[May 2013..Dec 2013] The Gauteng E-tolling Thread

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A quick question. Is there a comprehensive list of how the billing and payment process works for non-etag users. Currently, most of the info circulating doesn't spell it out in detail or is either SANRAL spin or copy and paste hearsay or newspaper sensationalism. .

Maybe the terms and conditions will shed a little more light on it for you. See from page 7 onwards for details in regards to payments and non payments etc...

http://www.sanral.co.za/e-toll/app/gort_xml/files/content/documents/e-toll_TermsAndConditions.pdf
 
Maybe the terms and conditions will shed a little more light on it for you. See from page 7 onwards for details in regards to payments and non payments etc...

http://www.sanral.co.za/e-toll/app/gort_xml/files/content/documents/e-toll_TermsAndConditions.pdf

The problem is that the terms and conditions only apply to registered e-toll users (e-tag, registered VLN users, day pass) and does not cover what SANRAL term a "Non Registered VLN User".

The title of the terms and conditions document: "New terms and conditions for people and organisations who register with Sanral"
 
But I don't register so I don't agree to the T&Cs

I should've stated my intent regarding the line of questioning. The process is so laborious and the operations to managed it is so inefficiently designed, it is close to the point of insanity. And I'm asking the questions. What happened the other millions of possible road users that are not proactive trying to find the answers?
 
How do you justify paying for something without an invoice to back it up the payment?
 
Regarding the criminal prosecution. Of the company belongs to a company, who will they prosecute. The directors?
 
And another Question. What if I tow a car? To which car will they charge it to?

(Okay, I'm trolling a bit, but they are relevant questions)
 
http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/indus...tion-to-be-easy-sanral-1.1611686#.UpMKHsRmh8E

Roads agency Sanral is expecting smooth revenue collection through e-tolling, Transport Minister Dipuo Peters said on Sunday.

“The system is ready. We expect a smooth process from December 3,” Peters told media at a briefing on the e-tolling system's readiness.

The briefing took place at the Sanral operations centre in Midrand from where the e-tolling system is operated.

The system had been operating for the past 18 months, and Sanral was able to test the system without billing road users.

Peters said reports that revenue collected through e-tolling would go offshore was a myth.

“There are local firms that are participants and service providers of various aspects of the system. At least 90 percent of software being used to operate the system was developed locally.”

The system included emergency and vehicle-towing services on the province's highways. High performance cameras had been mounted on the gantries and were being monitored at the operations centre.

“These services would be operated 24 hours a day... these are some of the benefits of using the tolled highways,” she said.

Peters criticised those who opposed e-tolling and said it was time they moved on.

The National Union of Metalworkers of SA (Numsa) was misleading motorists, she said.

The union criticised e-tolling after Peters announced the December 3 date, saying road users should refrain from voting for the ANC at next year's general elections.

“I did not expect a union to say such. We will need more roads and good infrastructure even after the elections.

“Numsa is misleading the public, unless it wants to tell us that it is transforming itself into a political party...”

She labelled the Democratic Alliance as “politically bankrupt” for putting up anti-tolling billboards along the highways.

Sanral chief executive Nazir Alli said those who did not pay would face the law.

Motorists were expected to pay within seven days after receiving e-toll bills or they would be handed over to debt collectors, he said.

“If debt collection fails, the Criminal Procedure Act will come into effect and such motorists will receive summons to that effect.”

Alli said at least 700 000 people had already registered for e-tags.

“At least 100 000 registered between October and November after we announced the tariffs. We expect more to get tagged,” Alli said.

He said those who registered and bought e-tags would receive a 48 percent discount. -Sapa

Bwahahahahaha.
 
He said those who registered and bought e-tags would receive a 48 percent discount

Extreme couponing. Take the 48% discount off the max amount and apply it to the price listed next to the gantry. SANRAL will be paying us.
 
He said those who registered and bought e-tags would receive a 48 percent discount.

That should actually read - "He said those who registered and signed away several of their rights and bought e-tags would receive a 48 percent discount. Those who refuse to sign away their rights will be penalized by having to pay double even if they pay on the same day. South Africans are not unfamiliar with discrimination and we believe that they will willingly bend over and take this."
 
they dug up the R21 again, this is now the 5 or 6 time.
We have to pay for a road not build to last one year.

Lovely.
 
they dug up the R21 again, this is now the 5 or 6 time.
We have to pay for a road not build to last one year.

Lovely.

The ongoing overpriced ineffective maintenance is part of the business model. That's why etolls will last forever.
 
who gave Sanral the right to use my number plate to do research?

Was also thinking that. If those gantries have been collecting data for over a year, is there no law requiring them to contact us or to delete such data if no consent is given?
 
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