Oh dear.
GDP is Gross Domestic Product, not Profit.
Your whole argument just disintegrated.
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Oh dear.
GDP is Gross Domestic Product, not Profit.
Your whole argument just disintegrated.
Moederloos
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OK - let us not push around figures - let us keep it simple.
If I have to close my doors for 2 of the 8 hours in a day - I have lost 25% of my day's productivity.
Convert that into any figure that anyone is comfortable with.
It is pointless (IMHO) to argue the figure itself - most of us cannot comprehend a billion anyways.
It is "easy" to say - "Oh well, if Joe does not go shopping now, he will still need to go buy milk, so there is no 'loss' " - but that I think is simplifying. I for one have spent WAY less than normal this week - a glass of water in place of my tea, etc.
If I have to close my doors for 2 of the 8 hours in a day - I have lost 25% of my day's productivity.
Convert that into any figure that anyone is comfortable with.
It is pointless (IMHO) to argue the figure itself - most of us cannot comprehend a billion anyways.
It is "easy" to say - "Oh well, if Joe does not go shopping now, he will still need to go buy milk, so there is no 'loss' " - but that I think is simplifying. I for one have spent WAY less than normal this week - a glass of water in place of my tea, etc.
Estcourt(the bacon people) lost 17 tonnes of polony this week.Apparently the polony was half cooked when the power went off.
then it started going bad....and they threw it away.
I think there is going to be a shortage of polony next week....
and beer...... and bread...... and petrol.....the list goes on..... and on.....
then it started going bad....and they threw it away.
I think there is going to be a shortage of polony next week....
and beer...... and bread...... and petrol.....the list goes on..... and on.....
Our company loses ~R400,000 per hour during loadshedding. Now the company is buying generators worth R3,000,000 in order to carry on production during these hours. Guess what just happened to my increase this year and the price increases for its products?
nauseous_monkey
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damnit I knew I should have googled that
But I think much of what I said still stands.
nauseous_monkey
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Yeah, those generators are said to have a six months waiting list.
Have you wondered weather they will be able to pay all their staff at the end of the month?
Some companies will have to use their overdraft to pay their employees...
and pay interest on borrowed money.
Pretty soon the banks will stop extending credit as soon as no product goes out the gate!
Layoffs will start.....its a vicious spiral.....
nauseous_monkey
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Ekskomel is Load-shedding
all over your kitten
/oops wrong thread... still applicable though
all over your kitten
/oops wrong thread... still applicable though
schitz011
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Another aspect of this is that it is polarizing the nation somewhat.
Has anyone else noticed that people are being a lot less PC the last two weeks?
If these power failures are to continue for the next 5/10 years then I wonder what effect this will have on nationalism and the rise of factions..
Has anyone else noticed that people are being a lot less PC the last two weeks?
If these power failures are to continue for the next 5/10 years then I wonder what effect this will have on nationalism and the rise of factions..
Moederloos
Honorary Master
Please can your increase give mine a message? Tell him I miss him!
-Our company also spent a lot - not that much, but a lot for us - guess my next increase is going to be abroad.
Fer sure - it is very evident that something has changed.
These times will one day be in the history books.
schitz011
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It is defiantly a watershed and if these power failures continues, as has been speculated, till the end of next week, the publics reaction will be a litmus test as to which direction South Africa is likely to head in the coming decade.
Either the public will be galvanized into finally taking a stand in which case there is a glimmer of hope, or the public will simply shrug their collective shoulders and accept it, and South Africa only needs to look north for it's future..
nauseous_monkey
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http://www.24.com/news/?p=tsa&i=817682
Too little too late Mugabeki Just instruct them to stop supplying your family in ZIM with Free power and Speed up the Plans for another KOEBERG, Dump your BEE/AA cr@p and reemploy the fired Engineers (with common sense and brains) you chased . Then while You at it fire your communications ministry (And Yourself) and restore this country to prosperity for all and give us cheap communications! (Free for the disadvantaged that cannot afford any Internet (ALL of them white and black))
Too little too late Mugabeki Just instruct them to stop supplying your family in ZIM with Free power and Speed up the Plans for another KOEBERG, Dump your BEE/AA cr@p and reemploy the fired Engineers (with common sense and brains) you chased . Then while You at it fire your communications ministry (And Yourself) and restore this country to prosperity for all and give us cheap communications! (Free for the disadvantaged that cannot afford any Internet (ALL of them white and black))
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Does eishkom still _have_ qualified engineers?? Or does a bulb fitter qualify as en engineer nowadays??
The fact of the matter is very simple. Eskom can't produce more electricity then they are producing now for the next 5 years at least . Did it happened because of their stupidity ?.......yes .
Is it a disaster for South Africa and every citizen in the country ?......... yes . The only important question is what each individual do in this case . Stay and find a way to work around the problem or go some where else . This is the only question . Sorry no more electricity
Is it a disaster for South Africa and every citizen in the country ?......... yes . The only important question is what each individual do in this case . Stay and find a way to work around the problem or go some where else . This is the only question . Sorry no more electricity
Moederloos
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And agreed.Eskom can supply less to certain areas though.
Eskom can ask guavamint to send the army in to townships and disconnect illegal supplies.
Eskom can subside solar geysers HEAVILY and supply and install them too.
Eskom can incentivize companies to operate night shifts with massive price reductons, so as to alleviate day time pressures.
Eskom can supply less to certain areas though.
Eskom can ask guavamint to send the army in to townships and disconnect illegal supplies.
Eskom can subside solar geysers HEAVILY and supply and install them too.
Eskom can incentivize companies to operate night shifts with massive price reductons, so as to alleviate day time pressures.
There is no more army left.
65% of our 'Army" is off sick at any day(unfit for duty)
The other 35% is a danger to themselves and to others in the vicinity.
Lohatlha is a case in point.
(fireing at ground targets with anti aircraft guns!)
Moederloos
Honorary Master
hehe - it was a bit of tongue in cheek.
As you can from a few of my previous posts - they are a favourite target:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=1074769&postcount=3
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showpost.php?p=1452472&postcount=24