[May 2013..Dec 2013] The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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This is not true.

Explain why! We have lots of coal reserves to make us fairly self sufficient and will create many jobs at the same time. Imagine 10-20 Sasols. Just look at Venezuela what can be done for the local people, a country's most valuable resource IF you have a government with brains that are able to do the best they can for their people instead of doing the best for their own pockets like our ZumaZombies.
 
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Explain why! We have lots of coal reserves to make us fairly self sufficient and will create many jobs at the same time. Imagine 10-20 Sasols. Just look at Venezuela what can be done for the local people, a country's most valuable resource IF you have a government with brains that are able to do the best they can for their people instead of doing the best for their own pockets like our ZumaZombies.

Venezuela? government with brains? Really, are you even going to TRY that one?
 
That Sasol are being prevented from making more fuel from liquids or gas here.

If memory serves; automotive fuel isn’t really Sasol’s core business. As such, increasing their capacity for petrol production would most likely increase the volumes of other products produced. Market demand (for all products) vs CAPEX is probably the main reason why they’re not expanding too much in this direction.
 
If memory serves; automotive fuel isn’t really Sasol’s core business. As such, increasing their capacity for petrol production would most likely increase the volumes of other products produced. Market demand (for all products) vs CAPEX is probably the main reason why they’re not expanding too much in this direction.

The majority of their profits come from fuel. The other things they sell are by products of the fuel making process - when chemical prices were good they made money off chemical but their core money is still fuels.
 
Venezuela? government with brains? Really, are you even going to TRY that one?

Comprehend much? Explain how is it possible that they only pay 11c/liter for fuel if they could ask a international "market" related price like they do for everything produced in South Africa.
 
The majority of their profits come from fuel. The other things they sell are by products of the fuel making process - when chemical prices were good they made money off chemical but their core money is still fuels.
Hmmm, got it the wrong way around then. My bad. :)
 
What is Really Behind SANRAL's E-Toll Delay?

Last month, Kapsch TrafficCom (Austria), the majority partner Electronic Toll Collection Joint Venture (ETC), announced their annual revenues would be boosted by €50 million (over R650m) from their share of the GFIP eToll proceeds. This announcement to the international investment community by Kapsch’s Andre Laux had an almost immediate impact of an improved share price on the day. SANRAL conveniently responded in South Africa, that ‘the foreign shareholders in ETC would only get dividends’ and deliberately avoided the obvious question of clarifying how much in dividends.

Last Friday, Bloomberg reported, that Kapsch TraffiCom saw their share price drop by as much as 4.1% on reports that ‘a South African project that was expected to start this month has been delayed’. Despite being reported by several South African media over the weekend, SANRAL have yet to explain or qualify why the share price of their ‘foreign shareholders’ would have dropped on word of yet another eToll project delay, when no such public statement was made by them or the Department of Transport on the matter.

“The delay is however evident and quite frankly, the eTolling debacle has been no stranger to delays” says Wayne Duvenage, the Chairperson of OUTA. “On 10th April, Sanral announced that eTolling would commence within two months and we are nearing four months after that statement was made. This program is now two and a half years and several launches behind their initial start date of April 2011. We also recall the Constitutional Court arguments in August 2102, when SANRAL and Treasury’s counsel were a pains to stress the urgent need to start tolling, lest their credit ratings were further impaired and much needed income was delayed. Ten months have since passed and they now claim to await legislative amendments and approvals before they can start.”

OUTA is not blind to Government’s intention to press ahead with the launch of eTolling, sticking to their ‘user pay’ argument, which was based on the benefits accrued to society by their plan. These same benefits, however, were seriously questioned by the then Minister of Transport, Mr Sibusiso Ndebele, who, when responding to a question in Parliament on the 28October 2011 said in reference to the GFIP “the projected benefits to road users may, therefore, unfortunately not be forthcoming”. The upgraded freeways have been used for over two years now, yet neither SANRAL nor the Government have used this live opportunity for further data or analysis to satisfy the substantial challenge to their theoretical and largely academic benefits model, which has been rejected by acknowledged main stream economists in the country.

OUTA notes with interest SANRAL’s expression of ‘outrage’ against the bid-rigging & collusive behavior displayed by the construction companies, on the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project (GFIP), to the Competition Tribunal. SANRAL have also indicated they may seek civil damage claims from the construction companies, as a result of this situation. In OUTA’s opinion, the word ‘outrage’ should spur SANRAL on to take every action possible, civil or otherwise, to fetch the overcharges from the colluding players and pass this money back to the road infrastructure project. “No stone should be left unturned in this regard and we are eager to see this action transpire,” says Duvenage.

OUTA’s members continue to be overwhelmed by the extent of support across all income groups and the wide spectra of public, business, unions, civil, political and religious groups. Indeed OUTA is further comforted in the report by the recent Presidential commission on State Owned Enterprise which does not find support for the application of user pay charges for social infrastructure such as roads. In OUTA’s opinion, any consideration to force the implementation of eTolls will be met by resistance on the highways, low levels of compliance, higher costs and more importantly, at the ballot box next year when citizen’s will then hold the real power.

“There are far too many negative factors that weigh against the eToll decision when compared to the negligible gains that will come therefrom,”says Duvenage. “We sincerely hope the new Minister of Transport will apply her mind and take note of the myriad of issues at stake. No level of SANRAL marketing spend will ever achieve society’s confidence in this system and Ms Peters would be wise to choose the less costly route of honest and open consultation to find and apply an alternative funding mechanism that is more equitable, economical and efficient.”
- See more at: http://www.outa.co.za/site/what-is-really-behind-sanrals-etoll-delay/#sthash.dNuo8BFG.dpuf

http://www.outa.co.za/site/what-is-really-behind-sanrals-etoll-delay/
 
August 2102 :D The day after the e-toll system became self-aware.
 
Sanral is running out of money

Johannesburg - The South African National Roads Agency, which is facing resistance to a toll-fee plan on freeways around Johannesburg and Pretoria, said investors are reluctant to provide more funding as it runs out of cash after delays to the project.

“Sanral has almost totally depleted its available cash,” Vusi Mona, general manager of communications for the Pretoria-based state-owned company, said in an e-mailed response to questions yesterday.

“We’re not able to fund ourselves any further, due to investors not feeling comfortable with our risk profile.”

The electronic tolling system in South Africa’s Gauteng province, the main commercial hub, was due to start this month and has been repeatedly delayed after opposition from drivers, opposition parties, labor unions and car-rental agencies.

While the infrastructure is ready and available, Sanral still needs President Jacob Zuma to sign the relevant bill into law, enabling the company to go ahead with the project, Mona said.

Sanral borrowed 20 billion rand ($2.1 billion) to fund the Gauteng Freeway Improvement Project, some of which was completed before the hosting of the 2010 Soccer World Cup.

It has debt, including interest, of 65 billion rand and 1.48 billion rand of bonds which reach maturity at the end of October, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Yields on the company’s 7.16 billion rand of notes due July 2020 have jumped 95 basis points, or 0.95 percentage point, this year to 7.82 percent yesterday, compared with an increase of 98 basis points in similar-dated government debt.

The government in May last year said it guaranteed 56 percent of Sanral’s 37.9 billion rand principal debt at the time and is also liable for unguaranteed debt of 14.1 billion rand.

No Assistance

“We’ve requested further assistance,” Sanral’s Mona said, adding that the lack of funding is also affecting maintenance on existing toll roads.

The “government is not in a position to provide any further assistance, other than the guarantee.”

The National Treasury said it hasn’t been asked to provide more funding.

“Treasury hasn’t been approached for further financial assistance for Sanral,” it said in an e-mailed response to questions yesterday.

“Such assistance would be hard, if not impossible, given the difficult economic environment we’re in.”

The 2.2 million-member Congress of South African Trade Unions, the country’s largest labor grouping, has rejected the tolls and urged motorists not to pay, organising protests in Johannesburg and Pretoria earlier this year where groups of people intentionally drove slowly to stall traffic.

The government in October lowered the fees after the nation’s Constitutional Court overturned overturned a lower court ruling blocking the tariffs.

Project Losses

Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan is limiting spending growth for the next three years to rein in the fiscal deficit as slowing growth in Africa’s biggest economy amid mining strikes and a recession in Europe curbs exports and curtails tax revenue.

The National Treasury last year gave Sanral 5.75 billion rand to help pay for the improvement of 185 kilometres (115 miles) of highways around Gauteng.

Kapsch TrafficCom AG, an Austrian maker of road-toll systems that will collect the fees, posted three straight quarterly losses in the fiscal year ended March 31, partly because of delays.

The company said the project would boost revenue by more than 50 million euros ($66 million) a year. - Bloomberg News

http://www.iol.co.za/business/companies/sanral-is-running-out-of-money-1.1551874?utm_medium=[%27facebook%27]&utm_source=dlvr.it
 
I almost feel sorry for them if they weren't trying to blackmail and extort every single person in this country.
 
Yay! Some good news for a change.
The tax payers will end up paying one way or the other but it's good that this issue is finally coming to the boiling point.

SANRAL must recover money from the construction companies who were colluding to keep construction costs inflated and then government must use tax payer money to settle outstanding balance of SANRAL's debt.
Kapsch TrafficCom AG and the scoundrels who signed the contract can go bankrupt for all I care.
 
Government (SANRAL is government) implimenting e-tolls just before national and provincial elections? Gotta love it!

If they had really wanted to implement it, they would have implemented it in the week after the court ruling againt OUTA, but they are not competent enough!
 
Sanral’s Mona said, adding that the lack of funding is also affecting maintenance on existing toll roads.

That is either a blatant lie or they run that business like a ponzi scheme.

Why on earth would they fund maintenance of existing roads through the debt capital markets? They wouldn't. No investor would touch such a bond issuance as there is no possible cash flow within the deal. The only conclusion that one can draw from this statement is that they are cross subsidising etolling with funds generated from other income streams, which is blatant mismanagement and shows an incredible lack of financial prudence.

This statement, as a matter of urgency needs to be followed up on. Both the cfo and ceo could and should be dismissed if this is true, that they are funding etolling with existing revenue streams intended for maintenance of existing roads.

I am quite taken aback by this sort of thing. Absolutely appalling if this is true...
 
That is either a blatant lie or they run that business like a ponzi scheme.

Why on earth would they fund maintenance of existing roads through the debt capital markets? They wouldn't. No investor would touch such a bond issuance as there is no possible cash flow within the deal. The only conclusion that one can draw from this statement is that they are cross subsidising etolling with funds generated from other income streams, which is blatant mismanagement and shows an incredible lack of financial prudence.

This statement, as a matter of urgency needs to be followed up on. Both the cfo and ceo could and should be dismissed if this is true, that they are funding etolling with existing revenue streams intended for maintenance of existing roads.

I am quite taken aback by this sort of thing. Absolutely appalling if this is true...

Basically they're using their road maintenance budget to pay the interest on their bribes.
 
Kapsch TrafficCom AG and the scoundrels who signed the contract can go bankrupt for all I care.

Kapsch isn't the bad guy here. They provided the service that they were required to do. The scoundrels are SANRAL and the DOT who allowed this insanely inefficient system to be chosen.
 
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