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Hey you don't insult a mod Wiz, but ok to insult a non-mod user.
What about bwana-isms? Of course peterchisms is ok.
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Mac and PC, which one is better?
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Hey you don't insult a mod Wiz, but ok to insult a non-mod user.
What about bwana-isms? Of course peterchisms is ok.
Lol, you are so funny Peter
Bwana doesnt say silly things all the time... otherwise I would have a field day
No Wiz, I won't insult and say you're not honest, even in your religious arguments you have a weird view of the Catholic Church which is so different to things I see in masses I attend; as if you attended a different church or you've got things confused but I don't say you're DISHONEST. You're happy to call me dishonest, yet I'm always truthful. Dude, I tried Win 7 - I did not like it - it offers no advantages for me. I keep my stuff working and don't repeatedly download and install builds of 7 because that does not make me excited. I did not do that with Vista. I also keep my Leopard install because it works well for me. I use my PC to do things, the same with the Mac and the way things are - is good enough. Of course you are free to call me a liar but I won't do the same in reference to your own posts. Anyway note how you attack me and I don't touch you.
Oh yeah thanks for more personal attacks to derail the thread further. And nice opinionated view of games you have - if it's not Crysis or the newest Wolfenstein - it's a junk game according to you. Anyway don't derail the thread further.
As for funny Wiz, my arguments are lost on you because you're just don't take 5 seconds to understand them.
Peter most games are similar to crysis and wolfenstein in terms of what you need to run them, i think you missing that point because you only play 407 games
There are more than 407 games out there, i hope one day you will understand that.
There are more than 407 games out there, i hope one day you will understand that.
Peter most games are similar to crysis and wolfenstein in terms of what you need to run them, i think you missing that point because you only play 407 games
Orly? So which strategy wargame has the requirements of Crysis of the new Wolfenstein? In fact these strategy games are mostly 2D games and even run on Intel GMA graphics.
Yes, so how many thousands of games have you yourself played then?
Well peter i cannot play thousands of games but there are millions of people in the world who more than likely do. I cannot speak for the millions who play games but i am sure games are not limited to strategy. Sadly you live in a world where everyone plays 2d strat games
Come back to earth bud where there is more than 407 strat games.
Just for you pete, http://www.btgames.co.za/btgames/productlist.asp
Go check those games and then maybe you will see how many titles the mac cannot play.
Come back to earth bud where there is more than 407 strat games.
Just for you pete, http://www.btgames.co.za/btgames/productlist.asp
Go check those games and then maybe you will see how many titles the mac cannot play.
Well peter i cannot play thousands of games but there are millions of people in the world who more than likely do. I cannot speak for the millions who play games but i am sure games are not limited to strategy. Sadly you live in a world where everyone plays 2d strat games
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said everyone plays 2D games but many people do, otherwise they wouldn't have been made in the first place and even remade for the Mac. There is a market for them. For example, I enjoy them -2D strategy games- like Sid Meier's Civilisation and sequels and games like AOK/AOE and so on. Many of these are still modern in appearance and people who enjoy this genre don't need a non-Mac.
Dude you're just arguing with me for the sake of arguing. You can't be that ignorant or can you be?
So which have you played? Show me one which either can't play on bootcamp or natively on the Mac.
It can play all PC games via Bootcamp. However PC can't play some Mac exclusives. Neither Mac nor PC can play PS2, PS3, XBOX/360 or Wii games.
Then there are handheld console games that neither PC nor Mac can play.
Again because you've missed this:
The PC is not the be-all and end-all of game consoles. The PC is just one platform. The Mac can handle all PC games via Bootcamp and it can play a fair number of games such as DOOM/Quake/SIMS natively. There are many games which are popular which neither the Mac nor PC can play - things such as Wii only games and other console exclusives.
Mac and PC are just another platform.
Now if the PC could literally play every single console game and Mac couldn't I would agree with you. It can't.
I will say nothing more on this subject as usual we are arguing in circles. Have you actually tried Mac OSX?
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Peter you keep going on about how mac can play 407 2d games so it will be fine not me.
Bootcamp may well work but why do you assume people want bootcamp. So when you read the OP you should have answered that truthly and not go off about mac and it's 407 games.
For instance if the pc could emulate ps3 games but it was a bit of a mission and someone asked if they should get a pc with windows or a ps3 i would say get a ps3 because that is the obvious answer.
Bootcamp may well work but why do you assume people want bootcamp. So when you read the OP you should have answered that truthly and not go off about mac and it's 407 games.
For instance if the pc could emulate ps3 games but it was a bit of a mission and someone asked if they should get a pc with windows or a ps3 i would say get a ps3 because that is the obvious answer.
Some of those are 3D games. I never said they were 2D.
Bootcamp may well work but why do you assume people want bootcamp. So when you read the OP you should have answered that truthly and not go off about mac and it's 407 games.
Bootcamp means you run Windows XP/Vista/7 natively on the hardware. If it plays on the Dell or Alienware, it will play on the Mac under bootcamp.
That's not the point. The point is that you can play any Windows game on a Mac and there is a fair selection of games a Mac can play under OSX.
The PC is not king of gaming and even if it was Bootcamp can do the same on Mac hardware. You can also run your PS3 emulator and there are PS1 emulators which work, on the Mac under bootcamp, sometimes even under Fusion or Parallels.
The pc is king for gaming because you can get a far better gaming machine for the money you pay for a mac.
You could get a top end gpu with a pc and a very good cpu for the same price you would pay for a mac, so i am not sure how you think less performance for more money puts mac in the same class as pc for gaming. Only you would miss something this obvious.
Maybe you are not very smart but for the price of a mac with a 4870 vga you could get an i7 system with the best vga card on the market.
So you want to tell people buy an expensive mac that will play your games well as opposed to buying a pc with windows and there will not be one game you cannot play on full settings. Good thinking pete, pay more for less. I love it dude. I really hope people do not listen to what you have to say because you do not think clearly about situations you just shout MAC
I see your logic is failing you again.
You could get a top end gpu with a pc and a very good cpu for the same price you would pay for a mac, so i am not sure how you think less performance for more money puts mac in the same class as pc for gaming. Only you would miss something this obvious.
Maybe you are not very smart but for the price of a mac with a 4870 vga you could get an i7 system with the best vga card on the market.
So you want to tell people buy an expensive mac that will play your games well as opposed to buying a pc with windows and there will not be one game you cannot play on full settings. Good thinking pete, pay more for less. I love it dude
. I really hope people do not listen to what you have to say because you do not think clearly about situations you just shout MAC I see your logic is failing you again.
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The PC is king of PC gaming. Very few people are high core PC gamers. You need to spend lots of cash to buy the fastest GPU at least once per year, arguably twice per year and in SLI/CrossFire that's 4 cards per year. I mean why stop at mediocrity. Of course I doubt you're really a hardcore gamer.
The difference in performance was 5-7 fps in those tests they ran. Its not a terribly high difference. You can get a 4870 for the Mac - it will play most games with at least 24fps.
Except you are not very smart because you assume I'd buy a machine for gaming only. If I were to do that, I'd get a PC. With my current 30 inch S-IPS screen I'd get a better experience than you on that cheap TN based panel.
Even with a few less FPS, I can still get better contrast, higher res and a cinema like experience with better colour (8bit) vs your 6bits.
So you want to tell people buy an expensive mac that will play your games well as opposed to buying a pc with windows and there will not be one game you cannot play on full settings. Good thinking pete, pay more for less. I love it dude
Buy a Mac to do work. However, you can still play any Windows game. That's if you want to play Windoze games, after all many people prefer Console exclusives anyway.
I won't insult you in return.
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We have to clear it up because you can't read and you assume too much.
I never said that the Mac was the ultimate gaming machine. I said that it plays all PC games via bootcamp and it plays some Mac games too, some of which are quite recent.
For work purposes, get a Mac unless the software you need to run or want to run is not available on it. It also depends on how many pieces of software we're talking about. If you use Logic Pro and FCP to mix music videos and need some Windows only app, well you could use bootcamp or Fusion/Parallels. If you can get everything on the PC and you're clued up and willing to put up with the extra time PC maintenance takes - get a PC.
However, don't be put off by the FUD/BS arguments that Macs can't play games. There are MacOSX native games. Also all PC games play on the Mac via BC. Maybe they play a bit slower than on high end gamer graphics but we're not talking here about gaming rigs of people who are game hardware enthusiasts. It's likely that the person who's making the decision to buy a Mac or PC is not going to be choosing between a top of the range gaming Alienware latop or desktop PC and a high end Mac Pro or MBP, they are considering standard Mac vs Standard PC and let's face it - unless you ask and pay for a high end GPU in a standard PC - you won't get it, so you won't be able to play the latest games anyway on that PC.
We're not talking about the OP anymore. We went further.
Only because you never asked what programs he uses and what games he plays.
You just go off about mac as usual, so after your post there is no reason to go on because it is obvious you realize that a windows pc may be worth more to some people than a mac.
You just go off about mac as usual, so after your post there is no reason to go on because it is obvious you realize that a windows pc may be worth more to some people than a mac.
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You shouldnt tell people you own Encarta shares (which dont exist)
Or miss represent my positions. About that honesty...
Anyhoo, you fantatically love mac. Got it.
You shouldnt tell people you own Encarta shares (which dont exist)
1. The Encarta thing was an obvious joke.
2. Your positions are taken from what you say, it's often what people say, how strongly they say it, what they omit which allows one to see what they think.
So no, I did not miss represent your positions.
But I could say you're a hypocrite because you assume:
About that honesty...
Anyhoo, you fantatically love mac. Got it.
Yes I get you. It's ok for you to assume things about me but not ok for me to assume things. Nice hypocrisy. Typical Wiz.
He had a general question. And someone else answered that bit too.
Oh nonsense, not as much as you went of in that thread about SL beating Win 7. Your knee jerk response was phenomenal yet you probably never even used a Mac so can't gauge its performance - yet you automatically say that test is flawed. After all Win 7 must be faster!!!!!!!1 Nah, dude, you're the fanboy here, I use both PCs and Macs, I don't fight with people trying to ram Win 7 down their throats. Just save some cash and buy a Mac already and put it next to your Windows 7 RTM pc.
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Now that you have embellished on your story it makes more sense
A lie, of course you have, I have proof.
I let the evidence speak for itself PeterBut I could say you're a hypocrite because you assume:
Yes I get you. It's ok for you to assume things about me but not ok for me to assume things. Nice hypocrisy. Typical Wiz.
I feel I would be lying if I said you were not a Mac fanboi I dont think theres a sane person in this forum that cant see you are a Mac fanboi Im a linux fanboi... fess up PeterCh