Matter will corrode before Telkom gives up the loop

Typical.

And in the end wireless will be faster and better than traditional fixed-wires... and by then nobody'll want fixed wires, because of signal degradation.

Because nobody'll want fixed wires, the market will be very small.

And because the market will be small, telkom won't make a profit.


I've been wrong
I had plans so big
But the devil's in the details
I left out one thing
No one to love me
And no one to love

For the want of a nail (the world was lost)
For the want of a nail (the world was lost)
For the want of a nail (the world was lost)
For the want of a nail (the world was lost)

For the want of a nail, the shoe was lost
For the want of a shoe, the horse was lost
For the want of a horse, the rider was lost
For the want of a rider, the message was lost

For the want of a rider, the message was lost
For the want of a message, the battle was lost
For the want of a battle, the war was lost
For the want of a war, the kingdom was lost

What's all this talk about horses and war?
Put yourself in the place of the man at the forge
And day after day you live a life without love
Til the morning you can't take it anymore
And you don't get up

Multiply it a billion times
Spread it all around the world
Put the curse of loneliness on every boy and every girl
Until everybody's kickin', everybody's scratchin'
Everything seems to fail,
And it was all for the want of a nail

http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/camp/thewantofanail.htm
 
It's what I've been saying for a long time.

We need to a clear strategy for the future i.e. guidelines about the process of laying cables, copper, fibre. It's entirely ridiculous that one company digs up the sidewalk, lays their cables and then closes it up. Then the next one starts. Besides the obvious cost, the inconvenience and damage caused is unbearable.

City Councils should work with Icasa to form a policy which all the operators must agree to. In order for them to dig up the sidewalks, they should be follow a process whereby other companies can lay cables in the same tunnels.

This should be the idea of LLU for the future.
 
Even putting aside the regulatory bungling, the business case for traditional copper LLU still looks shaky at best.

There are too few users per exchange & too little ARPU for each to make it financially exciting to unbundle more than maybe the top 25-30 exchanges situated areas of high economic activity and personal income. A couple of high capacity corporate fibre connections will genetrate more revenue than an unbundled exchange (assuming you can even get to 20-25% share of ports). You can understand why Neotel etc. are concentrating their efforts in this direction with their fiber rollouts.

Copper LLU is not going to make a big dent even if the gov/regulated get their act sorted out. I've always maintained the regulator should be focusing on Bitstream services (access loop unbundling instead of just the local loop). This will allow new entrants to play in a much larger catchment area (i.e. the whole country) where the larger scale starts making better financial sense.
 
aadil said:
We need to a clear strategy for the future i.e. guidelines about the process of laying cables, copper, fibre. It's entirely ridiculous that one company digs up the sidewalk, lays their cables and then closes it up. Then the next one starts.
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yes buts it's job creation.
 
Tns said:
yes buts it's job creation.
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Well it appears that Telkom and Neotel are working nicely together down this way.... All the vehicles used by Biz Afrika service provider contracted to TelkomSA up in WestRiding a few weeks ago have now dug up our verges and laid cables and claim NOW to be working for Neotel....
Competition to Telkom? hahahahahahahaha.....:D
 
Well, let the monkeys fight over the last banana while the rest of humanity quietly goes off and plants new banana trees.
 
The Insider suspects that by the time the government and Icasa finally let other companies use those wires, the copper will have corroded.
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Strangely enough, a lot of the copper still in use today, corroded a long time ago, if only cable thieves could be encouraged to target the older cables that need to be replaced anyway.
 
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