letter to tenant

[Willie Trombone]

I have customers (not tenants) who've called me all sorts of things. It happens. People lose their sh*t. But the professional response is surely the same whether it's a hair salon or a rental property: you, as the capital/business owner just stay cool, get to the root of the issue, fix it. I've had customers then apologise for being over the top, even though the issue was ultimately my fault.

I get it, the worst tenants can make life a misery and you'd rather ask they take their business elsewhere. I'm just not sure there are as many as the worst landlords' stories would imply.

Agree, though only the OP can honestly attest to whether that's the case here or not.

 

[saturnz]

The adversarial thinking might also be part of the problem. Tenants aren't friends or enemies, just customers.

I agree you should feel free to part ways. My heart doesn't bleed for your tenants. With trust gone, it's over for sure. But trust is built in business, as much as business is built on trust.

Assuming that you wouldn't do anything differently next time, then why stay invested at all? With the negative experiences and effort and costs you shouldn't have to pay, and with contingent liabilities that depress your yield, and knowing it's bound to happen again... are you even enjoying yourself?

you are simply trolling, you already said your opinion won't change even if given new information. As you have proven, no matter what I say you selectively see what you wish to see so that it suits your existing narrative, sort of like what splinter and my existing tenant does. You even create your own facts with your assumptions.

so you can type as much as you want, I'm not going to take you seriously

 

[Tomtomtom]

you are simply trolling, you already said your opinion won't change even if given new information. As you have proven, no matter what I say you selectively see what you wish to see so that it suits your existing narrative, sort of like what splinter and my existing tenant does. You even create your own facts with your assumptions.

I was about to ask whether I could expect my letter now, and then you added the bolded bit. Perfect. I rest my case. Good luck!

 

[saturnz]

I was about to ask whether I could expect my letter now, and then you added the bolded bit. Perfect. I rest my case. Good luck!

luck is not a concept I believe in, the fact that you do says alot

 

[AstroTurf]

Did you get a reply?

 

[Seriously]

I was about to ask whether I could expect my letter now, and then you added the bolded bit. Perfect. I rest my case. Good luck!

Thank goodness.

 

[saturnz]

Did you get a reply?

I am not expecting a response, that was not the intent of the mail.

I have an appointment with my lawyer first thing tomorrow morning though, just to make sure I have all my ducks in a row so to speak.

 

[Willie Trombone]

I am not expecting a response, that was not the intent of the mail.

I have an appointment with my lawyer first thing tomorrow morning though, just to make sure I have all my ducks in a row so to speak.

Let us know how that goes.

 

[Dave]

so I will be sending this mail to my tenant tomorrow

Hi Sir-Mix-Alot

Please find attached the municipal bill of which R476 is for your account.

Also considering the incident on the 16th February 2017, where I found myself without notice litigating against your wife and daughter, the lease will no longer be renewed and will terminate on the 30th June 2017.


Nevertheless, since nothing good will come from litigating here, a formal notice as per the lease agreement will be issued but I hope this communication will be sufficient for you to find a suitable alternative premises in a timeous fashion.

rather sad way to terminate things as he paid the rent on time etc and I sincerely thought things were going well as evidenced by the email communication and his willingness to renew

Out of interest, why have you described the interaction as litigating? It's seems a strange choice of word for what isn't litigation...

 

[saturnz]

Out of interest, why have you described the interaction as litigating? It's seems a strange choice of word for what isn't litigation...

when there is a dispute it essentially will take on the legal form of litigation if no agreement is ever reached before court proceedings

the implication is also that I do not wish to argue, if he feels he has a valid position, he must go to the tribunal where an independent third party can rule on the matter

 

[Dave]

when there is a dispute it essentially will take on the legal form of litigation if no agreement is ever reached before court proceedings

So how is the argument at the house between you and the people litigation?

You seem to have a funny idea of what constitutes litigation, neither your argument at the house nor your email are litigating.

Litigation may follow if the dispute goes down legal channels, but it isn't anything of the sort at this stage.

 

[saturnz]

So how is the argument at the house between you and the people litigation?

You seem to have a funny idea of what constitutes litigation, neither your argument at the house nor your email are litigating.

Litigation may follow if the dispute goes down legal channels, but it isn't anything of the sort at this stage.

the point is I want it to reach that stage since I have no intent of arguing with fools

if he feels strongly the word litigation is inappropriate, he can argue that in his submission to the tribunal if he so chooses

we can argue over semantics all day, he is still leaving my property

 

[crackersa]

the point is I want it to reach that stage since I have no intent of arguing with fools

if he feels strongly the word litigation is inappropriate, he can argue that in his submission to the tribunal if he so chooses

we can argue over semantics all day, he is still leaving my property

 

[Dave]

the point is I want it to reach that stage since I have no intent of arguing with fools

if he feels strongly the word litigation is inappropriate, he can argue that in his submission to the tribunal if he so chooses

we can argue over semantics all day, he is still leaving my property

Except you make yourself look the fool using the wrong word which would be noticeable to even a person with just a high school education or access to a dictionary.

It looks like you tried to make your email look a little more legal than it was but failed because you don't know what the word means.

Look at the definition:

litigate
ˈlɪtɪɡeɪt/
verb
gerund or present participle: litigating

resort to legal action to settle a matter; be involved in a lawsuit.
"the plaintiff is prepared to litigate"
take (a claim or a dispute) to a law court.
"even a claim which is litigated and defended successfully involves high legal costs"

And try and explain (even to yourself) how you were "litigating" with the mother and daughter at the house.

 

[saturnz]

Except you make yourself look the fool using the wrong word which would be noticeable to even a person with just a high school education or access to a dictionary.

It looks like you tried to make your email look a little more legal than it was but failed because you don't know what the word means.

Look at the definition:



And try and explain (even to yourself) how you were "litigating" with the mother and daughter at the house.

is arguing a dispute?

 

[Dave]

is arguing a dispute?

if the arguing or dispute involved a court case it would be litigation.

You know when you have an argument about a parking space at the supermarket it's just an argument, not litigation.

It's a bit late now, but you look the uneducated fool using big words to look all legal and superior and crashing and burning when your use of those words is totally inappropriate.

 

[saturnz]

if the arguing or dispute involved a court case it would be litigation.

You know when you have an argument about a parking space at the supermarket it's just an argument, not litigation.

It's a bit late now, but you look the uneducated fool using big words to look all legal and superior and crashing and burning when your use of those words is totally inappropriate.

the relationship between my tenant and myself is dictated by a legal contract, there is no legal contract when arguing about a parking space. If the matter does end up in court proceedings, the same facts will be tabled. In substance I feel the word is actually relevant, but obviously in your opinion you disagree, which you are entitled to do, but you can move on now.

and he will be crashing and burning out of my house, thats all that matters, the final result

 

[Seriously]

Except you make yourself look the fool
Snip the kark

What does that have to do with the original issue?

Go play on a school ground with your dictionary

You seem to be what you call others.

 

[Tomtomtom]

And try and explain (even to yourself) how you were "litigating" with the mother and daughter at the house.

Read the whole thread, and it should be obvious that this is an adversarial landlord, who assumes the worst in tenants, gets the expected outcome, spends quite a lot of the tenants' money on lawyers, and perhaps even enjoys himself in the process.

His misuse of the word litigation is germane only insofar as it hints at the underlying issues.

 

[Dave]

What does that have to do with the original issue?

Go play on a school ground with your dictionary

Other than for feedback why would he have posted his email on this open public forum?

Why don't you stick your dictionary in your dark safe space...