Land rover off road ability

Naks said:
Anyone with a Landy can join the club
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Clearly not! Can't you see they are all just shills employed by Jaguar Land Rover to advertise? Just like that lot from the Jaguar club who organise occasional blasts around Killarney. All paid for by Her Majesty herself. ;)
 
dj_jyno said:
Clearly not! Can't you see they are all just shills employed by Jaguar Land Rover to advertise? Just like that lot from the Jaguar club who organise occasional blasts around Killarney. All paid for by Her Majesty herself. ;)
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See why I was suspicious? Obviously LR will make sure the vehicle they pick to go off road is ready and prepped. Thoroughly.
 
Ive seen many Land Rovers on a flatbed, so that must mean it's a good off roader.
 
Roman avril said:
So the discovery and defender are both capable, but I never see anyone take them on adventures except journalists testing them. Theyre prices overlap, both are expensive, and you could take a prado for similar money. What's the purpose of these cars?
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Landies have been built to be rugged and capable from day 1, Utilitarian simplicity & dependability were first on the scope as was the market in 48, this continued through to the defender in the 80's with a little modernization and comfort being added to cater to a larger market.

This recipe continued ever since, offload and utilitarian capabilities married with comfort, style, equipment, etc, etc added to cater for the middle class and upmarket customers.

The middle has since become the great majority of its customers with the Range Rover's worldwide success, although its offload capabilities are probably used once or twice a year by these customers for parking on the grass next to a parking space that hasn't made Land Rover reduce its priority on the scope, it's been among the best at this combination ever since.

TLDR: Best at both worlds in one.
 
BuckRogers said:
LR4 is fantastic off road, and the v8 petrol is a master on sand. LR5 still too new to know.
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The same v8 that had crankshaft issues? But I'll agree, I think the 4 is the last true land rover. The new one has been out long enough now. But its more a city car with offroad stuff than an offroader Definitely not a true successor. Or is it
 
Roman avril said:
That is stupid. Why buy something so big to pick up kids at school? Even a toyota Yaris can do that excellently
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Because its what they want, its Big, strong, comfy, fancy even fashionable and a status symbol all in one.

Could say the same about food, you don't need to eat tasty things to survive, you could just consume a paste with the required nutrition and get it over and done with. But where's the fun in that.
 
ArmatageShanks said:
Landies have been built to be rugged and capable from day 1, Utilitarian simplicity & dependability were first on the scope as was the market in 48, this continued through to the defender in the 80's with a little modernization and comfort being added to cater to a larger market.

This recipe continued ever since, offload and utilitarian capabilities married with comfort, style, equipment, etc, etc added to cater for the middle class and upmarket customers.

The middle has since become the great majority of its customers with the Range Rover's worldwide success, although its offload capabilities are probably used once or twice a year by these customers for parking on the grass next to a parking space that hasn't made Land Rover reduce its priority on the scope, it's been among the best at this combination ever since.

TLDR: Best at both worlds in one.
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It's not that I doubt their capabilities. But there's a reason owners will rather take an equally priced toyota offroad
 
Roman avril said:
It's not that I doubt their capabilities. But there's a reason owners will rather take an equally priced toyota offroad
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Its better at it yes, which is why it costs less, and also why it Only better at offloading and utility, nothing else.
 
Roman avril said:
The same v8 that had crankshaft issues? But I'll agree, I think the 4 is the last true land rover. The new one has been out long enough now. But its more a city car with offroad stuff than an offroader Definitely not a true successor. Or is it
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It was the diesel that had crank issues. V8 5.0 Petrol is the Jaguar engine. No issues there.
 
ArmatageShanks said:
Its better at it yes, which is why it costs less, and also why it Only better at offloading and utility, nothing else.
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The land cruiser prado and 300 are quite expensive honestly. No cheap thing. Luckily the Japanese don't offer options like zie germans
 
Roman avril said:
The land cruiser prado and 300 are quite expensive honestly. No cheap thing. Luckily the Japanese don't offer options like zie germans
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Its great value if that is what you are looking for though.

Reminds me of this stock Pajero that surprised everyone with what it could do here

 
BuckRogers said:
LR4 is fantastic off road, and the v8 petrol is a master on sand. LR5 still too new to know.
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Nothing wrong with LR5, it just looks too much like a Toyota, i.e., ****.

Roman avril said:
The same v8 that had crankshaft issues? But I'll agree, I think the 4 is the last true land rover. The new one has been out long enough now. But its more a city car with offroad stuff than an offroader Definitely not a true successor. Or is it
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No, it's the 3.0L S/TDV6 that is cranky.

BuckRogers said:
It was the diesel that had crank issues. V8 5.0 Petrol is the Jaguar engine. No issues there.
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Well, it does - the crossover coolant pipe, which is sandwiched between the engine and the supercharger. Not only does this location mean that the rubber tends to crack/perish over time, which can lead to a catastrophic meltdown, but it also has a stupid 3-prong connection, which again, tends to crack after a while.

I just had the pipe and water pump replaced on my RRS as a preventative measure (100,000km), and that cost R12k. Small price to pay every 100,000km imho.
 
But what are the differences between the discovery and defender? They look really similar under the body, but with different looks.
 
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