday after it emerged that the US military in Iraq and Afghanistan were using rifle sights inscribed with coded Biblical references.
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Who are these groups and why are they outraged about this? Did they express "outrage" when extremists blow people up in Iraq or Major Hasan went on the rampage.

Like I said it's a storm in a tea cup. Trying to create controversy where there is none. The extremists no doubt appreciate it.
 
Alan, I'd love to see the expression on your face when you find a bullet casing enscribed with "Allah!", just because some of your fellow citizens shot down an Iranian passenger jet.

No doubt you'd be making a storm in a teacup about that too. Expressing great "outrage"!

Because of the many smart blighters like (A _ _ N) and (F _ _ _ K _ E), in ten years time, Islamophobia will be as illegal as racism or, god forbid, anti semitism.

And you won't even be allowed to express your "outrage" anymore.
 
I also wish to lodge an objection!

I object when muslim murdering scumbags scream allah akbar when they about to blow themselves and any poor shmuck they can into a million pieces.

I think from now, they must sing its raining men and refrain from any religious mumblings!:whistle:
 
Alan said:
Who are these groups and why are they outraged about this? Did they express "outrage" when extremists blow people up in Iraq or Major Hasan went on the rampage.

Like I said it's a storm in a tea cup. Trying to create controversy where there is none. The extremists no doubt appreciate it.
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Agreed.

Its also very rare to read about Muslims outraged at any attacks by terrorists against the west.
 
Arbiter said:
Alan, I'd love to see the expression on your face when you find a bullet casing enscribed with "Allah!", just because some of your fellow citizens shot down an Iranian passenger jet.

No doubt you'd be making a storm in a teacup about that too. Expressing great "outrage"!

Because of the many smart blighters like (A _ _ N) and (F _ _ _ K _ E), in ten years time, Islamophobia will be as illegal as racism or, god forbid, anti semitism.

And you won't even be allowed to express your "outrage" anymore.
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I would hope in 10 years time more people will be moving away from the various religions.
 
za1 said:
I also wish to lodge an objection!

I object when muslim murdering scumbags scream allah akbar when they about to blow themselves and any poor shmuck they can into a million pieces.

I think from now, they must sing its raining men and refrain from any religious mumblings!:whistle:
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If they sang that song it might put their chances of meeting with the 72 virgins in afterlife in danger...
 
Trijicon, said the practice of including the references was started nearly 30 years previously by the company's founder, devout Christian Glyn Bindon, who died in a 2003 plane crash.
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Looks like his personal Jesus really appreciated his efforts.


smokey said:
Wow that is ignorant. Ofcourse they were far more technologically advanced than the dark age Christians but what do you expect when the rampaging hordes destroy everything that you have. You do know that Rome was sacked and that caused the Dark Ages - not belief in a higher power.

Places that did not fall into scientific idiocy (that were Christian at the time) include Constantinople and Alexandria...

Damn son, go read a book before you spout off the biggest loaf of tripe imaginable...
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I'm sure Galileo would agree with you.

DigitalSoldier said:
not talking about this thread specifically but in general on the forum.
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Without direct quotes I'm afraid that you're imagining things.

I'm not Atheist though, just a sceptic, I don't claim there is no God or that there is.
 
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I wonder if any of the troops in Haiti have these inscriptions on their sights.


So the crusdae spreads:erm:
 
JHatman said:
Most if not all the weapons, armour, rockets and bullets being used by American forces in Iraq and Afghanistan are funded by tax paying Dollars.

The Dollar has "In God We Trust" written all over it.

Perhaps every US citizen, soldier or not, should take that into consideration before being nit picky about a gun scope.

Its like complaining to your neighbour that his parrot makes too much noise when you yourself run a panelbeating business from your garage. You both have a case, but collectively you're part of a much bigger problem thats just pissing all your neighbours off a lot.
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The "God" on the dollar is the Freemason god, the founding fathers were mostly freemasons and symbols on the dollars are common freemason symbols.

Pyramid and all seeing eye? lol there is nothing Christian about that.
 
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