Is everybody so "complex"?

[googoodoll]

Try it. Do one thing at a time, think of one thing at a time, concentrate on one thing at a time.

I understand where you're coming from but disagree that people have problems because they want them.
Some do - and I told nuke myself that he has an attention problem - but sometimes its a bit more complicated.

 

[Vegeta]

I understand where you're coming from but disagree that people have problems because they want them.
Some do - and I told nuke myself that he has an attention problem - but sometimes its a bit more complicated.

No sure but obviously excluding people with a real medical/psychological condition that would be like saying someone has malaria because he wants malaria.

 

[DerpiesFreud]

nukefission- what is the purpose of trying to rid yourself of your "delusions"? And what makes them "delusions"?

They`re delusions because they`re something I believe even though there`s overwhelming evidence otherwise


People on mybb want to harvest information about me(my solution : so what?)

the world will end if my identity is discovered(hence why I want to meet someone)

people I know are manipulating and just using me(again so what? and they`re quite nice people in fact)

Everybody is lying(it could be true,but I cant operate on such data,hence I`l treat it as the truth)

I`m smarter than everyone else(this is obviously false,but I cant help but feeling "superior")

I`m not attractive by most standards(probably false but the occasional jab by people reinforces this)

people are idiots(false since I dont know them well enough to analyze their mental state)

Being "Normal" is a relative term, even when looking from a psychological view.

Attempt to look at the bright side off things, well that's what i am trying at least. If you are a complex person...it is just what you are.

I have a friend that's always into complex people, but do not understand why they have such complex issues.

It is simple, see what i did there ... simple people = simple issues
complex people = complex issues

Hmm perhaps

You think you've got problems: http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...(6)-kidnapped-eyes-stolen-by-organ-trafficker

yep there's always someone with worse problems!

Agreed,but uuh am I supposed to feel empathy or something?

Wish it was that easy

Yeah

Try it. Do one thing at a time, think of one thing at a time, concentrate on one thing at a time.

this works,I`m trying to get rid of my delusions...next I`l work on confidence & self esteem

Side note,how to stop thinking?

 

[Vegeta]

this works,I`m trying to get rid of my delusions...next I`l work on confidence & self esteem
Side note,how to stop thinking?

I think that's very important! You have to stop thinking! And when I say stop thinking I don't mean stop breathing or blinking your eyes what I mean is start finding positive things that consume you more than the negative things. So basically the old saying of an idle mind being the devil's playground is the problem. Because negative things consume a person but positive things are merely a distraction.

Here's a good example I know someone who's obsessed with mountain biking, it consumes his every waking moment he spends everyday Googling mountain biking and accessories. He rides his bike to work and then he rides it some more.
He's always in a good mood because he's consumed by a fun thing he likes to do. I wouldn't say he's addicted to it because he will side line it for work or other things but i'm sure its always at the back of his mind.

Now its an incredibly simple example and people can have multiple things they like or almost obsess about but do you think someone like that has time to think about how he was bullied as a child? Nope he's too busy working out what heart rate or pedal revolutions he has to hit over what distance to reach his goals.

 

[Maverick Jester]

They`re delusions because they`re something I believe even though there`s overwhelming evidence otherwise

People on mybb want to harvest information about me(my solution : so what?)

the world will end if my identity is discovered(hence why I want to meet someone)

people I know are manipulating and just using me(again so what? and they`re quite nice people in fact)

Everybody is lying(it could be true,but I cant operate on such data,hence I`l treat it as the truth)

I`m smarter than everyone else(this is obviously false,but I cant help but feeling "superior")

I`m not attractive by most standards(probably false but the occasional jab by people reinforces this)

people are idiots(false since I dont know them well enough to analyze their mental state)

You are measuring the world in absolutes. Not everything can be measured as either true or false. But I understand that this is what you are struggling with...

 

[Sherbang]

I think that's very important! You have to stop thinking! And when I say stop thinking I don't mean stop breathing or blinking your eyes what I mean is start finding positive things that consume you more than the negative things. So basically the old saying of an idle mind being the devil's playground is the problem. Because negative things consume a person but positive things are merely a distraction.

Here's a good example I know someone who's obsessed with mountain biking, it consumes his every waking moment he spends everyday Googling mountain biking and accessories. He rides his bike to work and then he rides it some more.
He's always in a good mood because he's consumed by a fun thing he likes to do. I wouldn't say he's addicted to it because he will side line it for work or other things but i'm sure its always at the back of his mind.

Now its an incredibly simple example and people can have multiple things they like or almost obsess about but do you think someone like that has time to think about how he was bullied as a child? Nope he's too busy working out what heart rate or pedal revolutions he has to hit over what distance to reach his goals.

You're talking about escapism - mental diversion by means of entertainment or recreation, as an "escape" from the perceived unpleasant or banal aspects of daily life.

Some people think escapism robs us of psychological maturity and wisdom - instead of dealing with issues and growing psychologically people prefer to distract themselves with entertainment, sport, drugs, etc - 'bury your head in the sand' type of thing.

 

[Vegeta]

I agree with you joelus. Escapism can lead to not dealing with issues. But I didn't mean to say complete obsession its more of surrounding yourself with positive things to help you deal with the negative things rather than escaping from all negative by getting lost in this escape.

 

[DerpiesFreud]

I understand where you're coming from but disagree that people have problems because they want them.
Some do - and I told nuke myself that he has an attention problem - but sometimes its a bit more complicated.

I was "diagnosed" with ADD growing up...could be the psych making a quick buck,but my family is like the opposite of hypochondriacs so I dunno,My mind is also all over the place,hence "how can I stop thinking?"

You're talking about escapism - mental diversion by means of entertainment or recreation, as an "escape" from the perceived unpleasant or banal aspects of daily life.

Some people think escapism robs us of psychological maturity and wisdom - instead of dealing with issues and growing psychologically people prefer to distract themselves with entertainment, sport, drugs, etc - 'bury your head in the sand' type of thing.

this is pretty much me,I denied having issues till my night of alcohol when everything came pouring out

 

[googoodoll]

,My mind is also all over the place,hence "how can I stop thinking?"

I have the same problem

I think you are slightly insane but not as much as you think.
Also you seem to hang around with the wrong people

And what if you are the normal one and everyone else is crazy...?

 

[DerpiesFreud]

I have the same problem

I think you are slightly insane but not as much as you think.
Also you seem to hang around with the wrong people

And what if you are the normal one and everyone else is crazy...?

well the people around me reinforce my possible delusion of insanity,but I agree I may be slightly insane.

well it was my first(and last) time drinking so I had 3 glasses of vodka/brandy...that escalated quickly
but it helped me realize that stuff wasn`t okay,and I needed to fix it before I went supercritical(me being a nuclear reactor and all)

doubt it....I`ve been given the craziest person award multiple times in my life so far :erm:
maybe I`m not very insane but It would be fair to say I`m pretty eccentric

 

[Vegeta]

Do you wear black leather trench coats with minimal clothing underneath? If you do then you don't need someone to tell you that you're... different

 

[DerpiesFreud]

Do you wear black leather trench coats with minimal clothing underneath? If you do then you don't need someone to tell you that you're... different

Maybe....I do wear something similar

 

[Nanfeishen]

People overthink things too much, obsess about trivial matters too much, over analyse too much and tend to think they need to "fit in" to some box, or some labeled social criteria/condition.
You always hearing about "I am this ..." or "I have this ..." blah ,blah, blah.
There is no definition of normal in life, there are hundreds of "conditions" with all sorts of "symptoms" that almost guarantee that you will find, recognise or see some of them in yourself.
We all have a past of some sort or other, we have all had experiences we can label positive, negative or neutral.
What defines us is how we deal with these experiences, not so much when they are occuring but most importantly after they have occured.
How we deal with out respective pasts is what creates the "U" in you.
Coming to terms with what you cannot undo is very easy however some people just cannot move beyond that experience enough to see it as anything else.
I.E. i am adopted, i was about 3 months old at the time and i found out just after my father passed away at age 11, and then i got shipped off to boarding school for a number of years.
For a while, I thought i suffered with abandonment issues ,( "my real mother didnt want me etc etc, my father died on me, and my new mother just wanted to get rid of me etc, etc." ), until i accepted what occured was unchangeable.

a: people die, family and friends all eventually pass on to the next realm it is inevitable, nobody can change that fact.
b: my biological mother was not able to provide for me as well as she would have like to, and therefore put me up for adoption - Confirmed after i met her. Nothing i can do to alter that fact, and I have had a good life with my adoptive family, in fact probabily better than i would have had.
c: my adoptive mother had to go back to work and could not afford after school care , so boarding school ensured i was cared for, fed and schooled properly.

The abandonment issues dissolved once i understood the logic behind each occurence.

The only illogical thing one really ever faces is death.
I served in the SADF, i lost some friends during and after, and in a war situation death is acceptable , it is to be expected, and yet it doesnt always happen on the battlefield, it can happen years later far from it, as an indirect result of it.
Disease claims some, we cannot change that as well as old age claiming others.
Accidents occur, that is also some thing one accepts , wrong place, wrong time, it happens, it cannot be undone.
Some people take their own lives because they simply dont have the strength to carry on. Sad but true.
And finally ,sometimes people are simply killed by somebody else for what seems no reason what so ever, it happens.

Change what you can when you get a chance to, learn to let go of what you cannot undo or change.

And when everything gets you down , go read "Whinnie the Pooh"

 

[googoodoll]

Maybe....I do wear something similar

I think I know you.......

 

[Devill]

I`m in the process of trying to get rid of my delusions...

Common stuff we all know
Everybody is unique

We all differ in small ways from someone else. Herd mentality is there because as much as everyone want's to be unique, the sad fact is very few people are truly unique.

 

[DerpiesFreud]

I think I know you.......

You do? :erm:
It would be really interesting if you actually did

We all differ in small ways from someone else. Herd mentality is there because as much as everyone want's to be unique, the sad fact is very few people are truly unique.

So you have the same missing lower left missing tooth as me?
by unique I mean our operating variables are not the same,I`m sure you dont look exactly like me or think exactly like me

Change what you can when you get a chance to, learn to let go of what you cannot undo or change.

And when everything gets you down , go read "Whinnie the Pooh"

Glad you sorted that out,and winnie the pooh is awesome!

 

[luxe]

Without judging you as previous people have, I SERIOUSLY think that you need to have these discussions with a trained professional instead of armchair psychiatrists with access to webmd.com.

You're in over your head here, and although I have very little experience with people with major disorders, the questions you are struggling with are serious ones that will dictate the choices you make for the rest of your life.

Do yourself a favour and see a doctor.

 

[DerpiesFreud]

Without judging you as previous people have, I SERIOUSLY think that you need to have these discussions with a trained professional instead of armchair psychiatrists with access to webmd.com.

You're in over your head here, and although I have very little experience with people with major disorders, the questions you are struggling with are serious ones that will dictate the choices you make for the rest of your life.

Do yourself a favour and see a doctor.

I agree,I should seek professional help....the other day I walked past the mental health clinic,almost went in and got an appointment.

Though I feel more at peace now for some strange reason,I know I have unresolved issues,I know it negatively affects my life,I`ve simply accepted it.
I`ve always wondered if I should see a doctor,maybe I`l just get a 'check up' and go from there

 

[DerpiesFreud]

defok....double post

 

[systemofpurplelimpminion]

Try it. Do one thing at a time, think of one thing at a time, concentrate on one thing at a time.

You got a point though, a lot of things come down to decisions. Altough it is very difficult