Ivy says judge erred

ike said:
lawyers appeal, dont they? i mean, it guarantees u more revenue, and u take it 2 another court if 1 court doesnt like ur story. then u appeal some more. i just wish i was representing gov on any of their _many many_ cases.:p
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That's a good point. Did anyone expect the lawyers NOT to appeal? It's just more money for them.

But saying that, Ivy should have shown some leadership skills and respected the court's findings. It seems to me that she made this personal.
 
We should tell Julius Malemma that Ivy is against Zuma and she's plotting his downfall along with the downfall of the ANCYL. See how long she lives then. :)
 
EtienneK said:
That's a good point. Did anyone expect the lawyers NOT to appeal? It's just more money for them.

But saying that, Ivy should have shown some leadership skills and respected the court's findings. It seems to me that she made this personal.
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And therein lies the problem. She is not a capable leader.
 
EtienneK said:
That's a good point. Did anyone expect the lawyers NOT to appeal? It's just more money for them.

But saying that, Ivy should have shown some leadership skills and respected the court's findings. It seems to me that she made this personal.
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Of course she made it personal! The judge basically said the woman made a serious mistake. Have you tried telling a woman that she's wrong? ;)
 
EtienneK said:
That's a good point. Did anyone expect the lawyers NOT to appeal? It's just more money for them.

But saying that, Ivy should have shown some leadership skills and respected the court's findings. It seems to me that she made this personal.
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in many of these cases, its not even about the issue at hand, its about egos. not appealing means she admits she "erred." but also, appealing 2 her doesnt come at a cost, like - for example - Altech, since altech is shareholders funds, and someone could get fired for that. in ivy's case, it doesnt affect her 1 bit. and therein lies the sadness... :mad:
 
Turiko said:
@BTTB

I am beginning to think the sad situation of telecoms in SA is indeed a larger thing than just Poison Ivy.

I am beginning to think that the ANC is doing this on purpose, as a form of censorship on it's citizens, like the Chinese do...
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Hi Turiko,

Yes. Perhaps they have a hidden agenda for that.
Not the first Government in history to go out of it's way to deny it's citizens a proper education assuming of course people use the internet to broaden their knowledge.

/Dons tin hat :D
The Central Bankers don't want you to be educated. They control a Country by the issuance of it's money, increasing or decreasing the money supply and interest rates to suit their agenda, controlling the Media to herd the sheep and they have a secret RFID Chip in Ivy's brain that tells her what to do.
/Tin hat removed :rolleyes:
 
I'm sure she reads this forum. All her actions and inactions seem eerily focused on wreaking maximum vengeance upon us all for the nasty things we say about her.
 
BTTB said:
This whole thing is a lot bigger than just Ivy. Ivy is being told what to do.
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There is definitely a power behind Ivy. My bet is Lyndall. And then something/someone behind her as well. Politics and business are nasty games and we have nfi what actually happens behind the scenes :(
 
Turiko said:
@BTTB

I am beginning to think the sad situation of telecoms in SA is indeed a larger thing than just Poison Ivy.

I am beginning to think that the ANC is doing this on purpose, as a form of censorship on it's citizens, like the Chinese do...
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I think that you are giving them too much credit. I reckon it is all about hard, cold cash...
 
time for people to band together

I think it's time that people band together under 1 neutral group, perhaps the ISPA, get contributions from the public and business and put millions into opposing Ivy. I personally would support this with a contribution would be willing to sign a petition demanding a change from her managed liberisation.

She's got to be benifitting from someone to keep the industry in the state it is.
 
She is benefitting from the big guns at the helm of Telkom, and someone else. It has even been said that she is their collective puppet.
 
Can someone explain how much revenue the government is getting from their share holdings in Telkom? Then can someone build a scenario around how much more revenue the government could derive from an open communications environment?

I have watched governments and incumbents from the time of the Carterfone decision in 1968 by the FCC in the USA to the wrangling of governments and incumbents in Europe during the 1990s to keep things status quo. Building a scenario and populating it, with everyone refering to it in their discussions will go a long way towards forcing change.
 
I don't suppose there's any chance of getting all the ISPs to cut services for a day in protest and show how much the country actually needs internet connectivity? </pipe dream>
 
Yes, the judge erred. He should have held Ivy personally accountable for costs and punitive damages.
 
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