Linux Certified Laptop in SA

Let me just say that it is not very good value. 4 Cell, i3, 2GB of RAM as entry level of R6444.

No wai, spec that laptop decently and then you still have a Mecer laptop with no OS. I would rather shop around and sit on my hand until I can't feel it than purchase this.
 
I think that the basic machine is not that bad, but I will rather spec a faster CPU, more RAM. I am so thankful that there is no OS on it. Linux is free, this is a Linux forum, not a Windows one. Why buy a Windows machine and then run Linux? This machine has a 17" screen, hence the high basic price.

Mecer = Clevo = good quality at a reasonable price. They are more reliable than the junk HP sells. system 76; are these reliable and affordable? who manufactures it? Clevo is not an assembler but a manufacturer. They are one of a few whose machines get rebranded under popular brand names. System 76 is most likely just a rebranded machine from one of the four or five manufacturers.
 
MacLindroid said:
Why buy a Windows machine and then run Linux?
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Sometimes it is cheaper to buy the machine with a Windows license than without. It could also improve the machine's resale value.
MacLindroid said:
Mecer = Clevo = good quality at a reasonable price.
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I cannot believe you used "Mecer" and "good quality" in the same sentence.
 
MacLindroid said:
Mecer = Clevo = good quality at a reasonable price. They are more reliable than the junk HP sells. system 76; are these reliable and affordable? who manufactures it? Clevo is not an assembler but a manufacturer. They are one of a few whose machines get rebranded under popular brand names. System 76 is most likely just a rebranded machine from one of the four or five manufacturers.
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Mecer is crap. System76 is Clevo and there are issues with some models. Back in the day S76 sold rebranded asus, they should have stuck to them.
 
ponder said:
Mecer is crap. System76 is Clevo and there are issues with some models. Back in the day S76 sold rebranded asus, they should have stuck to them.
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Asus ranked amongst the top five in terms of reliability, when I checked a few years ago, according to re-insurers who provided the extended warranties. Also in that league were Toshiba, Acer, Lenovo (Thinkpad) and Apple Macbook Pro. I would have preferred Asus, though, just an irrational sentiment, nothing more.

Dell? They come with Ubuntu and have up to 3-year on-site warranties as well as excellent after sales service, in my own experience.
 
ginggs said:
Sometimes it is cheaper to buy the machine with a Windows license than without. It could also improve the machine's resale value.

I cannot believe you used "Mecer" and "good quality" in the same sentence.
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I have had all hell with Mecer desktop systems back in the day when I was a PC retailer, but never had a comeback on a laptop from them. OK, I also did not sell that many as I had strong faith in the IBM Thinkpads. I have seen clients leave them on the back of a bakkie in the rain, etc. Never had a single hardware issue with those IBM's, last one I sold was a T61p. Then I retired, but am keeping my finger on the pulse, sort of.
 
MacLindroid said:
Mecer = Clevo = good quality at a reasonable price. They are more reliable than the junk HP sells. system 76; are these reliable and affordable? who manufactures it? Clevo is not an assembler but a manufacturer. They are one of a few whose machines get rebranded under popular brand names. System 76 is most likely just a rebranded machine from one of the four or five manufacturers.
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Yep Sager/Horize/Prostar/XMG all = Clevo
Have a Horize P150EM had no trouble from it.
That dealer also will ship here,take off 10% GST & add 14% VAT,duties nil.
http://www.logicalblueone.com.au/store/index.php

The "W" series is fixed GPU the others models are mostly changeable MXM GPU's
 
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MacLindroid said:
Dell? They come with Ubuntu and have up to 3-year on-site warranties as well as excellent after sales service, in my own experience.
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Dell is good, next day onsite warranty for 3yrs makes them even better.
 
MacLindroid said:
I think that the basic machine is not that bad, but I will rather spec a faster CPU, more RAM. I am so thankful that there is no OS on it. Linux is free, this is a Linux forum, not a Windows one. Why buy a Windows machine and then run Linux? This machine has a 17" screen, hence the high basic price.

Mecer = Clevo = good quality at a reasonable price. They are more reliable than the junk HP sells. system 76; are these reliable and affordable? who manufactures it? Clevo is not an assembler but a manufacturer. They are one of a few whose machines get rebranded under popular brand names. System 76 is most likely just a rebranded machine from one of the four or five manufacturers.
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The notebook linked is available as a barebone product (with additional options to complete the product), thus it provided you with choice, pretty much the same reason why you can run Linux, Windows or both on any system. Unsupported Linux systems usually requires proprietary drivers, but there are numerous workarounds in Linux. The Windows systems in mention is OEM, there is also Linux OEM systems, Steam OS will probably be the largest Linux distribution (in relation with OEM) in time to come, hence it is available with a pre-installed (or activated) or starter OS. Red Hat also have a very large OEM and proprietary market share.

Add support or proprietary additions to Linux, then you will start to pay, Canonical have various support packages available to meet “business services” policies, and so does others.

This is an open ICT Forum, with various other “debatable topics”…

All other contributions in this thread are spot on.
 
ponder said:
Mecer is crap. System76 is Clevo and there are issues with some models. Back in the day S76 sold rebranded asus, they should have stuck to them.
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So far, I had trouble with MacbookPro, which should have been perfect, at the price. In fact, my Apple devices & software were so unreliable that I bought a Huawei Y300 phone instead and it works! HP & Acer also let me down badly, only Dell did rather well, even with low spec configuration. Paying more is no indication of quality, just more $$$ going to the vendors.

What one really needs for Linux is just a lekker fast 6gb/s SSD, 4GB RAM of which 1GB is shared with Intel HD4000 or better and an i3 Haswell CPU. If I spec mine with i7 quad, 16GB DDR3, 256GB SSD, it will be a waste of good money but, at the same time, perhaps it will be useful for the next decade. I am currently using a 7 year old laptop with just 2GB RAM of which 1.7GB is available to the system, and a AMD Athlon x64 TF-20 CPU. It does 90% of the job instantly and only graphics-intensive work is sometimes lagging, because the antiquated graphics chip is not supported any longer and software rendering is being used.

Some newer laptops accept a secondary mSATA SSD and perhaps I should get one of those, retain the Windows 8.1 and just install Linux on the new drive.
 
MacLindroid said:
Some newer laptops accept a secondary mSATA SSD and perhaps I should get one of those, retain the Windows 8.1 and just install Linux on the new drive.
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Don't forget to check out Windows 8.1, much lighter on the hardware requirements nowadays. ;)

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Windows 8.1

kingrob said:
Don't forget to check out Windows 8.1, much lighter on the hardware requirements nowadays. ;)

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Where is Windows heading toward? And with MS Office? I would buy a Dell with 8.1 if I know that these will remain alive as standalone applications - MS Office incl Outlook & Notes.
 
Just get Thunderbird and OpenOffice. Microsoft hasn't innovated in years and their focus is now clearly shifting towards mobile devices (hence the .1 in 8.1 after the backlash of consumers)

I laugh @ your 1gb ram used and show you my 250mb ram used
 
envo said:
Just get Thunderbird and OpenOffice. Microsoft hasn't innovated in years and their focus is now clearly shifting towards mobile devices (hence the .1 in 8.1 after the backlash of consumers)

I laugh @ your 1gb ram used and show you my 250mb ram used
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I laugh at your 250MB ram use and show you my 90MB ram used :D
 
envo said:
Just get Thunderbird and OpenOffice. Microsoft hasn't innovated in years and their focus is now clearly shifting towards mobile devices (hence the .1 in 8.1 after the backlash of consumers)

I laugh @ your 1gb ram used and show you my 250mb ram used
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My notebook has 4GB RAM, so not really fussed.

Do you only have 1GB RAM? Old machine?

PS: Most of that 1GB RAM is for prefetching. ;)
 
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