macOS Tahoe (macOS 26)

Tahoe or Camel toe?

Goodness gracious me. Imagine speculating about which icon and name the newest version of updated Mac emojis and vehicle of planned obsolescence will have.

In the old days we'd speculate if there would be memory compression or not, or if Rosetta stone for PowerPC would continue. Now it's this mediocre silliness.
 
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Mirai said:
Tahoe or Camel toe?

Goodness gracious me. Imagine speculating about which icon and name the newest version of updated Mac emojis and vehicle of planned obsolescence will have.

In the old days we'd speculate if there would be memory compression or not, or if Rosetta stone for PowerPC would continue. Now it's this mediocre silliness.
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planned obsolescence?
 
AfricanTech said:
planned obsolescence?
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Sooner or later a new version of MacOS is no longer supported and then you're out of luck.

With every version of OSX, Apple culls some of the older Macs, often not even in chronological order.

(They can still be made to work with OCLP).
 
Mirai said:
Sooner or later a new version of MacOS is no longer supported and then you're out of luck.

Every version of OSX, Apple culls some of the older Macs, often not even in chronological order.

(They can still be made to work with OCLP).
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Ah, you're talking about them not supporting the newer versions of macOS on older hardware.

I have a Macbook Air here from 2014 that is still running fine - sure, I can't upgrade it beyond Big Sur but it still works- a bit slow given the age of the hardware but it's still usable - in fact, I'm typing this reply on the very machine I'm referring to.

You can't expect older hardware to be able to run the newest operating systems ad infinitum...


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AfricanTech said:
Ah, you're talking about them not supporting the newer versions of macOS on older hardware.
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And often those are introduced not because of specific hardware requirements but because they release a new major version which adds a few minor features.

AfricanTech said:
I have a Macbook Air here from 2014 that is still running fine - sure, I can't upgrade it beyond Big Sur but it still works- a bit slow given the age of the hardware but it's still usable - in fact, I'm typing this reply on the very machine I'm referring to.
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The problem is that perfectly good hardware no longer receives security updates. Hence planned obsolescence and new Mac OS versions are a vehicle of that.

And sometimes that can happen. For example when moving from PowerPC to Intel or moving from 32bit code to 64bit code.
But when it's arbitrary what is often the case, it's what I wrote about.




AfricanTech said:
You can't expect older hardware to be able to run the newest operating systems ad infinitum...


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Sigh.

You paint everything with a broad brush.
 
Mirai said:
And often those are introduced not because of specific hardware requirements but because they release a new major version which adds a few minor features.



The problem is that perfectly good hardware no longer receives security updates. Hence planned obsolescence and new Mac OS versions are a vehicle of that.

And sometimes that can happen. For example when moving from PowerPC to Intel or moving from 32bit code to 64bit code.
But when it's arbitrary when is often the case, it's what I wrote about.






Sigh.

You paint everything with a broad brush.
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Sometimes you've got to let the old stuff go man...
 
Smiggles said:
Windows does the same.
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Windows 7 came out in 2009. Extended support ended in 2020. You could pay up to 3 years for support on top of that.
Windows XP, came out in 2001, support ended in 2014.
Snow Leopard came out in 2009. Support ended in 2014.
Macbooks from 2015/2016 are no longer officially supported by Apple.
Note that Intel 8th Gen processors can be upgraded to the latest Windows 11 which will last until 2031. Those 8th Gen machines launched in 2019. So a 2019 machine will have support until 2031. So you could argue that TPM 2.0 is needed and a sort of valid cut off for Win 10 to Win 11. There are some real security benefits in that TPM 2.0.

It's a little disingenuous to compare Windows and OSX, the former has to run with 1000s of configurations, where MS makes no money on anything with Mac OS on a very limited number of platforms counting in the dozens, where Apple takes all the profit. All on devices which tend to be more premium than average WinTel and more expensive.
 
$m@Rt@$$ said:
You can accuse Apple of a lot of things, but the lack of long term software support is not one of them.
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A factually incorrect comment if there ever was one.

And many of these obsolete machines run perfectly on the latest Mac OS releases when one uses third party tools.
 
AfricanTech said:
Ah, you're talking about them not supporting the newer versions of macOS on older hardware.

I have a Macbook Air here from 2014 that is still running fine - sure, I can't upgrade it beyond Big Sur but it still works- a bit slow given the age of the hardware but it's still usable - in fact, I'm typing this reply on the very machine I'm referring to.

You can't expect older hardware to be able to run the newest operating systems ad infinitum...


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I also have one of those 2014’s

It’s mostly used for windows now.
My macmini is for OSX

It’s a pity Apple ditched boot camp.
 
Pegging said:
I also have one of those 2014’s
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I have a 2012 rMBP 15. The only slow down is the 8GB of RAM but the machine works very well for Word Processing, Spreadsheet, Email, browsing and Youtube/Netflix. It's on Catalina. I could patch it higher with OCLP. We have another 15 inch MBP machine which is from 2015 with 16GB of RAM and AMD GPU and that machine is also now obsolete but it's still fast. That would still fly on the latest MacOS, also with OCLP.

Pegging said:
It’s mostly used for windows now.
My macmini is for OSX

It’s a pity Apple ditched boot camp.
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Apple did not really ditch bootcamp, because no current Windows version runs on Apple Silicon.
 
Mirai said:
Windows 7 came out in 2009. Extended support ended in 2020. You could pay up to 3 years for support on top of that.
Windows XP, came out in 2001, support ended in 2014.
Snow Leopard came out in 2009. Support ended in 2014.
Macbooks from 2015/2016 are no longer officially supported by Apple.
Note that Intel 8th Gen processors can be upgraded to the latest Windows 11 which will last until 2031. Those 8th Gen machines launched in 2019. So a 2019 machine will have support until 2031. So you could argue that TPM 2.0 is needed and a sort of valid cut off for Win 10 to Win 11. There are some real security benefits in that TPM 2.0.

It's a little disingenuous to compare Windows and OSX, the former has to run with 1000s of configurations, where MS makes no money on anything with Mac OS on a very limited number of platforms counting in the dozens, where Apple takes all the profit. All on devices which tend to be more premium than average WinTel and more expensive.
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Microsoft makes money on ads and selling your data and it's been growing year over year. I'm not even going to bother reading the rest of your drivel.
 
Mirai said:
I have a 2012 rMBP 15. The only slow down is the 8GB of RAM but the machine works very well for Word Processing, Spreadsheet, Email, browsing and Youtube/Netflix. It's on Catalina. I could patch it higher with OCLP. We have another 15 inch MBP machine which is from 2015 with 16GB of RAM and AMD GPU and that machine is also now obsolete but it's still fast. That would still fly on the latest MacOS, also with OCLP.



Apple did not really ditch bootcamp, because no current Windows version runs on Apple Silicon.
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Windows can run on osx

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