placebo
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From what I heard from my DA friend I expect he was.Only time will tell.News reports these days are more leaning towards sensationalism rather than accurate reporting.
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From what I heard from my DA friend I expect he was.Only time will tell.News reports these days are more leaning towards sensationalism rather than accurate reporting.
I doubt your friend has any actual idea of what is going to happen. Anyway, I wouldn't be too worried - no need to get stressed just yet.
Doesn't make it right, though.
Vrotappel
Bulls fan
This country is so fugged... I should never have voted yes.
His staying
marine1
Honorary Master
a lot of things happening at the same time, I wonder if we will see the soccer at all??
Hosehead
Executive Member
True. The ANC rules. Not Mbeki. He's never been home anyway and nobody really noticed.
You know what, you guys can cheer his leaving all you want but I have great respect for this man. Reading about him is making me really sad. Lets face it, he put us on the map people. Diplomatic relations, 2010, trade. He did well.
Because of his capitalist nature, most of us here have done well, lets face it, we can afford the internet and we are not taxed to death.
The fact that South Africans are majority poor has this bafoon socialist Zuma into power. This means rise of tax and uncertainty that will lead to brain drain.
I don't see a great future for SA but I do see one, and its not shyte. I hope that Zuma does something right, and thats education.
Thats all we really need to iron out this mass ignorance. Only then I see a great South Africa...
Because of his capitalist nature, most of us here have done well, lets face it, we can afford the internet and we are not taxed to death.
The fact that South Africans are majority poor has this bafoon socialist Zuma into power. This means rise of tax and uncertainty that will lead to brain drain.
I don't see a great future for SA but I do see one, and its not shyte. I hope that Zuma does something right, and thats education.
Thats all we really need to iron out this mass ignorance. Only then I see a great South Africa...
Oh I think you'll know the difference soon enough. I keep wondering, "why the big rush" to kick Mbeki out, if elections were just a year away and victory was all but assured anyway? Something is cooking. This surely can't just be about squashing the Zuma trial. This also suggests to us things such as, Malema isn't just some harmless barking yap dog but someone whose agenda is not only serious but backed by massive power at the highest levels. It also tells us who is pulling the strings, who is in charge, that they are serious - and it's the worst imaginable, the violent far left. And why would they be doing this if they weren't eager for e.g. policy change? I suspect we're about to see a more truly communist era for SA ushered in, quickly, and it will not be pretty.
Anyone who cheers this just because Mbeki was lousy (and I've met several people who are cheering), is insanely delusional and in a state of such psychological denial that professional help is warranted. There is almost no way this is a good thing people. This just shows how low our standards have become. In spirit this borders on a military coup. One must realise that just because it remains the ANC, we're talking about very different groups of people internally with different ideologies.
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d0b33
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Thabo Mbeki forced out as rival Jacob Zuma seizes power
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article4795116.ece
Kimosabe
Senior Member
Its madness whats going on. Really.
Mbeki out, I didn't like him. But then again rather the devil you know.
Zuma wants to be in power, I am sure we can see that in the coming days that he will appoint himself as president of South Africa. As its would be impossible for SA to be leaderless for close to a year. Then elections come round, we can see him winning by a massive majority. When the ANC controls the most seats in parliament, they will change the Constitution to what ever they want it to. Its happened in just about every other country in Africa, and we can be sure it will happen again.
And hell help us if anything bad should happen to the economy in South Africa during that time. The first thing that most dictators do is always focus the attention on other people as the main cause of trouble. I think we all know were that will be...
New Zealand here I come.
Mbeki out, I didn't like him. But then again rather the devil you know.
Zuma wants to be in power, I am sure we can see that in the coming days that he will appoint himself as president of South Africa. As its would be impossible for SA to be leaderless for close to a year. Then elections come round, we can see him winning by a massive majority. When the ANC controls the most seats in parliament, they will change the Constitution to what ever they want it to. Its happened in just about every other country in Africa, and we can be sure it will happen again.
And hell help us if anything bad should happen to the economy in South Africa during that time. The first thing that most dictators do is always focus the attention on other people as the main cause of trouble. I think we all know were that will be...
New Zealand here I come.
Rendier
Expert Member
The really funny part is that this story didn't make the Front page on any of the BIG news corps such as CNN BBC etc...
I think the ANCYL are the scum of the earth. They support a man because of his culture, not because of his achievements (not that there are any). They threaten South Africans by saying they will kill for a man and nothing gets said or done against them. Malema is so far up Zuma's ass he can just tilt his head and Zuma's prostate will be checked.
People... Is this truly the South Africa we wanted? Forget about the current news. Just think for a second, do you love this country for what it is right now? I am 25, had nothing to do with Apartheid but yet im blamed for it and told to leave because I "don't belong here". What type of monster tells you you are not a African because you are white?
This country isn't South Africa anymore. The ANC should rename this country because they are giving it a really bad name. Rather let the world remember it as something else because this is not the country we had 14 years ago. Yes black people had it bad but if a COMPETENT party took over 14 years ago this country would be a Canada or an Australia, not the Capital of murder, rape, HIV etc.
I can't believe the people would still vote for a party that has given the country so much pain and suffering, it truly amazes me that people can be so ignorant and stupid. They had great ppl that could have been the president such as Sexwhale, Rhamaphosa but no... they voted for the most pathetic, ignorant and un-intelligent man possible...ZUMA.
The time has come where Apartheid can't be blamed anymore, the real people to blame are the ANC, ANCYL, and all of their die hard supporters than wants a better life for themselves and not South Africa. And here I thought Ubuntu was an African thing... seems to me it just ended up being crap.
As a young South African I am not only disappointed in the ANC but also in the DA, UDM etc for not putting aside their differences and standing together.
This country needs PROPER LEADERSHIP people put in key positions because they CAN make a difference, not people that deserves to be there because of what they did back in the day to fight Apartheid. I find that is what the ANC is all about... Rewarding their comrades by giving them minister positions.
I will even go so far as to say that the ANC does not care about the well being of the white man (we all know it but won't say it out loud). I don't even have to dig that far to prove it... Here you have Zuma who sings a song in 2008 that refers to killing white people because of oppression from white people. Why sing a song like that in the NEW South Africa? Why stir up that emotions? Why sing it at a youth rally where 99% of those youths didn't even experience Apartheid? DON'T tell me it's a culture thing because that is utter b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t.
I leave you with this...
Barack Obama almost lost the nominational vote from the Democrats because he admitted to smoking weed and trying out drugs.
Jacob Zuma has had Rape and Corruption charges against him, said HIV can be washed away and sings a song about killing people and yet he not only stays on as an ANC member but becomes President of the ANC and gets congratulated by people threatening to kill for him and make the country ungovernable if he doesn't become the president of South Africa.
GO FIGURE...
VIVA SOUTH AFRICA!
I think the ANCYL are the scum of the earth. They support a man because of his culture, not because of his achievements (not that there are any). They threaten South Africans by saying they will kill for a man and nothing gets said or done against them. Malema is so far up Zuma's ass he can just tilt his head and Zuma's prostate will be checked.
People... Is this truly the South Africa we wanted? Forget about the current news. Just think for a second, do you love this country for what it is right now? I am 25, had nothing to do with Apartheid but yet im blamed for it and told to leave because I "don't belong here". What type of monster tells you you are not a African because you are white?
This country isn't South Africa anymore. The ANC should rename this country because they are giving it a really bad name. Rather let the world remember it as something else because this is not the country we had 14 years ago. Yes black people had it bad but if a COMPETENT party took over 14 years ago this country would be a Canada or an Australia, not the Capital of murder, rape, HIV etc.
I can't believe the people would still vote for a party that has given the country so much pain and suffering, it truly amazes me that people can be so ignorant and stupid. They had great ppl that could have been the president such as Sexwhale, Rhamaphosa but no... they voted for the most pathetic, ignorant and un-intelligent man possible...ZUMA.
The time has come where Apartheid can't be blamed anymore, the real people to blame are the ANC, ANCYL, and all of their die hard supporters than wants a better life for themselves and not South Africa. And here I thought Ubuntu was an African thing... seems to me it just ended up being crap.
As a young South African I am not only disappointed in the ANC but also in the DA, UDM etc for not putting aside their differences and standing together.
This country needs PROPER LEADERSHIP people put in key positions because they CAN make a difference, not people that deserves to be there because of what they did back in the day to fight Apartheid. I find that is what the ANC is all about... Rewarding their comrades by giving them minister positions.
I will even go so far as to say that the ANC does not care about the well being of the white man (we all know it but won't say it out loud). I don't even have to dig that far to prove it... Here you have Zuma who sings a song in 2008 that refers to killing white people because of oppression from white people. Why sing a song like that in the NEW South Africa? Why stir up that emotions? Why sing it at a youth rally where 99% of those youths didn't even experience Apartheid? DON'T tell me it's a culture thing because that is utter b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t.
I leave you with this...
Barack Obama almost lost the nominational vote from the Democrats because he admitted to smoking weed and trying out drugs.
Jacob Zuma has had Rape and Corruption charges against him, said HIV can be washed away and sings a song about killing people and yet he not only stays on as an ANC member but becomes President of the ANC and gets congratulated by people threatening to kill for him and make the country ungovernable if he doesn't become the president of South Africa.
GO FIGURE...
VIVA SOUTH AFRICA!
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Road runner
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Good summary of my feelings as well thanks Rendier, my hope is that my boys make it out of here to NZ or Canada. As for myself, well i am too old to move already. So ekke sal maar moet vasbyt! 
Big PR Drive
I think I see what the ANC are trying to do?
Basically the popularity of this organisation has gone south over the last while, mostly from heckling within the organisation itself and a multitude of other issues, ranging from failed policies in Zimbabwe, AIDS, Alienation of Minority Groups, Home Affairs and a list that can fill a page.
With the 2009 Election approaching they need to change this view very quickly and the only way they might be able to achieve this is through some serious arse kissing and Mbeki the quiet man is he is isn't too great on the PR front, so he has to go.
People like Zuma who I am amazed has come as far as he has btw, has the charisma to turn the crowd and here I mean any crowd be they minority or otherwise. So I am expecting a major PR drive full of promises to the whole South Africa right up until the elections. The PR drive will be of such a nature even some of the hard arsed minority groups will be singing Zuma's praise at the end of it.
Just wait and see - this is all about acquiring more than 66.6% of the votes next year so that Zuma et al can start their new agenda whatever that is, positive or negative. Just cannot read this man, which is of great concern to me and I reckon many people in this country feel the same way - hence I think the huge PR drive I think the ANC have got in store for us.
Put it to you this way. If I was in politics this is what I would be doing. Making amends with your voters.
Just hope Mr Zuma if he become President turns out to prove the media and all the critics wrong and I say this because I love my country and am concerned about it's future.
I think I see what the ANC are trying to do?
Basically the popularity of this organisation has gone south over the last while, mostly from heckling within the organisation itself and a multitude of other issues, ranging from failed policies in Zimbabwe, AIDS, Alienation of Minority Groups, Home Affairs and a list that can fill a page.
With the 2009 Election approaching they need to change this view very quickly and the only way they might be able to achieve this is through some serious arse kissing and Mbeki the quiet man is he is isn't too great on the PR front, so he has to go.
People like Zuma who I am amazed has come as far as he has btw, has the charisma to turn the crowd and here I mean any crowd be they minority or otherwise. So I am expecting a major PR drive full of promises to the whole South Africa right up until the elections. The PR drive will be of such a nature even some of the hard arsed minority groups will be singing Zuma's praise at the end of it.
Just wait and see - this is all about acquiring more than 66.6% of the votes next year so that Zuma et al can start their new agenda whatever that is, positive or negative. Just cannot read this man, which is of great concern to me and I reckon many people in this country feel the same way - hence I think the huge PR drive I think the ANC have got in store for us.
Put it to you this way. If I was in politics this is what I would be doing. Making amends with your voters.
Just hope Mr Zuma if he become President turns out to prove the media and all the critics wrong and I say this because I love my country and am concerned about it's future.
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So...how long does it take to acquire a passport if I apply now?