Land Rover Discovery 3 thoughts?

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What are these cars like 2nd hand?

I see you can pick up some not so bad deals. . . mostly with semi high mileage anywhere up to 130 000 km 2005 - 2008's for reasonable prices.

Would you touch a 2nd hand one?

Out of plan I am guessing you looking at an arm and a leg if something breaks?

Also what are the TD like on consumption?

Just curious :)



Edit: In fact if I look at the Freelander 2, they are also nice looking deals.
 
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Buying a turbo out of motor plan is a ba-a-a-a-a-ad idea.

Buying an old landy out of maintenance period is a ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-ad idea.

Colleague of mine had their landy serviced, 2 days later the engine blew up. R65k damage, Land Rover told them it's not their problem.

The thing with all these luxury/high end vehicles is, they are cheap when they are out of motor plan for a reason. I wanted to buy a E46 318i beamer a while back. R100k for one with just over 100,000km on the clock. Still brand new inside, problem being out of motor plan, when hoses go you pay R8k to replace all of them. When anything else breaks you end up paying in the money you saved initially. It's sad, but it's true. Would love to get one of them nice cars, but there's just no way beating the system. :(

Unless you buy a very old landie which you can fix yourself, I would advise against it all together.

Another mate of mine from Brittain drove his Landy down from the UK to RSA. He said there 2 choices you have. An old landy which anyone can fix whenever it breaks down ... and a toyota land cruiser which just doesn't break down ever.

Btw, how's your Audi running ?
 
Voicy said:
Buying a turbo out of motor plan is a ba-a-a-a-a-ad idea.

Buying an old landy out of maintenance period is a ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-ad idea.

Colleague of mine had their landy serviced, 2 days later the engine blew up. R65k damage, Land Rover told them it's not their problem.

The thing with all these luxury/high end vehicles is, they are cheap when they are out of motor plan for a reason. I wanted to buy a E46 318i beamer a while back. R100k for one with just over 100,000km on the clock. Still brand new inside, problem being out of motor plan, when hoses go you pay R8k to replace all of them. When anything else breaks you end up paying in the money you saved initially. It's sad, but it's true. Would love to get one of them nice cars, but there's just no way beating the system. :(

Unless you buy a very old landie which you can fix yourself, I would advise against it all together.

Another mate of mine from Brittain drove his Landy down from the UK to RSA. He said there 2 choices you have. An old landy which anyone can fix whenever it breaks down ... and a toyota land cruiser which just doesn't break down ever.

Btw, how's your Audi running ?
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Kinda knew that was the case, was just curious as I love the Discovery 3 :)

Any expensive car is going to hurt you when it breaks regardless. I am looking at some low mileage Freelander 2's. Might still be in motorplan. I don't know what their policy is on extending plans.

The Audi is going great man, loving it, but considering getting a bigger family car. Had the Amarok in mind, the new For Ranger and now was just curious about the Disc 3. A demo Amarok with motorplan would probably be a safer bet.
 
friend of mine had the disco 3 SE diesel, super super car.. went off roading a lot with it and its just amazing.. until you have to fill it up again.. the diesel is very thirsty... its the 2.7 liter turbo diesel from peugeot. However, when the motorplan ran out, they started hearing funny and weird noises from everywhere and they didnt know how fast to get rid of it... now they have a VW amorak double cap diesel, and with some mods on it.. tires and suspension, the bakkie performs just as well as the disco, only using less than half the fuel..
 
thedutchman said:
friend of mine had the disco 3 SE diesel, super super car.. went off roading a lot with it and its just amazing.. until you have to fill it up again.. the diesel is very thirsty... its the 2.7 liter turbo diesel from peugeot. However, when the motorplan ran out, they started hearing funny and weird noises from everywhere and they didnt know how fast to get rid of it... now they have a VW amorak double cap diesel, and with some mods on it.. tires and suspension, the bakkie performs just as well as the disco, only using less than half the fuel..
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Nice to hear that about the Amarok. I really dig that car. It just has something that the other 4x4's lack, in its class. Is the Amarok's consumption decent?
 
Grim, have a serious look at that Amarok. I am a Navara man but when I park next to an Amarok, my bakkie goes green with envy! :D

Combined Fuel Consumptions estimates:
Amarok Double Cab 2.0 TSI 118kW 4×2: 9.6

Trendline Amarok Double Cab 2.0 TDI 90kW 4×2: 7.7

Trendline Amarok Double Cab 2.0 TDI 90kW: 7.7

Trendline 4Motion® Amarok Double Cab 2.0 BiTDI 120kW 4×2: 7.9

Highline Amarok Double Cab 2.0 BiTDI 120kW Highline 4Motion: 7.9
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But as Voicy pointed out, turbos and lux cars out of motorplan are a bad idea.

Any specific reason for a SUV / bakkie over a larger family car?
 
Errrmmm... what does the Amarok cost again ?
I seem to remember something like this from the OP...
I see you can pick up some not so bad deals. . . mostly with semi high mileage anywhere up to 130 000 km 2005 - 2008's for reasonable prices.
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No doubt the VW is a great vehicle... but you can't really try and compare a 5 year-old high-mileage vehicle with it.

In any case ... I've got an old Rangie V8 auto that has done just over 270,000 k's (I'm the second owner) ... no real problems except for the air suspension which I sorted out by doing a coil spring conversion. Motor, gearbox and diffs have given no problems. Repairs have surprisingly been cheaper than someout-warranty repairs I had to do on the missuss's Tuscon. I would stay away from any second hand turbo diesel though
 
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Very good cars.
Think they have a few knows problems.
But they are fully electronic, making it difficult to work on yourself.

But for Sub R200k, there is not much that can compete with it. For the Price of a Navara or Amarok, you can buy a almost new D3 or even a good D4. I'll also recon that the Amarok & Navara are also not Cheap to maintain.
 
McSack said:
In any case ... I've got an old Rangie V8 auto that has done just over 270,000 k's (I'm the second owner) ... no real problems except for the air suspension which I sorted out by doing a coil spring conversion. Motor, gearbox and diffs have given no problems. Repairs have surprisingly been cheaper than someout-warranty repairs I had to do on the missuss's Tuscon. I would stay away from any second hand turbo diesel
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Is it a Classic or a P38?

I've got a 2002 Range Rover 4.6HSE P38 with just over 230 000km on the clock.
They are as electronic as you can get a car. (Similar to D3). They have a few well documented problems. (driver window actuator, blender motors, crack in fuse box, air suspension issues)
But for a 10year old, high mileage vehicle it has very little issues. Ok, it does only do 4-5km/l, but the smile on your face while driving it is worth it! :D
 
Jase said:
Grim, have a serious look at that Amarok. I am a Navara man but when I park next to an Amarok, my bakkie goes green with envy! :D

Combined Fuel Consumptions estimates:
Amarok Double Cab 2.0 TSI 118kW 4×2: 9.6

Trendline Amarok Double Cab 2.0 TDI 90kW 4×2: 7.7

Trendline Amarok Double Cab 2.0 TDI 90kW: 7.7

Trendline 4Motion® Amarok Double Cab 2.0 BiTDI 120kW 4×2: 7.9

Highline Amarok Double Cab 2.0 BiTDI 120kW Highline 4Motion: 7.9
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But as Voicy pointed out, turbos and lux cars out of motorplan are a bad idea.

Any specific reason for a SUV / bakkie over a larger family car?
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I really like the look of the Amarok. But yeah they are pricey.

I am not really sure what to get, family car / SUV / bakkie.

I saw a nice low mileage Freelander 2 which I was keen on until they told me what they would offer me on my Audi. :eek:
 
spiderz said:
Is it a Classic or a P38?

I've got a 2002 Range Rover 4.6HSE P38 with just over 230 000km on the clock.
They are as electronic as you can get a car. (Similar to D3). They have a few well documented problems. (driver window actuator, blender motors, crack in fuse box, air suspension issues)
But for a 10year old, high mileage vehicle it has very little issues. Ok, it does only do 4-5km/l, but the smile on your face while driving it is worth it! :D
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I've got a '98 P38.... and had all those little issues you mentioned. Luckily there are plenty of online resources available so i got most of them sorted myself. Blender motors are more mission than I am prepared commit to so that problem is still around
You are 100% right about that smile ... and about the fuel consumption
 
McSack said:
So you reckon Gareth would have been OK if he crashed his Rangie the other night ? :) ;)
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Yea ofc. That is why he was traveling at that speed. He knew he'd be ok and the prick he is, he didn't give a shyte about the other road users :p
 
What is the general feeling about the Freelander 2? I know they aren't as bad as the Freelander 1, but in general are they reliable?
 
ponder said:
What's that?
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It's the motor that blends the hot and cold air for the climate control. They are prone to failure on the P38 Range Rovers.
Extreme mission to replace since you have to strip out most of the dash to get to them.

My Rangie :D
http://www.mybroadband.co.za/photos/showfull.php?photo=29773
http://www.mybroadband.co.za/photos/showfull.php?photo=27158
http://www.mybroadband.co.za/photos/showfull.php?photo=27154
http://www.mybroadband.co.za/photos...0997/title/range-rover-4-6-hse-vogue/cat/1057
 
Grimspoon said:
What is the general feeling about the Freelander 2? I know they aren't as bad as the Freelander 1, but in general are they reliable?
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They are completely different from the Freelander 1. I've only heard good things from them. The diesel version sounds like it gives over 14km/l :wtf:
 
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