Kia Sonet

Safety features should be the same in all variants. Only luxurious / nice to have things should cost more.
At least the basic ones, I won't demand blind spot assist and lane departure monitoring but if other manufacturers can do it at that price surely everyone can, there was a time Hyundai cars did not have ESC, and I am talking about recent years, even in their bigger SUVs, yet people were still buying their cars without a care in the world.
 
At least the basic ones, I won't demand blind spot assist and lane departure monitoring but if other manufacturers can do it at that price surely everyone can

Agree 100%.
If only more of the buying public would insist on this, then manufacturers would need to act.
Or even the insurance industry should up there game.
Imagine the insurance savings if all new cars had to have ABS, EBD and ESC as standard.
 
Kia Sonet First Anniversary Edition Celebrates Success, But Not For SA

The Kia Sonet First Anniversary Edition celebrates the success of the model in India (where it’s built) with its design inspired by the extinct Auroch. Sadly this special edition will not reach South Africa.

We reviewed the Kia Sonet compact SUV earlier this year and came away impressed by what it had to offer. In fact, we think it’s one of the best compact SUVs you can buy for under R300k.

In India, where the Sonet is produced, Kia has introduced the Sonet First Anniversary Edition which celebrates the first year the model has been on sale in that market as well as the success it has experienced.

The design is inspired by the Eurasian Auroch cattle which can be seen in the lower bumper resembling the horns of the Auroch. Kia’s familiar tiger-nose grille gains hot-stamped tangerine accents which is also seen on the lower bumper section. Similarly-styled side skirts are also fitted.


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"All the crucial safety boxes ticked"

This is the car with 2 airbag derivatives only, and zero NCAP testing of any kind...

It's almost 2022 and in SA we praise manufacturers for hitting 2 airbags + ABS + ESC at almost 300k.

It's ridiculous, we should seeing 4 airbags in new vehicles as the bare minimum along with NCAP testing to ensure that the safety is more than unsubstantiated marketing crap.

But I doubt we will see KIA send any more vehicles for Global NCAP testing, given the embarrassingly poor performance of the more expensive Seltos last year.
 
I'm in the market for a small SUV/cross over. I currently drive a Honda Ballade 1.5 CVT. The Honda is a fantastic car that I have been driving for the past 5 years but the low driving position together with my bad back is not a good combo. I also feel that it is time for a change just to keep life interesting. My colleagues make fun of the Ballade and calls it the "Uber car" and refer to me as the "taxi driver". It was an older gentleman's car that I bought when he traded it in and he adorned all the bumpers with rubber anti-bump / scratch protection that has been bolted to the bumpers. At age 47, I am over most of my mid-life crisis and while it does not bother me, you would expect the car to be parked at a retirement village rather than in front of a middle aged semi-petrol head's house. Max budget is around R300k.

I have had a decent look at the Nissan Magnite, Toyota Urban Cruiser, Suzuki Brezza (the Toyota and Suzuki are the exact same car, just a different badge), Kia Sonet, VW T-Cross, Hyundai Venue and Honda WR-V and also the new Fit although it is not a crossover per definition.

The car will be used for commuting to work / gym / shopping / driving my son around (when my wife is at work) etc. My wife has 2019 Honda CRV 2.0 that is our main "going-away" car so my requirements are for something smaller that can still carry 4 people and school bags / equipment / shopping etc.

My investigation has resulted in the following assessments:
- Nissan Magnite: My wife's one colleague just bought one. It has 1,0L turbo 3 cylinder engine. It looks well designed if a bit sparse on the inside for my liking. My wife drove a Qashqai for 5 years and we always battled with servicing as the closest Nissan dealer is 5 suburbs away from where we stay.
- Toyota Urban Cruiser: A neighbour has one and another of my wife's colleagues owns one. Uglier than the Brezza in my opinion and a Suzuki with a Toyota badge.
- Suzuki Brezza: I think Suzuki makes good small cars. Worth a look. My wife does not like the design though.
- VW T-Cross: There must be about 5 of them in 3 blocks where I live. Overpriced for what you get IMO. I owned a Jetta Cli and Golf GTi in the 90's and early 2000's and I was a typical boy racer back then - I loved fast cars and even faster girls. I'm not a VW fan though.
- Honda WRV: Honda makes some of the most reliable engines around but the fit and finish of the lower priced models are pretty average these days. The WRV is manual only with a 1.2 non-turbo engine the same one used in the 1.2 Jazz models. Honda's 1.2L engine is a bit underpowered IMO.
- Honda Fit: I love the Jazz. I bought my FIL the 1.5L version a few years ago. Fantastic little car. The Fit's design, especially the front is a step backwards IMO. The inside is also very sparse with a very low dashboard. It does provide excellent visibility but sitting behind the steering wheel you get the impression it was designed for the 70+ age group. The magic seats are still there and is still a fantastic invention from Honda.
- Kia Sonet: I drove a Kia Picanto for 4 years, the 1.2L second generation version. I bought it brand new for R120k as a little city run-around. It was the most fun little car I ever owned. It was nippy as hell and you could park it anywhere. I sold it after a Jeep attempted to do a parallel park behind my Picanto, got the angle wrong and dented the back door and back fender quite badly. The Sonet's are all but sold out in SA. If you can find one at independent dealers, they add R50k to the list price and people still seem to buy them. I was told by the dealer that the next batch that will arrive in Feb is already basically sold out. It has a 1.5L engine with CVT box.
- Hyundai Venue: Also has the 1.0T engine. The design reminds me of a hippo - wide hips and narrow shoulders. I loved the Moomin cartoons when I was young. The Venue looks like Moomin to me.

My critical criteria are quite simple, high-ish driving position that makes getting into the car easy and you don't have to crawl out, comfortable seating, good aircon, solid warranty, auto gearbox and preferably Apple CarPlay. I use Maps/Waze a lot and stream music/listen to audiobooks so the Carplay interface makes life much easier when you don't have to constantly grab your phone. Oh and reverse camera - I can't live without that any more.

My current Ballade is the executive model with leather seats and keyless access / go. The leather is nice but gets very hot in summer and I don't have small kids that make mess in the car that will leave stains on fabric. As for keyless access / go - I still open/lock the doors using the button on the key fob and pushing a button to start the engine vs turning a key is a first world topic for debate. I find no benefit in pushing a button vs turning a key. I am quite fond of the CVT gearbox (yes, there must be something wrong with me). Both my Ballade and my wife's CRV has a CVT gearbox. They are super smooth and seem to work well with my driving style.

So I narrowed the list down and took the Brezza and Sonet for a test drive.
- Brezza GLX AT: The 1.5L engine makes 77Kw. Strangely enough it is paired to a 4 speed auto box with a manual side mounted overdrive button on the gear stick - I can't remember when last I saw something like that. If overdrive is off, it limits the box to 3 gears. You can also shift the lever down and limit it to 2 gears or even only 1. The 77Kw feels okay but the auto box's gear changes are very noticeable. The dashboard is hard plastic with an odd dotted indentation design and the layout is a bit old-school. The speedo and rev counter are manual clocks with only the trip meter being digital. You can change the dashboard backlight colour though to a few different combo's of the RGB spectrum. Driving position is fine and the Brezza has climate control and keyless go. While it does have CarPlay, it is wired and the screen's resolution is very low. The infotainment system has a basic block-like design for options/settings - it looks a bit dated. Ride is quite soft but a bit bumpy. There is no horizontal grab handle to close the door and you have to use the diagonal mounted one which feels a bit odd - kind of like an old bakkie or truck. The indicator stalk is also on the right side and I am used to it being mounted on the left. Strange as it is Japanese. I would have thought Honda and Suzuki would have the same stalk selector config. The turn circle is a bit larger than my Ballade. I had to use 2 manoeuvres to get into a parking spot the Ballade would only have used needed a single turn. The Internet claims that there is a facelift / redesign coming in June 2022. It looks good - kind of like the girl next door. If she is the only one who wants to give you any attention, you will take it. The demo model was a burnt orange type colour with a black roof - quite an attention grabbing colour combo.
- Sonet EX CVT: It looks funky as hell. Kind of remind me of an old short wheelbase Pajero. Whomever designed it did a great job. The demo model was a bright blue with black roof. While the dashboard is a lot of hard plastic, it is smooth and the layout is super modern. The infotainment system has a very modern design, I also believe that it has wireless CarPlay. The speedo is all digital and the numbers are very large and bright - it is very clear and easy to see. Petrol level and temp gauges are also all digital. The 1.5L engine makes 85kW and it feels more peppy than the Suzuki. The CVT is also a lot smoother than the 4 speed auto box of the Brezza. The ride is less bumpy and feels firmer than that of the Brezza. It uses a normal key and only has aircon - so no climate control. The leather covered steering wheel has a flat bottom and looks a bit like that of an RS Audi. Although it does not have steering wheel based paddles, the CVT box can be put into manual mode which allows you to manually shift between pre-set gearing positions. The steering is super light and easy to manouver in the traffic. Only downside I can see is that it only has 2 airbags in the front.

Out of these 2 the Sonet is definitely the winner, at least based on my assessment.

Any other suggestions from the car fundi's ?
 
It sounds like you have done your homework. Not a fan of baby SUV's but you have stated your (valid) reasons. Go for it if you can find one. I can vouch for Kia reliability.

As a runner up I would say Magnite. A colleague just bought one and is pretty happy and he is coming from a GT-86.
 
I'm in the market for a small SUV/cross over. I currently drive a Honda Ballade 1.5 CVT. The Honda is a fantastic car that I have been driving for the past 5 years but the low driving position together with my bad back is not a good combo. I also feel that it is time for a change just to keep life interesting. My colleagues make fun of the Ballade and calls it the "Uber car" and refer to me as the "taxi driver". It was an older gentleman's car that I bought when he traded it in and he adorned all the bumpers with rubber anti-bump / scratch protection that has been bolted to the bumpers. At age 47, I am over most of my mid-life crisis and while it does not bother me, you would expect the car to be parked at a retirement village rather than in front of a middle aged semi-petrol head's house. Max budget is around R300k.

I have had a decent look at the Nissan Magnite, Toyota Urban Cruiser, Suzuki Brezza (the Toyota and Suzuki are the exact same car, just a different badge), Kia Sonet, VW T-Cross, Hyundai Venue and Honda WR-V and also the new Fit although it is not a crossover per definition.

The car will be used for commuting to work / gym / shopping / driving my son around (when my wife is at work) etc. My wife has 2019 Honda CRV 2.0 that is our main "going-away" car so my requirements are for something smaller that can still carry 4 people and school bags / equipment / shopping etc.

My investigation has resulted in the following assessments:
- Nissan Magnite: My wife's one colleague just bought one. It has 1,0L turbo 3 cylinder engine. It looks well designed if a bit sparse on the inside for my liking. My wife drove a Qashqai for 5 years and we always battled with servicing as the closest Nissan dealer is 5 suburbs away from where we stay.
- Toyota Urban Cruiser: A neighbour has one and another of my wife's colleagues owns one. Uglier than the Brezza in my opinion and a Suzuki with a Toyota badge.
- Suzuki Brezza: I think Suzuki makes good small cars. Worth a look. My wife does not like the design though.
- VW T-Cross: There must be about 5 of them in 3 blocks where I live. Overpriced for what you get IMO. I owned a Jetta Cli and Golf GTi in the 90's and early 2000's and I was a typical boy racer back then - I loved fast cars and even faster girls. I'm not a VW fan though.
- Honda WRV: Honda makes some of the most reliable engines around but the fit and finish of the lower priced models are pretty average these days. The WRV is manual only with a 1.2 non-turbo engine the same one used in the 1.2 Jazz models. Honda's 1.2L engine is a bit underpowered IMO.
- Honda Fit: I love the Jazz. I bought my FIL the 1.5L version a few years ago. Fantastic little car. The Fit's design, especially the front is a step backwards IMO. The inside is also very sparse with a very low dashboard. It does provide excellent visibility but sitting behind the steering wheel you get the impression it was designed for the 70+ age group. The magic seats are still there and is still a fantastic invention from Honda.
- Kia Sonet: I drove a Kia Picanto for 4 years, the 1.2L second generation version. I bought it brand new for R120k as a little city run-around. It was the most fun little car I ever owned. It was nippy as hell and you could park it anywhere. I sold it after a Jeep attempted to do a parallel park behind my Picanto, got the angle wrong and dented the back door and back fender quite badly. The Sonet's are all but sold out in SA. If you can find one at independent dealers, they add R50k to the list price and people still seem to buy them. I was told by the dealer that the next batch that will arrive in Feb is already basically sold out. It has a 1.5L engine with CVT box.
- Hyundai Venue: Also has the 1.0T engine. The design reminds me of a hippo - wide hips and narrow shoulders. I loved the Moomin cartoons when I was young. The Venue looks like Moomin to me.

My critical criteria are quite simple, high-ish driving position that makes getting into the car easy and you don't have to crawl out, comfortable seating, good aircon, solid warranty, auto gearbox and preferably Apple CarPlay. I use Maps/Waze a lot and stream music/listen to audiobooks so the Carplay interface makes life much easier when you don't have to constantly grab your phone. Oh and reverse camera - I can't live without that any more.

My current Ballade is the executive model with leather seats and keyless access / go. The leather is nice but gets very hot in summer and I don't have small kids that make mess in the car that will leave stains on fabric. As for keyless access / go - I still open/lock the doors using the button on the key fob and pushing a button to start the engine vs turning a key is a first world topic for debate. I find no benefit in pushing a button vs turning a key. I am quite fond of the CVT gearbox (yes, there must be something wrong with me). Both my Ballade and my wife's CRV has a CVT gearbox. They are super smooth and seem to work well with my driving style.

So I narrowed the list down and took the Brezza and Sonet for a test drive.
- Brezza GLX AT: The 1.5L engine makes 77Kw. Strangely enough it is paired to a 4 speed auto box with a manual side mounted overdrive button on the gear stick - I can't remember when last I saw something like that. If overdrive is off, it limits the box to 3 gears. You can also shift the lever down and limit it to 2 gears or even only 1. The 77Kw feels okay but the auto box's gear changes are very noticeable. The dashboard is hard plastic with an odd dotted indentation design and the layout is a bit old-school. The speedo and rev counter are manual clocks with only the trip meter being digital. You can change the dashboard backlight colour though to a few different combo's of the RGB spectrum. Driving position is fine and the Brezza has climate control and keyless go. While it does have CarPlay, it is wired and the screen's resolution is very low. The infotainment system has a basic block-like design for options/settings - it looks a bit dated. Ride is quite soft but a bit bumpy. There is no horizontal grab handle to close the door and you have to use the diagonal mounted one which feels a bit odd - kind of like an old bakkie or truck. The indicator stalk is also on the right side and I am used to it being mounted on the left. Strange as it is Japanese. I would have thought Honda and Suzuki would have the same stalk selector config. The turn circle is a bit larger than my Ballade. I had to use 2 manoeuvres to get into a parking spot the Ballade would only have used needed a single turn. The Internet claims that there is a facelift / redesign coming in June 2022. It looks good - kind of like the girl next door. If she is the only one who wants to give you any attention, you will take it. The demo model was a burnt orange type colour with a black roof - quite an attention grabbing colour combo.
- Sonet EX CVT: It looks funky as hell. Kind of remind me of an old short wheelbase Pajero. Whomever designed it did a great job. The demo model was a bright blue with black roof. While the dashboard is a lot of hard plastic, it is smooth and the layout is super modern. The infotainment system has a very modern design, I also believe that it has wireless CarPlay. The speedo is all digital and the numbers are very large and bright - it is very clear and easy to see. Petrol level and temp gauges are also all digital. The 1.5L engine makes 85kW and it feels more peppy than the Suzuki. The CVT is also a lot smoother than the 4 speed auto box of the Brezza. The ride is less bumpy and feels firmer than that of the Brezza. It uses a normal key and only has aircon - so no climate control. The leather covered steering wheel has a flat bottom and looks a bit like that of an RS Audi. Although it does not have steering wheel based paddles, the CVT box can be put into manual mode which allows you to manually shift between pre-set gearing positions. The steering is super light and easy to manouver in the traffic. Only downside I can see is that it only has 2 airbags in the front.

Out of these 2 the Sonet is definitely the winner, at least based on my assessment.

Any other suggestions from the car fundi's ?
I believe the Sonet will have a 1.0 petrol turbo coming in soon.

Have you looked at the mahindra xuv300 ? I think they also have a refresh for 2022 coming soon.
 
The Suzuki and Toyota are being replaced this year, so I’d be hesitant to consider the current models.
 
I believe the Sonet will have a 1.0 petrol turbo coming in soon.

Have you looked at the mahindra xuv300 ? I think they also have a refresh for 2022 coming soon.
I've never even considered Mahindra to be honest. Simply because there is no dealership close to me - nearest one is in Kuilsriver.
I had a look at the website and it does look like a decent car. It is even smaller than the Sonet at 3993mm in length compared to the 4120mm of the Kia. I see they have either a 1.5L diesel of 1.2T petrol engine. There is no auto box option though, so both models are manual only.

I also had a look at the Cherry Tiggo4Pro. Cars.co.za gave it a good review. It is well specced and well priced. I'm just not sure if I am ready to go Chinese yet. That said I see a lot of the Haval Jolions here in Durbanville so they seem quite popular.
 
T-Cross all day. Maybe a bit overpriced but the refinement is great, has 6 airbags, esp and 5 star euro NCAP and that three cylinder 1.0 is an absolute peach. Honda wrv and fit also great but the engines are PAP. The suzi/toy brezza, sonet, creta, kiger, Datsun are purpose built third world country models with the most basic safety features.
 
T-Cross all day. Maybe a bit overpriced but the refinement is great, has 6 airbags, esp and 5 star euro NCAP and that three cylinder 1.0 is an absolute peach. Honda wrv and fit also great but the engines are PAP. The suzi/toy brezza, sonet, creta, kiger, Datsun are purpose built third world country models with the most basic safety features.
The T-Cross' 1.0T engine produces 85kW so exactly the same as the Kia's 1.5L engine. If I take the T-Cross Highline spec, add the infotainment option that has CarPlay plus the parking option that includes a rear view camera to get it on par with the Kia feature wise, the T-Cross is R469k vs the Sonet's R326k. Difficult to justify the R140k odd for what is effectively a Polo on Creatine.

I've done some research and discovered this 3 car shoot-out between the VW, Brezza and Sonet.

https://www.timeslive.co.za/motorin...t-cross-vs-kia-sonet-vs-suzuki-vitara-brezza/


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So I decided to swing past the dealer again this afternoon and took the Sonet for a longer test including testing the infotainment system, car/system settings, testing the back seats and driving on more uneven roads. All I can say is that the Sonet is bloody difficult to ignore. The engine is peppy, the CVT box is super smooth and has none of the Honda's screeching at higher revs, the wireless CarPlay is awesome and the dash readout and speedometer is funky and easy to use. I did about a 30km in-town test drive which included robot to robot races, some highway cruising and driving in bumper to bumper traffic. I reset the trip meter which indicated a 5,9L/100km average usage when I got back to the dealership and as test drives go I was not kind to the throttle. My Honda (also a 1,5L engine with CVT box averages around 9,5L/100km in the same drive situations). Cruising on the highway at 110km/h the Kia's usage economy readout sat at 4,7L/100km.

I would be happy to call the Sonet my daily driver. Sure it is not a race car nor a hot hatch but is a super smooth, well designed, solidly built and good looking compact SUV at a mid-entry level car price.

I'm trying to get the dealer to sell me the demo model.
 
The T-Cross' 1.0T engine produces 85kW so exactly the same as the Kia's 1.5L engine. If I take the T-Cross Highline spec, add the infotainment option that has CarPlay plus the parking option that includes a rear view camera to get it on par with the Kia feature wise, the T-Cross is R469k vs the Sonet's R326k. Difficult to justify the R140k odd for what is effectively a Polo on Creatine.

I've done some research and discovered this 3 car shoot-out between the VW, Brezza and Sonet.

https://www.timeslive.co.za/motorin...t-cross-vs-kia-sonet-vs-suzuki-vitara-brezza/


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So I decided to swing past the dealer again this afternoon and took the Sonet for a longer test including testing the infotainment system, car/system settings, testing the back seats and driving on more uneven roads. All I can say is that the Sonet is bloody difficult to ignore. The engine is peppy, the CVT box is super smooth and has none of the Honda's screeching at higher revs, the wireless CarPlay is awesome and the dash readout and speedometer is funky and easy to use. I did about a 30km in-town test drive which included robot to robot races, some highway cruising and driving in bumper to bumper traffic. I reset the trip meter which indicated a 5,9L/100km average usage when I got back to the dealership and as test drives go I was not kind to the throttle. My Honda (also a 1,5L engine with CVT box averages around 9,5L/100km in the same drive situations). Cruising on the highway at 110km/h the Kia's usage economy readout sat at 4,7L/100km.

I would be happy to call the Sonet my daily driver. Sure it is not a race car nor a hot hatch but is a super smooth, well designed, solidly built and good looking compact SUV at a mid-entry level car price.

I'm trying to get the dealer to sell me the demo model.
Also have a look at a demo or 1/2 year old Mazda CX-3.
 
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The T-Cross' 1.0T engine produces 85kW so exactly the same as the Kia's 1.5L engine. If I take the T-Cross Highline spec, add the infotainment option that has CarPlay plus the parking option that includes a rear view camera to get it on par with the Kia feature wise, the T-Cross is R469k vs the Sonet's R326k. Difficult to justify the R140k odd for what is effectively a Polo on Creatine.

I've done some research and discovered this 3 car shoot-out between the VW, Brezza and Sonet.

https://www.timeslive.co.za/motorin...t-cross-vs-kia-sonet-vs-suzuki-vitara-brezza/


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So I decided to swing past the dealer again this afternoon and took the Sonet for a longer test including testing the infotainment system, car/system settings, testing the back seats and driving on more uneven roads. All I can say is that the Sonet is bloody difficult to ignore. The engine is peppy, the CVT box is super smooth and has none of the Honda's screeching at higher revs, the wireless CarPlay is awesome and the dash readout and speedometer is funky and easy to use. I did about a 30km in-town test drive which included robot to robot races, some highway cruising and driving in bumper to bumper traffic. I reset the trip meter which indicated a 5,9L/100km average usage when I got back to the dealership and as test drives go I was not kind to the throttle. My Honda (also a 1,5L engine with CVT box averages around 9,5L/100km in the same drive situations). Cruising on the highway at 110km/h the Kia's usage economy readout sat at 4,7L/100km.

I would be happy to call the Sonet my daily driver. Sure it is not a race car nor a hot hatch but is a super smooth, well designed, solidly built and good looking compact SUV at a mid-entry level car price.

I'm trying to get the dealer to sell me the demo model.

I ordered myself the Kia Sonet 1.5 EX manual model after doing some research. Still waiting on the shipment though. But I am patiently going to wait for it. I think out of all the compact SUV's out there. The KIA Sonet is value for money.
 
I ordered myself the Kia Sonet 1.5 EX manual model after doing some research. Still waiting on the shipment though. But I am patiently going to wait for it. I think out of all the compact SUV's out there. The KIA Sonet is value for money.
Any update on ETA of your car . what Order process did you follow . Seriously considering the EX also
 
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