Matric pass rate expected to drop: report

system32 said:
Don't take my word for which teachers earn more Private School or Public - read the article:
http://www.moneyweb.co.za/moneyweb-south-africa/teacher-salaries-who-earns-more
The article clearly explains Public School teachers on average with benefits earn more.

I still maintain Public School teachers earn too much for the results they produce.
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I saw the link. I just don't find it very believable.

Maybe there are a bunch of small place pulling down the average... I don't know. The claim just doesn't jive with what is seen IRL.
 
zizo911 said:
It's not always our fault. The majority of us is hard working and have many sleepless nights. Please think before you comment. It's not an easy job being a teacher, it is hard work. And holidays are also spent working.
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Hard work... from 8am to 2pm.
With 60+ day's leave paid per year.
With housing subsidy.
With medical aid.
With guaranteed pension.
Hideous; Horrible; Horrendous.

I'd rather be a doctor or engineer or electrician - much easier.
 
system32 said:
Hard work... from 8am to 2pm.
With 60+ day's leave paid per year.
With housing subsidy.
With medical aid.
With guaranteed pension.
Hideous; Horrible; Horrendous.

I'd rather be a doctor or engineer or electrician - much easier.
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You know nothing.
A teacher's life is nothing like that. A proper teacher, anyway.
 
zizo911 said:
It's not always our fault. The majority of us is hard working and have many sleepless nights. Please think before you comment. It's not an easy job being a teacher, it is hard work. And holidays are also spent working.
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*are

#teacher
 
system32 said:
Hard work... from 8am to 2pm.
With 60+ day's leave paid per year.
With housing subsidy.
With medical aid.
With guaranteed pension.
Hideous; Horrible; Horrendous.
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Maybe that's true in the rural, government run schools where teachers don't even bother to go to work but my wife is now an ex-teacher and I also have friends and relatives who are teachers in both government and private schools.

My wife was working from 6:30 AM (teachers meetings in the morning) till 10PM (extra mural activities) at least three days a week.
The other days she was at work from 6:30 AM till 4:00 PM (normal work day).
Then there is the setting of exams, marking and reports which one has to fit somewhere into your schedule between 10PM and 6:30AM.
Then there are extramural sports activities on Saturdays from 5AM (swimming teams) till mid day.
Then there are the PTA meetings, cultural awards evenings, etc.

So she was working about 310 hours per month (72 hours per week) without any remuneration for overtime worked and that excludes the time needed for marking exams and all the other paper work. It was just a matter of time before she burnt out.
She's now an ex-teacher after 10+ years of teaching at private schools.
The schools in this country (particularly privately run) can go down the drain for all I care. They do not value their staff and they do not pay their staff enough for the amount of work they do.

Three months of leave (of which at least half of it is spent working) doesn't mend one's soul and body. It's not worth it.
 
Paul_S said:
Maybe that's true in the rural, government run schools where teachers don't even bother to go to work but my wife is now an ex-teacher and I also have friends and relatives who are teachers in both government and private schools.

My wife was working from 6:30 AM (teachers meetings in the morning) till 10PM (extra mural activities) at least three days a week.
The other days she was at work from 6:30 AM till 4:00 PM (normal work day).
Then there is the setting of exams, marking and reports which one has to fit somewhere into your schedule between 10PM and 6:30AM.
Then there are extramural sports activities on Saturdays from 5AM (swimming teams) till mid day.
Then there are the PTA meetings, cultural awards evenings, etc.

So she was working about 310 hours per month (72 hours per week) without any remuneration for overtime worked and that excludes the time needed for marking exams and all the other paper work. It was just a matter of time before she burnt out.
She's now an ex-teacher after 10+ years of teaching at private schools.
The schools in this country (particularly privately run) can go down the drain for all I care. They do not value their staff and they do not pay their staff enough for the amount of work they do.

Three months of leave (of which at least half of it is spent working) doesn't mend one's soul and body. It's not worth it.
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This is the life of a real teacher...
+100000
 
I just finished reading Malcolm Gladwells' "Outliers", and now realise how off the mark South Africa is regarding education.

It requires radical change that I don't think this Government is capable of. Its not about making the results look good, its about being good despite the results.

South Africans have become lazy beyond repair, and this culture has trickled down to the children from whom we now expect to do Calculus and Programming at international standards.

One day we will be looking at an analysis of why this generation was the worst ever, and I hope that we blame the education system and not some previously disadvantaged BS story.
 
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Sapphiron said:
3 simple steps for formulating a strategy to fix education in sa.
1. Adopt a 50% pass rate. No failed subjects allowed.
2. Teacher must maintain a 80% pass rate each year on the same exams.
3. Double the salaries of the teaching profession so you attract the right people.

It not everything, but its a start.
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