IT professionals still in demand

Oh sure, the companies below in my building are on 5 hours a day.
 
Pay IT and Engineering professionals more and they won't leave SA.
 
What percentage of those IT/Engineering jobs are AA only? I would be interested to know, as that would point to a general demand, or not.
 
What percentage of those IT/Engineering jobs are AA only? I would be interested to know, as that would point to a general demand, or not.

With such a small hiring pool, few companies can afford to make AA only posts in that area.
 
What percentage of those IT/Engineering jobs are AA only? I would be interested to know, as that would point to a general demand, or not.

A search for all AA IT positions on Careerjunction returned 199 jobs whereas a search for all non AA positions returned
700 jobs. So clearly AA cannot be a valid reason for people not finding employment in this industry but just a convenient scapegoat.
 
A search for all AA IT positions on Careerjunction returned 199 jobs whereas a search for all non AA positions returned
700 jobs. So clearly AA cannot be a valid reason for people not finding employment in this industry but just a convenient scapegoat.


Just because a job isn't listed as AA doesn't mean its not a major criterion.
 
Just because a job isn't listed as AA doesn't mean its not a major criterion.

Any have the proper definition of AA? Like what criteria make you someone eligible to fill AA Quota?
 
Any have the proper definition of AA? Like what criteria make you someone eligible to fill AA Quota?

Basically if you're born an SA citizen or if you're a citizen who naturalised before 27/04/1994 and you're not a non-disabled white male you're in. ;) Obviously there's a hierarchy with black (African) females at the top and white females at the bottom.
 
Just because a job isn't listed as AA doesn't mean its not a major criterion.
No, recruiters explicitly state if a position is AA as shown on my previous post's links. Why would they want to go through the effort of assessing CV's from white people if the position is AA?
 
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No, recruiters explicitly state if a position is AA as shown on my previous post's links. Why would they want to go through the effort of assessing CV's from white people if the position is AA?

I know of people that had been to more than interview with a company, only to find out that it is actually AA only.
 
A search for all AA IT positions on Careerjunction returned 199 jobs whereas a search for all non AA positions returned
700 jobs. So clearly AA cannot be a valid reason for people not finding employment in this industry but just a convenient scapegoat.

I dunno about other universities & tech but if you went to uct and cape tech(but then as i say cpt has always been way ahead from bottom up) you'd know that there is little need for AA in engineering! The majority of students are non-white and in some instances the % african foreign students in masters up is pretty high % too. Then combo this with scarce skills visa + DoL being a bit more lenient on the sector giving lots of concession and you have to question the continuous rants on this forum. (bottom up that is, top down is an entirely different story and eng people take longer to change as exp is key).

When organisations go for a heavy AA recruit drive, check out their current employee's (top down remember % weight for top is more) and you're likely find that they are heavily unbalanced(hence rec drive, and usually they go all out so the numbers look better) but even so if a suitable person can't be found the position -has- to filled. I think this past year may have been 1st time in 15yrs that positions are becoming very scarce for grads, competition is rife and positions didn't need to be filled and were reduced.

There is a problem with pr eng though but its not that there aren't candidates, its just that the system loses eng graduates to other industries with attractive packages + they need to improve their integration.
 
I know of people that had been to more than interview with a company, only to find out that it is actually AA only.
Thats bull .It was a polite way of saying they didnt make the cut
 
Thats bull .It was a polite way of saying they didnt make the cut
Utter bull indeed, agreed.


The below passage refers to recruitment statistics for Qualified Professionals in South Africa, from the Commission for Employment Equity report.
Whites continue to dominate in terms of representation, recruitment and promotion at this level.
Males also appear to have an all-round domination at this level. More could be done for African and
Coloured females at this level as it would serve as a feeder to increase their representation at the
Senior and Top Management levels.

The report showed that white men represented 61% of top management, enjoyed 48% of all recruitment and made up 45% of all employees promoted to this level.

At the top management level black men represented 10%, enjoyed 13% of all recruitment and made up 13% of all employees promoted to this level.

In this category, Indian men represented 5% and coloured men 4%, while white women represented 12%, black women just less than 4%, and Indian and coloured women each just more than 1%.

For the first time the study also looked at how top management in the government sector compared with the private sector.

In government 61% were black, 12% coloured, 5% Indian, 21% white and under 1% foreigners.

In the private sector white people had the highest representation with 74%, followed by black people with 13%, Indians with just less than 6%, coloureds with 5% and foreigners accounting for about 3%.

Manyi said generally speaking government was closer to achieving the proportional economical active race representation targets.

"Government is trampling the private sector at every turn," he said, adding, however, that much still needed to be done.

Representation of people with disabilities at all levels and in both private and public sectors dropped from 1% over the previous years to 0,7%.

Manyi said in recruitment and promotions the trend showed that white people were generally favoured.

"The job market is pro-white people ... we don't have the facts to back up the story that employment equity is anti-white."
Link
 
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you have to question the continuous rants on this forum.

No you don't, it is obvious. People suck at what they do, and blame AA for it not being easy to get a job.
 
AA is a convenient scapegoat for greedy white South Africans who somehow feel that other races have a lesser potential in any sector. ie. if you are not white, you are not as clever as I am. But off coarse we cant say that because its racist. So we just blame the goverment.
I am a healthy white South African guy. I have a good job with a decent salary. How did I get here you might ask. I work my ass off and tried and tried again till I succeeded. You should stop looking for things to change in this country! This I wont change if you dont change first attitude is a crap mentality. Get off your behind and do it for yourself!
 
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