Latency is up...

I dont understand though, if this is a change to go through all dslams as spike said.. Why did mine change from interleave to fast path? That doesnt make sense if you ask me.

previous ping was exactly what you guys experience then dslam went down and back up and I had superb lower ping.
 
Clipse said:
I dont understand though, if this is a change to go through all dslams as spike said.. Why did mine change from interleave to fast path? That doesnt make sense if you ask me.
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How did you tell? I think client side reporting maybe funny cos yeah that makes no sense.

They should just make it so that gamers can set to "fast path" in the negotiation setting on the client side at least. Instead of enforcing interleave.
 
So if you want to use VoIP, you call up Telkomonopoly & ask them to put you on a gaming-DSLAM port bcos your online gaming pings are shot, it could work for about 5 minutes...:rolleyes:...and then Telkomonopoly's port shaping & packet inspection will kill your VoIP...
 
so me getting adsl for gaming was a total f#ckup!!!!
i used to get about 40-70(max) in cs source
no i havet seen lower than 99
that is f#ckall for the price that u pay for adsl
i think im gonna go back to 56K!!!
this is BULLS#!T
 
AFAIK you have to pay them Rx.xx for y months that remain on your contract, somewhere in the T&Czzz it mentions how this is calculated.
 
wamatt said:
How did you tell? I think client side reporting maybe funny cos yeah that makes no sense.

They should just make it so that gamers can set to "fast path" in the negotiation setting on the client side at least. Instead of enforcing interleave.
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It was pretty easy, for roughly 4months I had terrible ping but lived with it, hoping in "near" future it would drop to some lower latency. Then the one day my adsl and whole exchange here in durbanville area went kapoof(down) couple of hours of phonecalls trying to find out whats going on I was told they upgrading to provide access for more adsl users(wtf they actually upgrading and opening up for more users? Telkom working? Telkom spending money? NOO never)

After it went back up, my adsl dropped 2-3times lower latency to same hops tested before.
 
Half Life 2 Deathmatch is still playable for me at SAIX with 80ms ping. It's the only game I occasionally play online, but it still sucks how they can change things without warning.
 
I stay in the Fourways area also. My adsl was down from the 13th to 15th February. I was told that they needed to replace some 'card' in the exchange. I was glad to see my adsl back up and running but my latency has been greatly affected. My dsl is mainly used for gaming, and with this, my ms use to be 10 - 15 but is sitting at a constant 65 - 70. I will keep phoning Telkom, but the general response is that they dont have a clue to what the problem is...
 
lets organise a mass boycot of telkom by all gamers!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D
 
Sad Very Sad

Ditto to all the above with me (Midrand)

Ok so they dont guarantee ANYTHING...but

Must be the first and only company I know of that will sell you a Ferrari and after 2 years repossesses it (despite you not having skipped a payment) and then issue you with a Red Fiat Uno and TELL you its the same thing....

WTH is wrong with our toothless consumer protection department? (I think I just answered my own question).
 
or since it is a toll free number lets all call telkom adsl support
and complain about latecy for a couple of days!!!
 
There is no reason to switch all lines to interleaved. For a co-op term, while I was away from home, I got DSL just for fun because I'm a cable fan. I was 5.1 km from the exchange and they had me on a 1 Mb connection (standard is 3 Mb). However, I just couldn't browse, and max throughput I got was like 2 kb/sec. The reason for that was because of my distance and noise in the poor wiring of the house. After calling tech support, they offered to run a few tests, and I can then pick one I want.

The first one was a 1 Mb fast path connection (which I complained about). Poor quality.

Next was a 512 Kb fast path connection, which was better, but still high rate of packets being dropped.

Next, he bumped me to 1.5 Mb interleaved. Latency increased, but much better performance, but still not reliable enough.

Lastly, and this is the one I picked before canceling the service, was 1 Mb interleaved. It worked, but was too slow for me (I am used to much faster).

This was all done over a period of about 30 minutes on the phone. According to the techie, they only use interleave when the customer has a poor line, and/or is far far away from the exchange. Interleave is slower and has a higher latency, but can more readily deal with line noise and poor signal strengh (due to distance).

What Telkom doing is obviously not in your best interests. They're up to something.
 
I'm on the Rondebosch exchange in Cape Town, and am getting "normal" sub 12-ms pings to most local servers on the SAIX backbone. Uunet still seems to be suffering though:

Telkom unshaped
Tracing route to saix.net [196.25.1.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms wbs-165-20-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.165.20.1]
2 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms 196.43.23.10
3 10 ms 10 ms 11 ms wblv-ip-essr-1-atm-2-0-0-2.telkomipnet.co.za [196.43.11.30]
4 11 ms 11 ms 12 ms wblv-ip-www-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.1.200]

Telkom shaped
Tracing route to saix.net [196.25.1.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms wbs-146-128-01.telkomadsl.co.za [165.146.128.1]
2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms wbs-ip-er-1-fe-12-0-0-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.10.46]
3 11 ms 11 ms 10 ms wblv-ip-essr-1-atm-2-0-0-2.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.11.30]
4 13 ms 12 ms 11 ms wblv-ip-www-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.1.200]

Uunet uncapped
Tracing route to saix.net [196.25.1.200]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 109 ms 187 ms 202 ms atm4-0-0sub103.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.9.109]
3 109 ms 171 ms 93 ms pos8-1-0.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.121.157]
4 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ge0-0.br1.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.156.41]
5 171 ms 281 ms 406 ms other-side.atm6-0sub1.br1.jnb6.alter.net [196.31.39.53]
6 62 ms 62 ms 62 ms wblv-ip-essr-1-atm-2-0-0-2.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.43.11.30]
7 62 ms 62 ms 62 ms wblv-ip-www-1.telkom-ipnet.co.za [196.25.1.200]
 
look at your ping replies

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 109 ms 187 ms 202 ms atm4-0-0sub103.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.9.109]
3 109 ms 171 ms 93 ms pos8-1-0.gw11.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.121.157]
4 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms ge0-0.br1.jnb6.alter.net [196.30.156.41]
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Those hops returned a high ping, but they didnt add any latency - there is no problem (from your diagnostics that is)
 
Sure, but the total round trip time from first to last hop (total latency), which is what matters if it was a gaming server, is 62ms, compared to 12ms on the SAIX accounts.
 
Worrying

What Telkom doing is obviously not in your best interests. They're up to something.
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This is of concern.
What I expect is the same service I bought into 20 months ago. Seems the rules get changed at every corner.
This news is alarming.

As it is the service is slower than at its inception and that was cause for alarm. Now this added to it is starting to make my ADSL connection look like 56K. Where is the fairness in all of this?
The consumer us always the loser. Enough is enough.
We are already paying a premium for a degraded service and to be quite honest if my pings to play CS Source are degraded I am not going to be pleased. As it is I live a stone throw away from the exchange. Interleave Mode is not necessary unless, like Jerek stated, Telkom has an ulterior motive.
 
Can anyone confirm - with evidence - how interleave mode affects VOIP?

To me there can be a few reasons for the sudden change of ADSL modes:

1. Telkom is too cheap to roll out more exchanges (i.e. actually install more infrastructure :eek: ), and are using interleave to extend the reach of existing exchanges at minimal cost. Also interleave allows crappy lines to support ADSL, yet more reason to switch it on and save on upgrading poor lines.

2. Interleave is proven to disrupt VOIP, and as such provides a way for Telkom to actively prevent DSL users from using VOIP (since DSL users would be likely to use VOIP).

3. Telkom is technically crap at resolving issues. Interleave is shown to "cure" several problems, hence saving them $$ on technician salaries.

To me, if Telkom had an ulterior motive, it would be to disrupt VOIP...
 
The Telkomonopoly ulterior motive is to discourage people from using Skype or other VoIP.

I have just started this thread:

[post=166912]Requirements for SLAs (Service Level Agreements)[/post]

Let's do something about Telkomonopoly tinkering with & downgrading ADSL all the time.
 
This is F4%edup! Telskum wh0res!

Anyway, correct my if I am wrong, but changing between Fast & Interleaved is a matter of a setting and not a card swopout or something like that. If I remember correctly other countries can test your line in a couple of minutes time with speed & mode settings.

So why not give us the option between Fast & Interleaved (because telkom sux!)

Now, if I know some1 @ local telkom, can he maybe sort it out for me and change my (only mine) connection back to Fast?

Lemme know...
 
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