'Kills 30 blacks for every white murdered'

BobsLawnService said:
Instead if hysteria and indignant rage how about we get to the bottom of what is causing these people to feel that they have no choices but this and we try to resolve the issues.

Farm murders are out of control and farmers are being targeted. Elements of the ANC are inciting people to attack and kill farmers by calling them criminals and rapists.

People are just desperate and desperate people do stupid things.

Roughly 2% of European ethnicity farmers in South Africa have been murdered. This is an insanely high percentage of a population.

There is a very real problem here and ignoring and trivializing the desperation they are feeling is going to do a huge amount of harm in the long term.
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Just out of interest, would you afford the same to Islamic extremists?
 
VJB 449 said:
I'd love to see this stat on annual basis over the last 20 years:
No of whites killed by blacks vs no of blacks killed by whites.

It will be a nasty shock to some.
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What about whites killed by whites and blacks killed by blacks? They are about as relevant to some sort of justification for 'payback' as what these retards are suggesting.
 
Nick333 said:
Just out of interest, would you afford the same to Islamic extremists?
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Wait what?

For some reason people think I'm condoning what these farmers are saying. I'm not. What I am saying is that olugging our ears up and screaming "RACIST! RACIST! RACIST!" at the top of our voices isn't going to fix anything.
 
killadoob said:
Bunch of lunatics, again acting like white lives are more important.
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Lives are important though. All recorded farm murders have been of white-owned farms. The victims were abused, beaten, raped and traumatised and eventually tortured to death in what can only be described as a hate crime. They're not all lunatics - they're mostly people who have lost family and friends in horrible, horrible ways. Surviors of the attacks have all said mostly the same thing, that "they said we whites must die" and that they're "not getting away without punishment."

Since 1990, over three thousand farm murders have been recorded. Once the farmers start retaliating with their own armed guards and weapons, the local newspapers are going to start calling it a "civil unrest" and things snowball from there into a covered-up genocide. Hey, these things happen - look at Zimbabwe and most of Africa up there.

unskinnybob said:
Remove Andre Visagie from the gene pool please.
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His statements may be brash and a tad bit racial, but they come from the heart, I guess. Can hardly blame a guy for caring now, can we?
 
NAG - Wesley said:
Lives are important though. All recorded farm murders have been of white-owned farms.
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That's utter nonsense. There have been many recorded farm murder on black-owned farms. There was a Carte Blanche episode about this very issue last year...
 
NAG - Wesley said:
Lives are important though. All recorded farm murders have been of white-owned farms. The victims were abused, beaten, raped and traumatised and eventually tortured to death in what can only be described as a hate crime. They're not all lunatics - they're mostly people who have lost family and friends in horrible, horrible ways. Surviors of the attacks have all said mostly the same thing, that "they said we whites must die" and that they're "not getting away without punishment."
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We should be worried about about those crimes being ignored on black-owned farms then.
 
NAG - Wesley said:
Once the farmers start retaliating with their own armed guards and weapons, the local newspapers are going to start calling it a "civil unrest" and things snowball from there into a covered-up genocide.
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What? This already takes place. There are numerous private security companies in farming areas setup by the communities. They patrol and if absolutely necessary, they will kill. I'm not sure where you're getting your propaganda from...
 
BobsLawnService said:
Wait what?

For some reason people think I'm condoning what these farmers are saying. I'm not. What I am saying is that olugging our ears up and screaming "RACIST! RACIST! RACIST!" at the top of our voices isn't going to fix anything.
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Agreed, I think arresting psychos who threaten to murder people just because they're black, submitting them to psychological evaluation and at the very least keeping a very close watch on their activities from this point on is probably is going to fix this problem.
 
BobsLawnService said:
Roughly 2% of European ethnicity farmers in South Africa have been murdered. This is an insanely high percentage of a population.
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Where did you get this figure from?

What percentage of black farmers/farm workers have been murdered in the same time period?
 
Nick333 said:
Agreed, I think arresting psychos who threaten to murder people just because they're black, submitting them to psychological evaluation and at the very least keeping a very close watch on their activities from this point on is probably is going to fix this problem.
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Also, the government can stop their hate speech against farmers and people can stop raping, torturing and slaughtering them en masse.
 
NAG - Wesley said:
Lives are important though. All recorded farm murders have been of white-owned farms. The victims were abused, beaten, raped and traumatised and eventually tortured to death in what can only be described as a hate crime. They're not all lunatics - they're mostly people who have lost family and friends in horrible, horrible ways. Surviors of the attacks have all said mostly the same thing, that "they said we whites must die" and that they're "not getting away without punishment."

Since 1990, over three thousand farm murders have been recorded. Once the farmers start retaliating with their own armed guards and weapons, the local newspapers are going to start calling it a "civil unrest" and things snowball from there into a covered-up genocide. Hey, these things happen - look at Zimbabwe and most of Africa up there.



His statements may be brash and a tad bit racial, but they come from the heart, I guess. Can hardly blame a guy for caring now, can we?
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We can certainly blame him for his callous racism. Fcck this guy. Seeking retribution against all black people for the crimes of a tiny minority is about as racist as it gets.
 
NAG - Wesley said:
Lives are important though. All recorded farm murders have been of white-owned farms. The victims were abused, beaten, raped and traumatised and eventually tortured to death in what can only be described as a hate crime. They're not all lunatics - they're mostly people who have lost family and friends in horrible, horrible ways. Surviors of the attacks have all said mostly the same thing, that "they said we whites must die" and that they're "not getting away without punishment."

Since 1990, over three thousand farm murders have been recorded. Once the farmers start retaliating with their own armed guards and weapons, the local newspapers are going to start calling it a "civil unrest" and things snowball from there into a covered-up genocide. Hey, these things happen - look at Zimbabwe and most of Africa up there.



His statements may be brash and a tad bit racial, but they come from the heart, I guess. Can hardly blame a guy for caring now, can we?
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This is incorrect. The correct figure is about half that amount (1200) and not all were abused, beaten, raped and traumatised and eventually tortured to death, some were, not all.
 
BobsLawnService said:
Also, the government can stop their hate speech against farmers and people can stop raping, torturing and slaughtering them en masse.
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And if people don't stop raping and murdering other people we should threaten to murder some other people? If you don't see holding an entire race group responsible for the actions of a few as completely and utterly wrong then you are justifying it to one degree or another.
 
And over 3,000 is pretty close to the cooked up numbers of one strange Dutch lady.
 
VJB 449 said:
I'd love to see this stat on annual basis over the last 20 years:
No of whites killed by blacks vs no of blacks killed by whites.

It will be a nasty shock to some.
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*shock*!!!!&*(@#&@#&*@$*@#&*@()!@)!()(!@@

if that is all it takes for you to justify hatred then you need a course in logic.

people who have nothing, no property or anything of value are more likely to commit crimes than people that do. who is going to commit a crime, a guy who sits around all day in his shack on a saturday or a guy who sits and watches rugby on DSTV?

situations differ, people commit different kinds of crimes and have different motives, but show me white people who have murdered black people to get something from them, or show me white people who have needed anything a black person has.

not only that, not every murder is a pre-meditated break into the house torture and rape genocide murder. some people end up in squabbles and stab the other guy, some people kill their lovers, some people want to silence the victim of the house they've just robbed. race plays a factor in this as it language, culture and consequences affect a person, but RACE and genes itself does not make criminals.
 
Nick333 said:
And if people don't stop raping and murdering other people we should threaten to murder some other people? If you don't see holding an entire race group responsible for the actions of a few as completely and utterly wrong then you are justifying it to one degree or another.
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Of course blanket racism is wrong but the solution to end it is to find out the root cause of it.
 
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