Joke values on my car

The issue is that we're not Google that just spits out answers all day long, we're people who've applied our minds to your questions, and made the effort to offer you advice, much of which you chose to ignore, get stung, and then come back on here and ask those same people for yet more advice on how to dig yourself out of the increasingly deep hole you dug yourself into.

Yes, your questions are mostly valid. But so are our replies, and if you don't stop ignoring that advice, you'll find more and more people start ignoring your requests for advice.

I do really appreciate the advice, I really do,
Know im in a hole here and Im trying to gauge if this kind of thing happens only to me or to others;
from what I understand this happens to a lot of guys; nothing to do about it I get that now;

I want to know what other people did to climb out of their hole;
and I got some good advice especially from some other guys who sold their picantos for better cash;
I mean I cant be the only dude who brought a dud; and at least covered his loss?

was half serious about the chinese cars; sure theres a forumite here who brought chinese;
wonder how they got out of that?

I want to get something resonable; know its probably not gonna happen; made peace with that;
 
Don't be a pussy.

Look after yourself and take the responsibility into your own hands instead of blaming everyone else.

Take back the power.

definitely like bikes, have many advantages over cars, not gonna lie;
did you move from a car to a bike sauron? and do you live in JHB? with its traffic and such;
any close calls with those? I mean Im a bit apprehensive/scared if Im being really honest;
one little knock and your finished, yes you have speed on your side on a bike,
but one slip on a painted surface and a car following you runs you over;

at this stage its an option for me; if Id go; Id go for something small and cheap so if I crash it;
no big deal, once I get a bit of confidence, maybe upgrade to that sweet honda bike;
maybe its not the best strategy, granted, but dont want to go buying a bike to simple see its not for me;
or have a taxi sideswipe me ; or numerous other bad things ;

true I guess Im a bit afraid, but who can blame me, statistically their more dangerous
and Im sure Ill have a huge amount of convincing to do; at least in my current situation;

does look very nice though; do like it;
 
It's now 3 years old.

My clutch plate (actually the springs themselves got weak) was kaput a bit quick (at 65 000km). But admittedly I put 50 000km on it in 2 years (got it with 21 000km on the clock) and 40 000km of that was forever crawling R55 and M1 and other Sandton traffic.

No other work done on it since there are no other issues.

service cost? parts cost? sure wasnt too expensive?

was actually advised by somebody to take a look at something like this;

http://www.autotrader.co.za/used-ca...carandcommercialpricerangeszar/70000-to-84999

maybe somebody here can tell me what they think?
 
No worries. Your vocabulary is impressive for a non-native speaker, it's just your judicious use of semicolons. :D

The only thing I use those for are email address separators and wink smileys. Don't even know what they are meant to be used for.
 
definitely like bikes, have many advantages over cars, not gonna lie;
did you move from a car to a bike sauron? and do you live in JHB? with its traffic and such;
any close calls with those? I mean Im a bit apprehensive/scared if Im being really honest;
one little knock and your finished, yes you have speed on your side on a bike,
but one slip on a painted surface and a car following you runs you over;

at this stage its an option for me; if Id go; Id go for something small and cheap so if I crash it;
no big deal, once I get a bit of confidence, maybe upgrade to that sweet honda bike;
maybe its not the best strategy, granted, but dont want to go buying a bike to simple see its not for me;
or have a taxi sideswipe me ; or numerous other bad things ;

true I guess Im a bit afraid, but who can blame me, statistically their more dangerous
and Im sure Ill have a huge amount of convincing to do; at least in my current situation;

does look very nice though; do like it;

I've been riding for 12 years+ and probably every day for the last 10 of them except for a short year break in the middle.

I don't live in Jo'burg no but I've done a bit of riding up there and it is quite different.

Certainly not a case of "one little knock and you are finished"...unless you are riding like an idiot and trying to ignore the laws of physics. I've been in three proper bike accidents and still have all my parts. Oddly enough the slowest of them all was the only one to break bones, which was basically my entire foot...I was not wearing riding boots at the time.

Gear up.

No you don't have speed on your side. It's not about that. It's simply about moving through traffic and there is absolutely no good reason to do that at speed.

You don't slip on painted surfaces and you don't ride where cars hit you from behind. Again it's all (mostly) within your power how much danger you put yourself in.

HOWEVER.

DO NOT buy a motorcycle as a primary means of transport. Don't buy a motorcycle as an "easy out" or as an A-B instead of a car. All your things about carrying stuff and all that are perfectly valid.

I've never had a bike and NOT had a car at the same time and I certainly don't plan to ever do that. At present we only have one car in the family...but that's still one car that I have access to whenever I need to do car things.

Right way to buy bike...

1. Go take lessons first. Make sure it's for you and that you have the passion/interest for it.

2. Do more lessons and get your learners and your license.

3. Buy ALL your gear. Helmet, Gloves, Jacket, Boots.

4. Now go shopping for a sensible motorcycle.

Unlike a car it's a slow process largely because it doesn't keep itself up right. You don't learn to ride bikes properly and/or safely overnight.
 
I've been riding for 12 years+ and probably every day for the last 10 of them except for a short year break in the middle.

I don't live in Jo'burg no but I've done a bit of riding up there and it is quite different.

Certainly not a case of "one little knock and you are finished"...unless you are riding like an idiot and trying to ignore the laws of physics. I've been in three proper bike accidents and still have all my parts. Oddly enough the slowest of them all was the only one to break bones, which was basically my entire foot...I was not wearing riding boots at the time.

Gear up.

No you don't have speed on your side. It's not about that. It's simply about moving through traffic and there is absolutely no good reason to do that at speed.

You don't slip on painted surfaces and you don't ride where cars hit you from behind. Again it's all (mostly) within your power how much danger you put yourself in.

HOWEVER.

DO NOT buy a motorcycle as a primary means of transport. Don't buy a motorcycle as an "easy out" or as an A-B instead of a car. All your things about carrying stuff and all that are perfectly valid.

I've never had a bike and NOT had a car at the same time and I certainly don't plan to ever do that. At present we only have one car in the family...but that's still one car that I have access to whenever I need to do car things.

Right way to buy bike...

1. Go take lessons first. Make sure it's for you and that you have the passion/interest for it.

2. Do more lessons and get your learners and your license.

3. Buy ALL your gear. Helmet, Gloves, Jacket, Boots.

4. Now go shopping for a sensible motorcycle.

Unlike a car it's a slow process largely because it doesn't keep itself up right. You don't learn to ride bikes properly and/or safely overnight.

very sound advice sauron, thanks you so much; will listen to what yo usay quite intently.
way I think of it is ill give it a miss or start with a cheap big boy or something first
or move to a rural area; or vietnam :D

most of those points are very vaild in my case, as

I can ride a bike, but never even tried a motorcycle/scooter ( so training is a big issue) Id need some very serious lessons first;
bikes arent a joke, you can very easily loose your life, on one if your not prepared to spend the cash looking after yourself;

Im not sure about a BMW c1 though, I mean do you even need a helmet on that?

just a question?
but id start with a big boy or motomia first definitely; but as an additional first
 
service cost? parts cost? sure wasnt too expensive?

Services at my usual place are the normal R1200 to R1800 (depending on type of type of service). Clutch plate replacement was R5000 in total. Could have gone a while with it but it shuddered if it was warm and I was crawling in very slow traffic and I didn't want to risk it going in some crap place.
 
Services at my usual place are the normal R1200 to R1800 (depending on type of type of service). Clutch plate replacement was R5000 in total. Could have gone a while with it but it shuddered if it was warm and I was crawling in very slow traffic and I didn't want to risk it going in some crap place.

sounds very resonable, yesterday had my clutch cable oiled; and replaced CV joint only on the left;
(even though I brought 2).

cost around R1000, did service at concept tuning near me, cost me R300 but I brought the oil and plugs and filters myself;
checked what a genuine kia service would cost, R900 was quoted for a minor one;

mostly id say besidedes cosmetic things most of the stuff that imortant for the car I done.
and most of the rest were cosmentic really, to ***try*** increase the resale value;
 
Here is how I have learned to buy my cars. I buy the car I am willing to drive for 10 years and am confident should last me that long without too many issues. So nothing with a turbo or too many other fancy gimmicks.
 
very sound advice sauron, thanks you so much; will listen to what yo usay quite intently.
way I think of it is ill give it a miss or start with a cheap big boy or something first
or move to a rural area; or vietnam :D

most of those points are very vaild in my case, as

I can ride a bike, but never even tried a motorcycle/scooter ( so training is a big issue) Id need some very serious lessons first;
bikes arent a joke, you can very easily loose your life, on one if your not prepared to spend the cash looking after yourself;

Im not sure about a BMW c1 though, I mean do you even need a helmet on that?

just a question?
but id start with a big boy or motomia first definitely; but as an additional first

I don't think you need anything for a C1.

But then you might as well drive a car or one of those three wheeled things.
 
Here is how I have learned to buy my cars. I buy the car I am willing to drive for 10 years and am confident should last me that long without too many issues. So nothing with a turbo or too many other fancy gimmicks.

thats exactly what I thought buying a base model car, yes kia but you see plenty around.
would have brought a tazz if I found one that wasn't crazy expensive.

theres a reason these cars are such bestsellers, they last a very long time;
 
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