'Malema is not circumcised'

blunomore

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Phosa said an inkwenkwe was the lowest possible thing that you could call a man in isiXhosa.

"What she says is that he is uncircumcised. What if we say that about her husband, because he is not circumcised.

"Malema is not circumcised, but let us not go there, let's keep it decent. We think the call is more an electioneering stunt," Phosa said.

"She stooped very low in her response, very low. It means that she is not able to take the punches that we do. She is hysterical. As a leader, she went below the bar with her response," he said.

Phosa said the ANC would respond to Zille's remarks in a similar way, "to try to make her aware that if you throw mud, there's a lot of mud around. Anyone can throw mud."

He said the DA was playing people, and not policies, but he denied that Malema had done the same in his remarks.

DA Youth leader Khume Ramulifho on Sunday slammed Malema for referring to him with "the perversely racist term 'garden boy'", saying "Malema has also once again shown himself to be a petty little man who is unable to engage in meaningful debate".


What is up with Phosa? He can see that Zille was being insulting, yet he cannot see what Julius did was wrong???? C'mon, where's your objectivity?

And the worst: he calls Zille 'hysterical'. Typical of males when they are unahppy with a response.
 

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erm, did they just try to suggest that they have not been throwing mud the entire time? lol Its those pesky double standards again.

To fight the devil you must become the devil. Seems like now, the devil is sobbing like a small child

Apparently, telling the truth is below the belt
 
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But this means that he is not a man according to his culture, right?
I don't really know. What does the article say?

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And even then, what is a culture other than man's interpretation thereof.
Whether his willy has skin on it or not is really his business and in my opinion should not be in the media.
As I said, maybe there is another connotation to all of this, meaning he is not a man, rather a boy, not because of a foreskin. In the English language most words have more than one meaning.
 

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I don't really know. What does the article say?

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And even then, what is a culture other than man's interpretation thereof.
Whether his willy has skin on it or not is really his business and in my opinion should not be in the media.
As I said, maybe there is another connotation to all of this, meaning he is not a man, rather a boy, not because of a foreskin. In the English language most words have more than one meaning.

You are so right but just Like the ANC to make a thing about it, if i'm not mistaken there is a word that describes a girl to before she is a woman..... I agree to that Phosa coould have left the thing about the skin out of it.
 

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I don't really know. What does the article say?

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And even then, what is a culture other than man's interpretation thereof.
Whether his willy has skin on it or not is really his business and in my opinion should not be in the media.
As I said, maybe there is another connotation to all of this, meaning he is not a man, rather a boy, not because of a foreskin. In the English language most words have more than one meaning.

AFAIK, if you did not go through the initiation you are not yet considered a man and unfit to lead other. Basically what Tokyo Sexwhale said when Fikile finished his initiation.
 

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Malema 'wet behind the ears', says Zille
I think this report clears most things up.

From that link:

The literal meaning of "inkwenkwe" is boy. Professor of Xhosa Literature at the University of Johannesburg Dr Zilibele Mtumane said that in isiXhosa terminology it refers to someone who has not undergone initiation and hence not been circumcised.

"Such a person is regarded as unimportant. They are said to have no values and should be ignored," Mtumane explained.

I don't believe Zille could've possibly picked a better description of him.

Poor Inkwenkwe ;) I think it's safe to say that Zille has shown that she can throw punches as good as she gets, if not better :)
 

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In retrospect it seems Mrs Zille dished out a broadside to the insults that were hurled at her and the Party she stands for and rightly so.
And yes the chap is wet behind the ears, high on testosterone bleating off his youth to the whole country.

Here we are all trying hard to accept each other in the spirit of Ubuntu and Master Julius Malema is trying his best to talk about a Garden Boy, Colonialists and the like. Actually really pathetic stuff. If Mrs Zille is a colonialist then so I am I and I take unkindly to such a remark considering that our family has been here so long that we needed to unearth ancient Church Records in order to determine where we came from. At least our family has records. I doubt Master Malema even knows where his ancestors came from. Poopaal.
 

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instead of cutting off his you know what, can't we rather demand his tongue?
 

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He was circumcised, but they threw away the baby and kept the foreskin...
 

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Well first of all you first must have a penis so as to get circumcised....don't even mention balls.....:D
 

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He was circumcised, but they threw away the baby and kept the foreskin...

Whaaaaahahahahahahaha!!!!:D *thud* ROFLMAO!!!

Can't we invite little July onto the forum so he/she/it can read this? Please?

As for whether it was his culture or not - if he isn't Xhosa then he wouldn't have taken it personally. Of course, you need to take it in context, if I walk over and call a chap a baby it doesn't mean he is actually a baby, but rather whines like one.

So in this context, we should look at the insult from that point of view, in that she is pointing out his lack of maturity. Of course, because of the way he gets offended by it ... I'm guessing she was right, both literally and figuratively :p

The literal meaning of "inkwenkwe" is boy. Professor of Xhosa Literature at the University of Johannesburg Dr Zilibele Mtumane said that in isiXhosa terminology it refers to someone who has not undergone initiation and hence not been circumcised.

... so its only an understood meaning of inkwenkwe - it doesn't literally mean uncircumcised. Old Phosa is grasping at straws.
 

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... so its only an understood meaning of inkwenkwe - it doesn't literally mean uncircumcised. Old Phosa is grasping at straws.

How does old Phosa know the status of Helen's hubby's willy.........

What exactly do the ANC's spies in the DA report back on?
 

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How does old Phosa know the status of Helen's hubby's willy.........

What exactly do the ANC's spies in the DA report back on?

Bwhahahahabwhahahahabwahahahahbwahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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