Joke values on my car

Here is how I have learned to buy my cars. I buy the car I am willing to drive for 10 years and am confident should last me that long without too many issues. So nothing with a turbo or too many other fancy gimmicks.

Agreed. My car will be ten next year. First issue I had with it was yesterday, had to replace the ignition coil on cylider no.4. R250. No worries.

Hell, I only just recently (as in Monday) replaced the original wiper blades - Ok, I did use the motorbike daily for about five years of the car's life to date, but still.

The other thing I learnt is that I will never buy a new car again.
 
You must live in the Kalahari...

To be honest, I did check the weather report before driving for the last bit there. But I mean FFS, dealer only wiper blades at nearly R600/pair I damn well made sure I got my money's worth...
 
Agreed. My car will be ten next year. First issue I had with it was yesterday, had to replace the ignition coil on cylider no.4. R250. No worries.

Hell, I only just recently (as in Monday) replaced the original wiper blades - Ok, I did use the motorbike daily for about five years of the car's life to date, but still.

The other thing I learnt is that I will never buy a new car again.

do agree with you there, buying brand new is a waste of money.
think the best strategy is this, but at demo or 2 years old and sell at 5 when the big troubles really start;

so in my case brought 2010 car in 2013 drove if for 2 years almost, and now at exactly 5 years want to upgrade to something bigger...

next car will buy demo, drive it for 3-4 years until the plan runs out and sell;
not a bad strategy then espcially if you buy a car that falls apart after the warrenty goes;

not talking about something like a citigolf or tazz that goes forever......
 
I've been riding for 12 years+ and probably every day for the last 10 of them except for a short year break in the middle.

I don't live in Jo'burg no but I've done a bit of riding up there and it is quite different.

Certainly not a case of "one little knock and you are finished"...unless you are riding like an idiot and trying to ignore the laws of physics. I've been in three proper bike accidents and still have all my parts. Oddly enough the slowest of them all was the only one to break bones, which was basically my entire foot...I was not wearing riding boots at the time.

Gear up.

No you don't have speed on your side. It's not about that. It's simply about moving through traffic and there is absolutely no good reason to do that at speed.

You don't slip on painted surfaces and you don't ride where cars hit you from behind. Again it's all (mostly) within your power how much danger you put yourself in.

HOWEVER.

DO NOT buy a motorcycle as a primary means of transport. Don't buy a motorcycle as an "easy out" or as an A-B instead of a car. All your things about carrying stuff and all that are perfectly valid.

I've never had a bike and NOT had a car at the same time and I certainly don't plan to ever do that. At present we only have one car in the family...but that's still one car that I have access to whenever I need to do car things.

Right way to buy bike...

1. Go take lessons first. Make sure it's for you and that you have the passion/interest for it.

2. Do more lessons and get your learners and your license.

3. Buy ALL your gear. Helmet, Gloves, Jacket, Boots.

4. Now go shopping for a sensible motorcycle.

Unlike a car it's a slow process largely because it doesn't keep itself up right. You don't learn to ride bikes properly and/or safely overnight.
Great advice.

I actually didn't do this, and when I think back I cringe at how lucky I was to never have had an accident.

I started on little bikes, and had a 125cc for ages. I thought I was a hotshot, and upgraded straight to a Fireblade lol!

I rode that for a few months before I even knew about counter steering :wtf: , and you cant really turn a ****ing big bike without counter steering! Once I realised how stupid I was, I spent ages learning and reading about riding after that. Actually scared the **** out of me.
 
Great advice.

I actually didn't do this, and when I think back I cringe at how lucky I was to never have had an accident.

I started on little bikes, and had a 125cc for ages. I thought I was a hotshot, and upgraded straight to a Fireblade lol!

I rode that for a few months before I even knew about counter steering :wtf: , and you cant really turn a ****ing big bike without counter steering! Once I realised how stupid I was, I spent ages learning and reading about riding after that. Actually scared the **** out of me.

Don't worry, the advice comes from much the same place.

Although I could ride already the first bike I owned was a GSX-R600. Not a very good beginner bike at all. Took me two accidents and just barely not getting arrested to figure out it wasn't a very clever idea.

There is no worse way to learn to side than being forced to do it because you don't have a car. My ex didn't listen to me and tried that. Hardly did 500km on the bike and one of the big reasons she is now my ex was that bad decision.

You'll probably find your second bike and onwards will always be the ones you really love. First bike is somewhat of a gamble because it takes two years or so on a bike to figure out what you really want from it.
 
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do agree with you there, buying brand new is a waste of money.
think the best strategy is this, but at demo or 2 years old and sell at 5 when the big troubles really start;

so in my case brought 2010 car in 2013 drove if for 2 years almost, and now at exactly 5 years want to upgrade to something bigger...

next car will buy demo, drive it for 3-4 years until the plan runs out and sell;
not a bad strategy then espcially if you buy a car that falls apart after the warrenty goes;

not talking about something like a citigolf or tazz that goes forever......

Yeah spend more money buying new cars than you would have spent on keeping a good one running.

If a car gets to 5 years without drama, it will probably get to 10 or 15 without drama too.

Just don't buy a too good to be true deal again.

Your problem wasn't age, or mileage. Your problem was buying a lemon.

My 2000 Opel Corsa was 14 years old when I sold it in December. Third owner and it was a rental car originally with 165000km when it went.

Only reason it was sold it because I ride a bike and my wife drives the GTI it was standing and rusting away in the driveway and when I needed it the battery would be flat.

In the five or so years that I owned it and the five or so years before that, that my mother drove it the biggest job on the car was a head gasket. Original clutch and original everything else. Battery was changed recently and that was that.

My car now is a 2008/9 Golf 5 GTI bought in 2011. So I've had it four years and it's seven years old in total. Bought at 98000km and now at 157000km or so.

Bear in mind this is a high performance turbo charged car. BUT it has a full service history and was bought from a dealership. In immaculate condition at a reasonable price. It's a DSG a well.

Many other examples were cheaper and utterly nasty. If I was you and wanted to save a few grand I would have bought those...and suffered the consequences.

I've spent about 15k on the car in the 60000km that I've had it. Front suspension and discs+pads all round being the biggest items and not unexpected. Only strange thing has been PCV replacement.

That's R3750 per service or per year if you like. Those items will last another 100000km though so it will get cheaper and cheaper to run.

The car is paid for. That annual service cost is about what you will pay PER MONTH on a new lesser car.

It's also about what a new Polo will cost you to maintain or to purchase the service plan for the same mileage.
 
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Agree there,

I mean i still see picantos around and even older ones still on the road,

In my case could it be i just brought one in bad shape? And trying to Polish a tur*d.
:D

I had typed something like "buying a riced car and then trying to unrice it and sell for a decent price" in my previous post but removed it, glad you see the error finally.
 
Keep the car, you've fixed it up and it goes now. Drive it now :)
 
Hey OP man this article may appeal to you

"Kia has expanded its local Picanto line-up with the launch of a new entry-level - the LS.

Available in 10 exciting colours, the new Picanto 1.0 LS retails for only R119 995, which includes Kia'ss standard five-year or 150 000km warranty and three years of unlimited roadside assistance.

It slots in below the Picanto 1.0 LX (from R141 995) and the range-topping 1.2 EX (from R156 995). A two-year or 45 000km optional service plan is available."

http://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModels/Budget-Kia-Picanto-LS-in-SA-Price-gallery-20151002

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Hey OP man this article may appeal to you

"Kia has expanded its local Picanto line-up with the launch of a new entry-level - the LS.

Available in 10 exciting colours, the new Picanto 1.0 LS retails for only R119 995, which includes Kia'ss standard five-year or 150 000km warranty and three years of unlimited roadside assistance.

It slots in below the Picanto 1.0 LX (from R141 995) and the range-topping 1.2 EX (from R156 995). A two-year or 45 000km optional service plan is available."

http://www.wheels24.co.za/NewModels/Budget-Kia-Picanto-LS-in-SA-Price-gallery-20151002

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Rather buy a Brio though if i was inclined to spend that cash, waiting for the facelifted one to come out, with the metal tailgate,
Then the old ones will hopefully go cheap.....

Brio will be worth more, and last longer as per my opinion,
 
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KIA SA ADDS CHEAPER 1,2-LITRE MODEL TO PICANTO RANGE

Kia Motors South Africa has added a new 1,2-litre LS model to its local Picanto range.

The latest derivative effectively fills the gap – in terms of pricing, anyway – between the 1,0 LS and 1,0 LX models, coming in at R139 995.

For reference, the Picanto range starts at R129 995 (for the 1,0 LS) and runs through to R191 995 (for the 1,2 EX Automatic).

From the outside, the Kia Picanto 1,2 LS is identical to the 1,0 LS, featuring colour-coded door handles and side-mirrors, as well as 14-inch steel wheels with wheel covers.

Standard equipment includes air-conditioning, rake-adjustable steering, and 60:40 split folding rear seats. The 1,2 LS does not feature a radio as standard, but two front speakers (and a USB connection) are included and wired to work with an aftermarket unit.

The Picanto 1,2 LS shares its powertrain and five-speed manual transmission with the Picanto 1,2 EX, which means it has 65 kW and 120 N.m on tap. The four-cylinder mill can also be optionally mated to an automatic transmission, which bumps the price up to R152 995.

The new derivative also features a driver’s airbag and Isofix child-seat anchors in the rear, while the brand’s five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty comes standard. Options include a two-year/45 000 km service plan and a sunroof (the latter for R7 500).

http://www.carmag.co.za/news_post/kia-motors-sa-adds-new-12-litre-ls-to-picanto-range/
 
^True....however insurance premiums are correspondingly higher for vehicles with a glass tailgate.

That is known fact through the industry.
 
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