LCD/led/plasma specials

wily me said:
You will have this thread closed down in no time with such comments and attitude. We will all be glad if you stop punting plasma's and make people feel "for the worse" because they did not follow your recommendation and were advised by a salesman that the additional features and more modern technology on the TV is worth the buy.

As I said YOU already shut down two very good threads.
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The comments and attitude stem from you. It would be far more beneficial removing that sort of douche-like attitude, opposed to locking a thread created to help others.

I punt LCDs and plasmas, depending on the specific person's situation. I own both, like both. The fact that you harp on about me only punting plasmas shows you clearly misunderstand my position.

Kindly leave me alone and add me to your ignore list. Don't respond to my posts, especially when you can't handle the flac when all are in agreement (i.e disagreement with you). Don't spew misinformation about TVs or other people.
 
marine1 said:
Sorry which one? I am looking at the following.
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Dude, which ever you want. Following the course of discussion though, which is what I do, that would be the PS43D450 and UA40D5500. Not so?

Pasting product specs is unnecessary. Please type out and elaborate on:

Power consumption
Size
Features

Basically, you've failed to explain the salesman's opinion and your understanding/agreement of it, leaving me very confused. Others too, I'm quite sure.
 
marine1 said:
Sorry which one? I am looking at the following.
SAMSUNG LED 40" D5500 R6,799.00

SAMSUNG PLASMA 51" D550 R8,099.00
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FDW don't seem to have the cheaper D5000 in stock, so will have to be the D5500. Obviously the D550 plasma is a better TV, but I thought you would have a problem even fitting a 43", so that would exclude the PS51D550?

BTW if you're into media servers etc. the one good use for the SmartHub functionality on the D5500 is to run the Plex client on it. Plex is LAN client-server fork of the popular XBMC media server, check here.
 
wily me said:
Here is your first hand making

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/306685-General-Plasma-amp-LCD-discussions

Note the locked thread?


The topic says LCD/led/plasma specials not "The PP Plasma TV punting special thread"
That seems the problem and that is you base your "expertise" on what you own, prior to 2010 technology. It's time you read up more and keep yourself up to date.
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Your attitude is astounding. Absolute nonsense.

Show which discussions led to locking.

Takes two to tango. Remove yourself if you don't want this thread locked from your own doing.

Gotta run, I'll be back later to play.
 
PostmanPot said:
Dude, which ever you want. Following the course of discussion though, which is what I do, that would be the PS43D450 and UA40D5500. Not so?

Pasting product specs is unnecessary. Please type out and elaborate on:

Power consumption
Size
Features

Basically, you've failed to explain the salesman's opinion and your understanding/agreement of it, leaving me very confused. Others too, I'm quite sure.
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Look unfortunately I have very limited knowledge in this field. :) I am trying to find out the best option for me based on price and features, power consumption etc.
So basically what I can see is that the LED is cheaper but yes it is smaller.
It has better "resolution" ? HD ready vs HD full.
50hz vs 100 hz although based on what you guys have explained that may be a negative.
Wireless Lan and wired Lan.

Again unfortunately I am not in a position to argue as I have limited knowledge on this :(
Rand for Rand, it looks to me like the LED is more bang for buck, around the 7k mark
 
Roman4604 said:
FDW don't seem to have the cheaper D5000 in stock, so will have to be the D5500. Obviously the D550 plasma is a better TV, but I thought you would have a problem even fitting a 43", so that would exclude the PS51D550?

BTW if you're into media servers etc. the one good use for the SmartHub functionality on the D5500 is to run the Plex client on it. Plex is LAN client-server fork of the popular XBMC media server, check here.
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I am now looking at any size, :D, I will cut the roof if need be :D
 
marine1 said:
Look unfortunately I have very limited knowledge in this field. :) I am trying to find out the best option for me based on price and features, power consumption etc.
So basically what I can see is that the LED is cheaper but yes it is smaller.
It has better "resolution" ? HD ready vs HD full.
50hz vs 100 hz although based on what you guys have explained that may be a negative.
Wireless Lan and wired Lan.

Again unfortunately I am not in a position to argue as I have limited knowledge on this :(
Rand for Rand, it looks to me like the LED is more bang for buck, around the 7k mark
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For that price you can get an 46" LCD FHD and a 43" Plasma, the LED isn't really bang for buck actually, especially since the LCD will use at most 175watts (all settings max) and the plasma around 250, yes they will never hit the sub 100watts of the LED but the saving for the size impact warrants the extra R30 (at most) a month on electricity.
 
Lupus, the 43" Plasma, they say is not great, entry level and for that price it must be. The next option is quite a large jump in price, one wonders why. All of these are HD Ready only. The one to look at is the one for 8k, thats out of my price range.
On the LED's, they seem to have better "engines" and better and more features for around the 6k mark. I still agree that the Plasma for 8k will be better but I am not prepared to pay an extra 2k
 
marine1 said:
Lupus, the 43" Plasma, they say is not great, entry level and for that price it must be.
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You do realise people on this forum have bought the PS43D450 based on being put it up against LA40D550's and UA40D5000's, under the correct viewing conditions and distances applicable to them, displaying SD and HD, and chosen the plasma?

I do not deny the LA's and UA's will look better under bright shop lighting (and in bright rooms).

It's incredible what a Full HD label can do. It really is.

Resolution is irrelevant from far distances. They say 1m from a 32", 1.5 40", and 2m from a 50" for the full Full HD experience. http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/13804/title/resolution-chart/cat/900

You're sitting at 5 meters!

And it's in a darker room (bedroom)!

Don't know how else to explain. :)

Hell, did the salesman even ask about your:

1) Content
2) Lighting conditions
3) Viewing distance

?! :confused:
 
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PostmanPot said:
You do realise people on this forum have bought the PS43D450 based on being put it up against LA40D550's and UA40D5000's, under the correct viewing conditions, displaying SD and HD, and chosen the plasma?

It's incredible what a Full HD label can do. It really is.
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Yip, I would really agree with you there.
 
Okay so you looking at max 8k but preferably around 6k? Yes to be honest the sales guy is going to say that, and he is partially correct, the LED's do seem to have the better engines etc... But this doesn't count out the normal LCD and the plasma from the running, you are sitting from 5m away so the difference from 1024x768 and 1920x1080 isn't going to be helluva noticeable to be honest, remember when you used to sit and watch a 54cm TV did it seem blurry?
Also the features on the LED's are generally fluff, like SmartTV so you can browse the internet and youtube from your TV etc, the media player capabilities I've seen on LCD's are great too, they handle most formats with no issues, not sure on the Plasma's I've not had one to play with since 2008.
Colours on the LED and the Plasma might even be close, the LCD will lose the battle there but not by much anymore (unless you go for a bargain LCD). Blacks the Plasma wins normally, the LED and then the LCD, motion also between the Plasma and the LED, though the LCD isn't as bad as people will have you believe, it's more response times then refresh rates anyway.
But at the end of the day man it is down to your own wallet and preferences, you do need to look at it, but you will also be over the moon with what ever you purchase anyway.
LED - I am referring to the normal edge-lit LED LCD's.
 
marine1 said:
Look unfortunately I have very limited knowledge in this field. :) I am trying to find out the best option for me based on price and features, power consumption etc.
So basically what I can see is that the LED is cheaper but yes it is smaller.
It has better "resolution" ? HD ready vs HD full.
50hz vs 100 hz although based on what you guys have explained that may be a negative.
Wireless Lan and wired Lan.

Again unfortunately I am not in a position to argue as I have limited knowledge on this :(
Rand for Rand, it looks to me like the LED is more bang for buck, around the 7k mark
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It's not 100Hz!

See how easy it is to succumb to marketing gimmick and salesmen?

UAxxD5xxx is 50Hz. Marketed as 100 CMR. Damn them.

Besides, you wouldn't use 100Hz for movies (what you told us you wanted to watch).
 
PostmanPot said:
I do not deny the LA's and UA's will look better under bright shop lighting (and in bright rooms).

It's incredible what a Full HD label can do. It really is.

Resolution is irrelevant from far distances. They say 1m from a 32", 1.5 40", and 2m from a 50" for the full Full HD experience. http://mybroadband.co.za/photos/showphoto.php/photo/13804/title/resolution-chart/cat/900

You're sitting at 5 meters!

And it's in a darker room (bedroom)!

Don't know how else to explain. :)

Hell, did the salesman even ask about your:

1) Content
2) Lighting conditions
3) Viewing distance

?! :confused:
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I am listening to you guys and am really trying to make an informed decision. It really looks like the 51 Plasma is the way to go but that price :(
 
Lupus said:
Okay so you looking at max 8k but preferably around 6k? Yes to be honest the sales guy is going to say that, and he is partially correct, the LED's do seem to have the better engines etc... But this doesn't count out the normal LCD and the plasma from the running, you are sitting from 5m away so the difference from 1024x768 and 1920x1080 isn't going to be helluva noticeable to be honest, remember when you used to sit and watch a 54cm TV did it seem blurry?
Also the features on the LED's are generally fluff, like SmartTV so you can browse the internet and youtube from your TV etc, the media player capabilities I've seen on LCD's are great too, they handle most formats with no issues, not sure on the Plasma's I've not had one to play with since 2008.
Colours on the LED and the Plasma might even be close, the LCD will lose the battle there but not by much anymore (unless you go for a bargain LCD). Blacks the Plasma wins normally, the LED and then the LCD, motion also between the Plasma and the LED, though the LCD isn't as bad as people will have you believe, it's more response times then refresh rates anyway.
But at the end of the day man it is down to your own wallet and preferences, you do need to look at it, but you will also be over the moon with what ever you purchase anyway.
LED - I am referring to the normal edge-lit LED LCD's.
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Very interesting post, thanks for taking the time to explain it. Jeeesh you really get the wrong info from the manufacturers, they come out with all this mumbo jumbo which in reality means crap
 
marine1 said:
Lupus, the 43" Plasma, they say is not great, entry level and for that price it must be. The next option is quite a large jump in price, one wonders why. All of these are HD Ready only. The one to look at is the one for 8k, thats out of my price range.
On the LED's, they seem to have better "engines" and better and more features for around the 6k mark. I still agree that the Plasma for 8k will be better but I am not prepared to pay an extra 2k
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IMHO the fact that you mentioned that you are more interested in HD movies then for R6K you have a many options. The best would be to look at the later 2011 models. I just acquired the Sony 32CX520 for R4000.00 and I am chuffed with the quality and performance. The reason for the decision was firstly they had stock available to carry out (the Sammy 550's were out). I wanted low input lag for gaming as first price. The HD picture quality is very good and the build in USB and Ethernet ports was an added bonus.

The salesman gave you good advice about the technology. Think about it. If you are not sure then maybe talk to some smaller expert shop like "Sounds Great" for expert advice. Then salesman salary arguments cannot be a criteria. They will advise the best unit for your budget and requirements. Just do not get steamrolled in something you would regret later.
 
marine1 said:
Very interesting post, thanks for taking the time to explain it. Jeeesh you really get the wrong info from the manufacturers, they come out with all this mumbo jumbo which in reality means crap
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I agree. Well written post indeed.
 
I am also torn between the Samsung LED D6000 and Samsung Plasma D550.

The nice thing about the plasma is that it's 51'', while the LED is 46'' .... and when it comes to 3D, bigger is always better. :)

However, when I look at the two, the D6000 simply looks better to me. Like Roman said, you can also go for the D6600, but if you have a PS3 and PowerDVD 11 on your pc, you can already stream music, pictures and videos, so don't need the built-in wifi and web browser of the D6600.

The D6000 is lower on power use, much lighter than the PS550 and does not act like a mirror in your house.

Very difficult decision to make, but I think the D6000 will be my choice in the end.
 
Maybe I should wait a while, as LG has just announced their 2012 HDTV line-up.....so difficult to decide. :(

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