Looking to buy, need pointers

Also considering Audi A3 1.8T 118 kw and 2.0T 147kw.
 
I've checked VW Mastercars, and you can definitely get one of these for R200 000: Jetta VI 1.4 TSI 90kW Comfortline DSG

You know what they say about pre-owned BMWs, right? Buy More Worries :P

Remember to factor the cost of tyres into it, especially with BMWs and their run-flats. Did you know that a single tyre for a BMW X5 costs R5 000? True story ... that's a R20 000 replacement bill, because the X-Drive system wants all four replaced at the same time.

For now just be happy with an upgrade, rather than wanting to jump straight to the moon. Trust me, those entry-level used BMWs with zero options loaded into them are nasty. If you get lucky and get a fully-loaded one, that's a different story.

For R200 000, you could even go buy a couple brand-new cars that aren't half-bad - think Kia Rio and Hyundai Accent sedans, or even (dare I say it?) the ever-popular Toyota Corolla Quest.
 
phiber said:
Still about 20k for 1 year and 10k kms on the 320D
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That's a lot, I wonder how 3rd parties like Motorite and SA Warranties compare. It's a bit of a gamble to rely on luck with such cars although I do know someone who has had it out of motor plan for the past few years without issues. His is on 200 000 km now. But lately I'm feeling swayed towards the A3 rather.
 
Foxhound5366 said:
I've checked VW Mastercars, and you can definitely get one of these for R200 000: Jetta VI 1.4 TSI 90kW Comfortline DSG

You know what they say about pre-owned BMWs, right? Buy More Worries :P

Remember to factor the cost of tyres into it, especially with BMWs and their run-flats. Did you know that a single tyre for a BMW X5 costs R5 000? True story ... that's a R20 000 replacement bill, because the X-Drive system wants all four replaced at the same time.

For now just be happy with an upgrade, rather than wanting to jump straight to the moon. Trust me, those entry-level used BMWs with zero options loaded into them are nasty. If you get lucky and get a fully-loaded one, that's a different story.

For R200 000, you could even go buy a couple brand-new cars that aren't half-bad - think Kia Rio and Hyundai Accent sedans, or even (dare I say it?) the ever-popular Toyota Corolla Quest.
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Thank you for this info Foxhound. I agree with you that something like a VW will give less worries although I have read of lots of DSG system issues especially on non-GTI models. That's why on the OP I said I would go for a manual Golf 1.6 TSI Highline. I want something a bit more engaging than a Toyota or Hyundai. :)
 
Galactica said:
Thank you for this info Foxhound. I agree with you that something like a VW will give less worries although I have read of lots of DSG system issues especially on non-GTI models. That's why on the OP I said I would go for a manual Golf 1.6 TSI Highline. I want something a bit more engaging than a Toyota or Hyundai. :)
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I dunno, people will always moan about something. In my experience, the DSG is an awesome gearbox, especially paired with VW's powerful TDI engines.

Don't be fooled by the Golf aura. It's the automotive equivalent of a white toaster - functional but soulless. The GTI is a different matter, but you wouldn't want to buy a caned secondhand model.

Test drive some of those 'safe' cars and you'll find they're perfectly decent to drive, with high spec levels out of the box.

With each new car I get, I find I'm starting to value peace of mind (for 95% of the urban grind) over engaging high-speed blasts (ridiculously not worth the risk for 5% of the time).

Good luck with your choice. I know there are great deals to be had on the BMW 1-Series, if you really cannot resist ;)
 
ChocolateBadger said:
Yup and roux "how about the corsa? It's made in Germany ya know?"

Chevron = Honda
Roux = Opel

Then the kia/Hyundai crowd chime in.. Etc etc. This sub forum needs new blood.
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Yeah ok, I'll revise my recommendation: re-mortgage the house and buy an Audi RS7. The extra-firm one - your chiropractor will thank you for the extra business.

Better? :D Alternatively, I think the R3 000/month budget should be just enough for half of the boot section. It could be like an 'assemble a car' kit challenge!
 
Hey man, I had a budget of R180 000. I settled on a 2010 Audi A3 with 58k on the clock. Pick it up tomorrow :)

I will let you know how it turns out..
 
Foxhound5366 said:
I dunno, people will always moan about something. In my experience, the DSG is an awesome gearbox, especially paired with VW's powerful TDI engines.

Don't be fooled by the Golf aura. It's the automotive equivalent of a white toaster - functional but soulless. The GTI is a different matter, but you wouldn't want to buy a caned secondhand model.

Test drive some of those 'safe' cars and you'll find they're perfectly decent to drive, with high spec levels out of the box.

With each new car I get, I find I'm starting to value peace of mind (for 95% of the urban grind) over engaging high-speed blasts (ridiculously not worth the risk for 5% of the time).

Good luck with your choice. I know there are great deals to be had on the BMW 1-Series, if you really cannot resist ;)
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One series I would only consider F20 model but they are still above my budget, unless prices get revised now in the new year.
 
Davush said:
Hey man, I had a budget of R180 000. I settled on a 2010 Audi A3 with 58k on the clock. Pick it up tomorrow :)

I will let you know how it turns out..
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Wow congrats! I presume it's the 1.9 diesel? I like the low mileage. :)
 
Galactica said:
Wow congrats! I presume it's the 1.9 diesel? I like the low mileage. :)
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I'm sure OP found a great ride, but low mileage is not always a good thing, especially on a car going out of plan. It would generally be safer buying something with higher mileage in my opinion because it has stood the test of time more. Anything nasty would have likely reared its head more so at 80,000km than 40,000km, which the plan would have covered. Too often is mileage touted as the be all and end all, 100,000km - 150,000km is very little by today's standards.
 
PostmanPot said:
I'm sure OP found a great ride, but low mileage is not always a good thing, especially on a car going out of plan. It would generally be safer buying something with higher mileage in my opinion because it has stood the test of time more. Anything nasty would have likely reared its head more so at 80,000km than 40,000km, which the plan would have covered. Too often is mileage touted as the be all and end all, 100,000km - 150,000km is very little by today's standards.
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1. How long is the Audi maintenance plan and how much per year is it to extend it?
2. As Audi owners are you running your cars out of motorplan and if so do you have peace of mind? Do you think extending or buying a motor plan from Audi or a third party is worth the money?

I have owned a vehicle with over 100 000 km and it has cost me a lot in maintenance out of my pocket (granted it was not an Audi but a Ford), hence my caution. But I hear your reasoning regarding 40 000km vs 80 000km.
 
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Galactica said:
1. How long is the Audi maintenance plan and how much per year is it to extend it?
2. As Audi owners are you running your cars out of motorplan and if so do you have peace of mind? Do you think extending or buying a motor plan from Audi or a third party is worth the money?

I have owned a vehicle with over 100 000 km and it has cost me a lot in maintenance out of my pocket (granted it was not an Audi but a Ford), hence my caution. But I hear your reasoning regarding 40 000km vs 80 000km.
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1. 5 years/100,000km and around R20,000 to extend per year AFAIK, not worth it.

2. I have peace of mind based on what I know about cars, the service history printout, rapport and trust with the previous owner, etc. There's not too much that can go wrong if the car has been bulletproof and has been maintained/serviced regularly. Turbo around R12 - 15k if it goes. Clutch and cambelt will be pricey when they need doing, about R12 - R15k each.

Of course there is some risk in buying any second hand car (let alone any goods), but it shouldn't really scare you. As long as you have funds aside for maintenance. The point is a massive saving compared to buying new, or low mileage, or something with plan - all of which make for a higher asking price. You'll lose much less money through depreciation, and be able to use the extra money elsewhere.

Some people do go with Motorite/third party warranties. They're only around R8,000 for two years depending on vehicle, so not too bad. I've heard of bad service, not wanting to pay full amounts, etc. but certainly seen cases where it has helped. If you need that kind of assurance, go for it.
 
Roger Moore said:
320d out of motor plan is dangerous. Work colleague did a 50k engine replacement.
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Yes a dashboard for my 85 bmw is 25k from the agents. You do not always have to replace the entire engine. This is just what bmw does because they do nat have me hanics, they have fitters.
 
PostmanPot said:
1. 5 years/100,000km and around R20,000 to extend per year AFAIK, not worth it.

2. I have peace of mind based on what I know about cars, the service history printout, rapport and trust with the previous owner, etc. There's not too much that can go wrong if the car has been bulletproof and has been maintained/serviced regularly. Turbo around R12 - 15k if it goes. Clutch and cambelt will be pricey when they need doing, about R12 - R15k each.

Of course there is some risk in buying any second hand car (let alone any goods), but it shouldn't really scare you. As long as you have funds aside for maintenance. The point is a massive saving compared to buying new, or low mileage, or something with plan - all of which make for a higher asking price. You'll lose much less money through depreciation, and be able to use the extra money elsewhere.

Some people do go with Motorite/third party warranties. They're only around R8,000 for two years depending on vehicle, so not too bad. I've heard of bad service, not wanting to pay full amounts, etc. but certainly seen cases where it has helped. If you need that kind of assurance, go for it.
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Thanks for your detailed response. At what mileage is Audi cambelt replacement due?
 
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