Maimane admits to having problems with Die Stem

Pitbull said:
So the 1976 uprising for wanting to be taught in their own language was just stupid?

Wow, I would never have thought your view to be this naïve :o
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I think the uprising was because they did NOT want to be taught in Afrikaans not they want "to be taught in their own language", as you suggest.
 
I refused to sing Die Stem before 1994 and have seen no reason to want to change that. Was pretty disgusted that it was included in the National Anthem but understood the reasons for including it.

Hats off to Maimane for owning up to it - can't say I blame him.
 
ngwe23 said:
I think the uprising was because they did NOT want to be taught in Afrikaans not they want "to be taught in their own language", as you suggest.
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Yea, Red apples and Green apples.

Obviously language was a big enough issue for them to die for.
 
I have a problem with the whole thing

National anthem of five countries in Africa including Zambia, Tanzania, Namibia and Zimbabwe after independence.
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Nkosi sikelel part has nothing to do directly with South Africa, it's ideals, hopes, dreams, or togetherness as a nation, die stem is actually about South Africa, not that I want it back but you could always drop die stem and add a English and Afrikaans part to Nkosi.

As we had a Afrikaans version of nkosi in primary school so it would be no biggie
 
FoXtroT said:
As far as I know the bit in our current anthem only talks about the mountains, the sky and the sea does it not?

Hardly Afrikaner nationalism.
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Uh. I've already stated earlier that the current national anthem doesn't have that problem. Die Stem does.
 
Have any of you checked the actual wording of the new anthem lately??

Or, are you relying on a pre-conceived idea of what the words actually are?

For example, Are you aware that the song is in five South African Languages?
 
Die Stem part of the national anthem is exactly like Umshini wami.
Absolutely no difference.

It doesn't talk about killing boers, neither does Die Stem talk about oppression.
But because of its history, that is exactly what it is about.
 
Die Stem verse 1:

Uit die blou van onse hemel,
Vit die diepte van ons see.
Oor ons ewige gebergtes waar
Die kranse antwoord gee,
Deur ons ver-verlate vlaktes
Met die kreun van ossewa
Ruis die stem van ons geliefde,
Van ons land Suid-Afrika
Ons sal antwoord op jou roepstem,
Ons sal offer wat jy vra:
Ons sal lewe, ons sal sterwe
Ons vir jou, Suid-Afrika.


There's nothing specifically afrikaner about that, except the language it's written in...?


-edit - except maybe the bit about the ox wagons?
 
Sinbad said:
Die Stem verse 1:

Uit die blou van onse hemel,
Vit die diepte van ons see.
Oor ons ewige gebergtes waar
Die kranse antwoord gee,
Deur ons ver-verlate vlaktes
Met die kreun van ossewa
Ruis die stem van ons geliefde,
Van ons land Suid-Afrika
Ons sal antwoord op jou roepstem,
Ons sal offer wat jy vra:
Ons sal lewe, ons sal sterwe
Ons vir jou, Suid-Afrika.


There's nothing specifically afrikaner about that, except the language it's written in...?


-edit - except maybe the bit about the ox wagons?
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OK we can change it to "Met die kreun van Ma-le-ma". Done.
 
In my opinion, the quicker the country can settle on a national consensus concerning the language the better. Maimane admitted that the language is an issue, maybe this must be the DA’s next big drive.

It is clear in this thread, that there is a user base which has an implicit issue with the language and that many others are in agreement that The Stem is an Apartheid remnant.

As Maimane said,

“The issue for me is that we can build a common consensus and agree about an issue like Afrikaans because I’m always at the forefront of trying to build a negotiated consensus for South Africans.”
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take the lead.
 
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