LCD and Plasma Bargains and Discussions thread

Seriously guys, the last thread was closed due to thread size by the looks of it, but also could the thread remain for bargains only, then a separate thread can be created for discussions, or perhaps the people have to just ask on a specific model?

The new thread title says "and discussions" In the previous closed thread I also asked to just post the actual bargain but PP thought it's better to change the heading so he can maintain his banter and livelihood.

For those that is made to believe the myth that Plasma burn in is a non issue. Why have all this pain. This confirms Dolby's experience he had with his ex plasma.

How Many Plasma Users Experience Burn-In?

In fact, not many. Recent technologies make modern plasma displays much more resistant to permanent image retention. A research sponsored by Pioneer Electronics demonstrates that leaving a static image for 48 hours did cause a clearly visible image retention on all three of their test plasmas, but running a movie loop for 24 hours removed all signs of the after-image.

However, it is still possible to burn a plasma if it is used to display static images, such as black side bars, for extended periods of time without varying viewing material. Channel or computer game logos are also likely lo leave an after-image.

PlasmaSaver DVD helps to prevent permanent image retention by running your plasma in full-screen mode in an infinite loop. It can be also used to wash out any signs of temporary image retention caused by the prolonged display of static images.


How Do I Prevent Burn-In?

It is rather simple to prevent the burn-in effect from occurring to your plasma.

Calibrate your display. It is difficult to overestimate the importance of this step. Most TVs come from the store with their brightness and contrast set way too high in order to show good in the display room. Get yourself AVIA or DVE (Digital Video Essentials) DVD, and you'll have a nicely calibrated set in less than 15 minutes.
Do not watch any 4:3 or 2.35:1 content during the first 100 hours of use. Most damage is done to the brand-new plasmas by inexperienced users. Plasmas are most susceptible to burn-in during the first 100 hours, and much more burn-in resistant after 1000 hours of use.
Restrict non-full-screen programming to 20% until 1000 hours. Plasma manufacturers also recommend limiting viewing of 4:3 or 2.35:1 programming to about 20% of overall viewing time after the first 100 hours and until 1000 hours. After that, your plasma is much less likely to take burn-in. Try watching 4:3 content in "stretched" or "fair" ("just") mode that fills the entire screen.
While your plasma is new, turn down the contrast (sometimes called "picture", which refers to white level, or the brightness of light areas of the picture). A new plasma TV is much more likely to take damage from displaying static elements such as logos or teletext. Reducing overall contrast (this controls white levels, and is called "picture" on some displays) helps reducing the possibility of those static elements to burn in.
Switch channels to avoid logo burn-in. Avoid extended viewing of broadcasts with non-transparent logos or where the screen is divided into fixed parts (such as teletext or weather reports) all the time. These logos or teletext lines may imprint into your plasma, causing burn-in.
Use grey bars instead of black. Some plasma displays allow using color bars instead of black for 4:3 programming. This may greatly reduce the burn-in effect.
Enable pixel shifting. Many plasmas offer pixel shifting, otherwise referred as "wobulation" technique, in order to reduce the effect of burn-in. Enabling this feature may decrease the effect of burn-in by "smoothing" the borders between bright and dark parts of the image. This feature alone will not prevent your display from burning in, however, because larger dark and bright parts of the screen will mostly remain where they are, thus causing an after-image with slightly blurred borders.
If your DVD player has a screen saver and auto-shutdown feature, turn it on. This helps a great deal saving you from burn-in resulting from paused movies (screen saver) or disk menus (auto-off).
If seeing early signs of image retention, run a screen saver on your plasma. New plasmas are likely to display non-permanent image retention after displaying a still image or a still element, such as a logo. Chances are great that this effect will disappear by itself after you watch a different channel (remember using full-screen "stretch" mode) for some time, or if you engage a special burn-in reduction screen saver, if your plasma has it. Please refer to your plasma documentation to find if your TV has a screen saver. Many plasmas don't have it.
Seems complicated? It is not! Here's the list once again:

While your plasma is new:

Reduce contrast
Avoid content that does not fill entire screen (leaves black bars) for the first 1000 hours
Switch channels from time to time
If seeing any signs of image retention, run a screen saver on your plasma
Always:

Use grey bars instead of black
On your plasma, keep pixel shifting enabled
On your DVD player, keep screen saver and auto-shutdown enabled
Calibrate your display to avoid unnecessary high brightness and co
 
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The new thread title says "and discussions" In the previous closed thread I also asked to just post the actual bargain but PP thought it's better to change the heading so he can maintain his banter and livelihood.

For those that is made to believe the myth that Plasma burn in is a non issue. Why have all this pain. This confirms Dolby's experience he had with his ex plasma.

My apologies, somehow though this was the bargains thread, we all know PP's stand let's just let live and let die on it, it's like convincing a die hard microsoft FB that Linux is better.
 
My apologies, somehow though this was the bargains thread, we all know PP's stand let's just let live and let die on it, it's like convincing a die hard microsoft FB that Linux is better.

I agree but postman is the one that bring everyone else's advise or information in disrepute, even in the 3D TV related posts yet he have no knowledge or experience in that area.

Anyway back on topic and let old dogs lie still.
 
I agree but postman is the one that bring everyone else's advise or information in disrepute, even in the 3D TV related posts yet he have no knowledge or experience in that area.

Anyway back on topic and let old dogs lie still.

Now that everyone has had their say let's get to some tv talk. What is the current largest LCD tv offered at a reasonable price in SA..? I have seen some 55" ones but are those the largest..?
 
Now that everyone has had their say let's get to some tv talk. What is the current largest LCD tv offered at a reasonable price in SA..? I have seen some 55" ones but are those the largest..?

There are two things that do not play well together in SA and that would be "Largest TV" and "reasonable cost". Then the best would be to go plasma with the required precautions or a decent projector (expensive).

The largest LED locally is the 60" but be prepared to pay a premium price.

http://www.dionwired.co.za/audio-visual/tv-dvd-satellite/televisions-1.html

For a TV that size you may get a better price deal I think from the smaller more dedicated shops like Cats Digital etc where you can negotiate.
 
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As I said explain the other open threads with double the post counts. You still do not accept that your repetitive banters with everyone with a different view are the actual cause of the thread closures. Poor you.

Yet there are shorter threads that have been closed. The reason for the thread closures you ironically refer to is from people who can't handle others and their opinions so resort to trolling, personal/ad-hominem attacks, destroying the thread, etc. like you are now and did in the previous threads leading to their closure. :p ;) Shame, you should try just helping people, instead of being such a Negative Nancy. :D
 
Dolby was a plasma owner and he explained why he sold it, mostly due to the plasma image persistence and valid fears about burn in, and why he is now much happier with an LED due to various advantages and very very good blacks, Yet you refuse to acknowledge his views and even had arguments with him. We also gave proof that the myth that the problem is solved is non existent. The plasma manufacturers use special algorithms to reduce or counter the problem, like by using pixel shifting but the burn in problem is not "solved".

Eh? What's this got to do with Dolby and why are you acting on his behalf, and making up stuff about me refusing to acknowledge? Nonsense, I agree with Dolby on just about everything? Seriously off topic banter. Wow you cannot post a single post without trolling. ;) :D
 
The new thread title says "and discussions" In the previous closed thread I also asked to just post the actual bargain but PP thought it's better to change the heading so he can maintain his banter and livelihood.

Na, it's just what always happens - people discuss things. The Bargains thread always served both purposes.

For those that is made to believe the myth that Plasma burn in is a non issue. Why have all this pain. This confirms Dolby's experience he had with his ex plasma.

His 4 year old plasma would have surely been more susceptible to IR and burn. We're talking 2011 though, modern stuff with improved anti burn tech which as reported and experienced works great as a PC screen. I still prefer LCD though.

Could you try posting without faffing about Dolby and I every time it's getting a bit ridiculous lol.
 
My apologies, somehow though this was the bargains thread, we all know PP's stand let's just let live and let die on it, it's like convincing a die hard microsoft FB that Linux is better.

What's my stand? And what has it got to do with anything in this thread up until is got derailed?

P.S. I own:

Plasma, TN LCD, IPS LCD, PVA LCD.

So tell me? ;)
 
I agree but postman is the one that bring everyone else's advise or information in disrepute, even in the 3D TV related posts yet he have no knowledge or experience in that area.

Anyway back on topic and let old dogs lie still.

Lol still bleating about a 3 month pre new firmware thread.
 
Now that everyone has had their say let's get to some tv talk. What is the current largest LCD tv offered at a reasonable price in SA..? I have seen some 55" ones but are those the largest..?

Definitely nothing bigger than 55". :(

R16k-R18k Samsung PS59D550 is a killer offer though and besides leaving static images displaying regularly there are absolutely no precautions necessary, even when using PC Mode. Let the owners of modern plasma speak for themselves. :)

Also the LG 60" for R15,595 I mentioned in the OP seems like an excellent deal.

It's funny how Samsung have the 43" and 51" with LG having 42 and 50". Now LG beats Samsung by 1" with their 60" vs Sammy 59". :D

Could anyone comment on the JVC 55" LED-LCD with a PC? Could be a good option.
 
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I'm not denying anything bigger exists, I'm denying their prices are reasonable! :p

I already gave that answer in my response so was not sure what you were trying to say, one never knows :p. Also its not all about inches (unless...) you have to also look at the quality and specifications. ;)

Selective reading much? You forgot his last question :p

Now that everyone has had their say let's get to some tv talk. What is the current largest LCD tv offered at a reasonable price in SA..? I have seen some 55" ones but are those the largest..?
 
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I already gave that answer in my response so was not sure what you were trying to say, one never knows :p. Also its not all about inches (unless...) you have to also look at the quality and specifications. ;)

Selective reading much? You forgot his last question :p

"Ones" means "some that were large and reasonable". There's nothing larger that's reasonable. I'm pretty sure any layman would know larger than 55" LCDs exist. :erm:
 
"Ones" means "some that were large and reasonable". There's nothing larger that's reasonable. I'm pretty sure any layman would know larger than 55" LCDs exist. :erm:

Whatever tickles your fancy and gives you a woody mate!:p
 
You guys crack me up :D
Now just need to wait for for that 59" Sammy to near R16k again so I can jump on it!
 
:wtf:

Stop already.

Sure!

ROFL! :D:D P.S. the other thread got closed by wily me. ;) Same thing you're doing here! ;)


Yeah, if you carry on your antics just like you are here, just like in that thread leading to its closure, making invalid troll comments based on your misunderstanding of the forum's ways (no one got the original thread closed). But of course it's your intention to talk thrash and inevitably close threads, shifting the blame to others to excuse your intentional behaviour and thrash talking. ;) ;)
 
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