Malema found guilty

Do you think the verdict was fair?

  • Yes

    Votes: 80 34.9%

  • No

    Votes: 2 0.9%

  • The sentence was too harsh

    Votes: 1 0.4%

  • The sentence was too lenient

    Votes: 146 63.8%
  • Total voters
    229
Knyro said:
Agents. :p

Side note:

The "no" option is redundant. Obviously if you do not think it is fair then you either think it was too harsh or too lienient.
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Or you disagree with the verdict itself on at least one of the charges. As he was found both guilty and not guilty on the various charges, "no" still doesn't mean much.
 
so where are his followers who always cause these riots? shouldn't there be some sort of riot going on outside some building after his immediate suspension? i'm waiting........
 
Celine said:
so where are his followers who always cause these riots? shouldn't there be some sort of riot going on outside some building after his immediate suspension? i'm waiting........
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It's exam time, remember?
 
Celine said:
so where are his followers who always cause these riots? shouldn't there be some sort of riot going on outside some building after his immediate suspension? i'm waiting........
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Word on the "street" is that, while there has been the odd usual threat of violence etc., many of his former minions actually agree with what has transpired. How true is this? I guess only time will tell.
 
I think the fun is yet to come. Now that he's less "protected" the hawks are going to swoop... and in his wriggles to get off the hook he's going to expose a LOT of dirty dealings involving a lot of people.

I wonder what dear old Tokyo has to hide that Juju knows about - if I were him I would be sweating boer-killing bullets right now.
 
Sinbad said:
I think the fun is yet to come. Now that he's less "protected" the hawks are going to swoop... and in his wriggles to get off the hook he's going to expose a LOT of dirty dealings involving a lot of people.

I wonder what dear old Tokyo has to hide that Juju knows about - if I were him I would be sweating boer-killing bullets right now.
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Great news. So some of his own buddies will take him out. That would be EPIC :D
 
Tacet said:
Or you disagree with the verdict itself on at least one of the charges. As he was found both guilty and not guilty on the various charges, "no" still doesn't mean much.
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That would still fall under too harsh or too lenient. If you think he should have been found guilty for a charge he was found not guilty of the charges then the verdict was too lenient. If you think he should have been found not guilty on a charge he was found guilty of then it was too harsh.

If you think the verdicts on two or more charges should have been the other way around it is up to you to decide whether or not the effect as a whole is the same. If it is it would still be fair, like a murderer getting away with it once then being jailed for a murder he didn't commit, either way he got what was coming to him. If the overall effect is not the same it would bring us back to too lenient/too harsh.
 
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Something tells me that there's a possibility that Sexwale and Winnie Mandela don't really support Malema, maybe they are making it as if they are supporting Malema so that Malema can raise issues that many people are afraid to raise. Let's be honest here, if Malema wasn't born, who would have raised the issue of nationalization? No one. Who would have raised the issue of the rainbow nation being nothing more than a pipe dream? No one!. Who in the ANC is raising the issue of social grants and the building of free house being unsustainable? No one! Malema didn't raise the latter issue too because it doesn't attract votes, but someone must raise that issue, unfortunately no one will. I am of the view that Tokyo and Winnie used Malema to make South Africans wake up and to appreciate their freedom and to do something urgently to get the poor out of poverty otherwise people like Malema will take away that freedom through dictatorship.

We as South Africans have a tendency to completely forget about the poor, we dismiss them as lazy and a nuisance. We wish them away and prefer them to stay in their rural areas and squatter camps. That is a recipe for disaster. The ANC is partly to blame for non delivery of services to the poor, but I think playing the blaming game does little to help the poor. I am sure we as normal South Africans can (ourselves as individuals) help the poor somehow.
 
Sly21C said:
We as South Africans have a tendency to completely forget about the poor, we dismiss them as lazy and a nuisance. We wish them away and prefer them to stay in their rural areas and squatter camps. That is a recipe for disaster. The ANC is partly to blame for non delivery of services to the poor, but I think playing the blaming game does little to help the poor. I am sure we as normal South Africans can (ourselves as individuals) help the poor somehow.
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Quoted for truth. As many have pointed out already, this is just the calm before the storm.
 
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Sly21C said:
Something tells me that there's a possibility that Sexwale and Winnie Mandela don't really support Malema, maybe they are making it as if they are supporting Malema so that Malema can raise issues that many people are afraid to raise. Let's be honest here, if Malema wasn't born, who would have raised the issue of nationalization? No one. Who would have raised the issue of the rainbow nation being nothing more than a pipe dream? No one!. Who in the ANC is raising the issue of social grants and the building of free house being unsustainable? No one! Malema didn't raise the latter issue too because it doesn't attract votes, but someone must raise that issue, unfortunately no one will. I am of the view that Tokyo and Winnie used Malema to make South Africans wake up and to appreciate their freedom and to do something urgently to get the poor out of poverty otherwise people like Malema will take away that freedom through dictatorship.

We as South Africans have a tendency to completely forget about the poor, we dismiss them as lazy and a nuisance. We wish them away and prefer them to stay in their rural areas and squatter camps. That is a recipe for disaster. The ANC is partly to blame for non delivery of services to the poor, but I think playing the blaming game does little to help the poor. I am sure we as normal South Africans can (ourselves as individuals) help the poor somehow.
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Strangely I agree on most... but Malema's downfall is that he didn't raise issues WHEN the NEC wanted him to.... and he didn't know that internal meetings were discussions and not policies to be shouted to the world.

But if Malema didnt shout about nationalisation, then some-else will! .. dont give him too much credit - he is not the only politician trying to secure a place on the gravy boat
 
we dismiss them as lazy and a nuisance.
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There's a need to distinguish between the poor who with some assistance can better their lives and those who demand free everything without lifting a finger to help themselves.
 
To all the Criminals Rapist and especially you Julious and your Cronies South African Public would like to wish you

A Merry Syphilis and Happy Gonorrhea Aids and Ebola in 2012
 
Ricard said:
Strangely I agree on most... but Malema's downfall is that he didn't raise issues WHEN the NEC wanted him to.... and he didn't know that internal meetings were discussions and not policies to be shouted to the world.

But if Malema didnt shout about nationalisation, then some-else will! .. dont give him too much credit - he is not the only politician trying to secure a place on the gravy boat
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But we also must not dismiss the sentiment out there, that would be very foolish. No society can maintain high levels of inequality like this without some kind of backlash.
 
ANC is partly to blame for non delivery of services
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They are the Government, I think they are entirely to blame, they have the power to do so much, they choose to do the opposite.
 
Hemps said:
They are the Government, I think they are entirely to blame, they have the power to do so much, they choose to do the opposite.
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I agree with partly - or maybe mostly

However, the sight of some communities burning down schools, buses and trains leads to me to believe that they're not very good at (or completely disinterested in) uplifting themselves :P
 
Sinbad said:
I agree with partly - or maybe mostly

However, the sight of some communities burning down schools, buses and trains leads to me to believe that they're not very good at (or completely disinterested in) uplifting themselves :P
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We cannot sterotype entire groups based on the actions of a few idiots, or dimiss valid social issues for that matter.
 
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