LG 2D to 3D tv

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Mr_Bee said:
Because it doesn't flicker - even if I say it a 1000 times you will not hear. LG Pasive TV is certified 1080p per eye, and certified flicker free. It doesn't make you sick - its better - get it? No - Why??? I rest my case.
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Thought it was 1080i per eye? :confused:
 
PostmanPot said:
That's one site. When I read others, they say different things. They also mention resolution differences. :confused:
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PostmanPot said:
Thought it was 1080i per eye? :confused:
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Again you just demonstrate your stubborn attitude and lack of willingness to learn or comprehend any information given to you. Again this TV tread (another) ends up in a PP trolling saga.
 
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wily me said:
Links to the tests/comparisons please. Sorry to say I just cannot trust or take your advise and "recommendations" seriously the way you demonstrated your plasma bias and lack of knowledge about the latest tv developments on this forum.
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I don't understand why I need to produce tests/comparisons to justify someone's observations after they compared with their own eyes and made their decision out of their preference? Plenty forumites have done the comparisons which led to their decisions, which also depends on the content they view. It's all been detailed here over the years and even recently.

In my case, comparing cheaper 4 Series plasma vs more expensive 5 Series LCD directly. Then, with other LCDs from LG and Sony in the similar price range (entry level) which my mates own. And then my mates coming to me and commenting on the superior PQ of my plasma.

Entry plasma produces a richer picture with better colours and blacks, I observed this for the umpteenth time on Sunday. Watched a few hours of HD cricket on my PS42C450, then went to mates with a KDL46EX520 and watched another few hours. Incredible difference, really.

I would have to spent twice the amount of my plasma on a decent enough LCD to rival the PQ.
 
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wily me said:
Again you just demonstrate your stubborn attitude and lack of willingness to learn or comprehend any information given to you. Again this TV tread (another) ends up in a PP trolling saga.
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Right, so it's cut and dried because of the link you posted and its claims...

Admirable willingness to teach.

Oh, harp on about something else already, it's a forum, deal with it.
 
PostmanPot said:
I don't understand why I need to produce tests/comparisons to justify someone's observations after they compared with their own eyes and made their decision out of their preference? Plenty forumites have done the comparisons which led to their decisions, which also depends on the content they view. It's all been detailed here over the years and even recently.

In my case, comparing cheaper 4 Series plasma vs more expensive 5 Series LCD directly. Then, with other LCDs from LG and Sony in the similar price range (entry level) which my mates own. And then my mates coming to me and commenting on the superior PQ of my plasma.

Entry plasma produces a richer picture with better colours and blacks, I observed this for the umpteenth time on Sunday. Watched a few hours of HD cricket on my PS42C450, then went to mates with a KDL46EX520 and watched another few hours. Incredible difference, really. I would have to spent twice the amount of my plasma on a decent enough LCD to rival the PQ.
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As I said, all about your own opinion. No facts. This thread is about 3D TV's not to justify your now outdated technology in your lounge. Sorry to say you just confirmed my previous posts.

Also it's a fact you demonstrated and admitted you know nothing about 3D TV's or the latest technology

Cheers.
 
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wily me said:
As I said, all about your own opinion. No facts. This thread is about 3D TV's not to justify your now outdated technology in your lounge. Sorry to say you just confirmed my previous posts.

Also it's a fact you demonstrated and admitted you know nothing about 3D TV's or the latest technology

Cheers.
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You led to yourself away from the interests of the OP to asking for it, now I'm in the wrong. Everyone else who has bought Series 4 plasma has observed the same things. Even those that ended up taking LCD. Anyway, that's OT.

I've indeed admitted it, that's why I'm trying to learn. And I'm sure others too, including the OP.

Forgive me for not understanding how one website (opinion) proves that LG passive 3D is better than Samsung active 3D. :confused:
 
PostmanPot said:
You led to yourself away from the interests of the OP to asking for it, now I'm in the wrong.
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OH FFS, let's see who started OT.

PostmanPot said:
What about the disadvantages?
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No further comments as PP went on his 3D resolution trolling.

Here is feedback from an very informative unbiased person about his Plasma 3D TV compared to many other TV's. As this was before the latest improvements of the LG firmware that means the 3D performance have further improved since then with the now LG 3D cinema LED series TV's.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1825421/all

Crosstalk/Ghosting Performance: refer to this post; http://www.avforums.com/forums/3d-plasma-t...3d-tv-test.html

With Nvidia 3D Vision Player or PS3 Console (uses 3D MPO image); setting set to 720p@60Hz
Left eye open/right closed -> top half screen smaller visible number -> 1
Left eye open/right closed -> bottom half screen smaller visible number -> 11
Right eye open/left closed -> top half screen smaller visible number -> 11
Right eye open/left closed -> bottom half screen smaller visible number -> 1

My opinion, the 3D performance on this TV is not really that good. It just acceptable under this setting. Under this setting, no significant crosstalk is noticeable, I dont get a headache, and I enjoy the picture quality. I was hoping under this setting I'll get measurement as below
Left eye open/right closed -> top half screen smaller visible number -> 1
Left eye open/right closed -> bottom half screen smaller visible number -> more than 20
Right eye open/left closed -> top half screen smaller visible number -> more than 20
Right eye open/left closed -> bottom half screen smaller visible number -> 1

To get to the above setting, I need to reduce the cell light, brightness and contract. and decreases the gamma. By doing that, the picture quality degrade.. So, i'll stick to my preferred 3D setting.

3D impression.
Crosstalk and Ghosting is still an issues. After a quick shop 3D test, plasma crosstalk/ghosting is the least noticeable compare to its LCD/LED counterpart. Will it be resolved... hopefully in 2012, and I do hope manufacturer will increase the refresh rate of 3D glasses to 240hz.
Other 3D technology to look forward is the 3D ZScreen technology (http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/04/samsung-reald-announce-rdz-tech-that-puts-active-shutter-3d-int/)
Thinking to get a new 3D tv... why dont wait after Apr 2011, this is the time where 3D TV price will be very very competitive since most majpr player will completely release most of their new 3DTV model.
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PostmanPot said:
You led to yourself away from the interests of the OP to asking for it, now I'm in the wrong. Everyone else who has bought Series 4 plasma has observed the same things. Even those that ended up taking LCD. Anyway, that's OT.

I've indeed admitted it, that's why I'm trying to learn. And I'm sure others too, including the OP.

Forgive me for not understanding how one website (opinion) proves that LG passive 3D is better than Samsung active 3D. :confused:
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Its easy - there's a difference to being certified (LG) and not certified (The others), but alas your beliefs wouldn't buy that. Beliefs, beliefs beliefs...:whistle:
 
Roman4604 said:
While Ray Soneira of Displaymate is well respected in the TV industry, there are others equally respected such as CNET's David Katzmaier, who disagree with his views on active vs passive 3D. See David's response here ... http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20102018-1/study-finds-passive-3d-tvs-superior-to-active/
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Yes I also like his reviews but that said the only reason he gave for his views was
After reading the report I had a healthier respect for passive 3D than I had before, but it didn't change my mind. I don't think that will happen until they can figure out a way to get rid of those jaggies.
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His methods are also just by viewing mostly, so very subjective. His disagreement was also very moot.


Here's a quote from my review of the LG LW5600, regarding watching the "Tron: Legacy" 3D Blu-ray:
In many scenes we could see jagged edges along visible lines, for example along the edge of Gem's outfit, the back of the receding girl's suit and the lit circle in the distance (28:11), or the diagonal lines on the floor of the arena (39:04). The effect was worse and more distracting when movement caused the jagged edges to crawl, as they did during a quick pan over the glowing Frisbee fight (33:40) and the arena (42:04) for example. Moiré artifacts were also relatively common, for example in the crawling lines of Alan's tie in Chapter 3 (16:30) and the patterned floor in Chapter 5 (28:22).
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The DisplayMate article, on the other hand, says, "jagged line artifacts are barely noticeable unless you are searching for them." Some amount of TV reviewing does involve searching for artifacts (think of us reviewers as archaeologists!) but I noticed these jagged edges the first time I saw passive 3D TV in action, at the Vizio booth at CES, and I find it difficult to un-see them.
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I do like this one for PP tho, I hope he takes time to read it but I doubt!
The good: The picture of the Sharp Elite PRO-X5FD LED TV delivers deeper black levels and better contrast than any other LCD or plasma on the market. Unlike other full-array local dimming TVs, it maintains its superior picture from normal viewing angles and blooming artifacts are virtually nonexistent. Color is relatively accurate, shadow detail is excellent and video processing does everything we expect. The screen maintains black levels well under ambient light. No-nonsense styling, best-ever energy efficiency and a nearly-complete feature set, including two pairs of 3D glasses, ice the cake tastefully.
The bad: Even with its superb performance, it's impossible to call the gratuitously expensive Elite a good value. Blue/green areas are less accurate than we expect from a TV of this caliber, uniformity and off-angle aren't quite as good as plasma, and its screen creates relatively bright reflections.
The bottom line: The overpriced Sharp Elite LED-based LCD produces the best overall picture quality of any TV we've reviewed since 2008.


Read more: http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-...0x5fd/4505-6482_7-35004013.html#ixzz1kODJMJ7t
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Out of interest do they make any of these tv's in 32" or what is the smallest size available?.. Im looking to replace a 32" atm and i wouldnt mind something 3d. Otherwise, whats the price of a 40"?.. thanks
 
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