MEC in Speeding cavalcade pile-up

Well this is true... but also obvious. Most people spend proportionally more time in their vehicles closer to home (you have to leave and return every day). It's like saying "it's always in the last place you look"...well of course it is, because you stop looking.

Yeah but look at the speeds involved and how dense the traffic is. Neighborhoods generally don't have heavy traffic and you don't often have people going 120km plus.

You would think that under those circumstances people would have less accidents. Also you get far less multiple death accidents which obviously are more likely to make the news.
 
Actually, I'm less worried on the freeway than I am on small suburb roads.

a: less room to maneuver
b: more intersections
c: generally less visible range
d: intersections tend to have bushes, etc for cover
e: speed bumps in stupid places, like around the apex of a corner
f: kids, pets, drunken people wandering onto the road
g: people backing 4x4s out of their driveways
h: some people do ignore stop streets and speed on these small roads, particularly late at night when I tend to be on the road

There are probably more, but these are the things that bother me most about driving in built-up areas.
 
In Moscow you can "arrange" to have a blue light put on your car which then entitles you to disregard all traffic laws. I don't think we're too far away from that either.


In South Africa you can disregard traffic laws.
In Soviet Russia the traffic laws disregard you. :)
 
Actually, I'm less worried on the freeway than I am on small suburb roads.

a: less room to maneuver
b: more intersections
c: generally less visible range
d: intersections tend to have bushes, etc for cover
e: speed bumps in stupid places, like around the apex of a corner
f: kids, pets, drunken people wandering onto the road
g: people backing 4x4s out of their driveways
h: some people do ignore stop streets and speed on these small roads, particularly late at night when I tend to be on the road

There are probably more, but these are the things that bother me most about driving in built-up areas.

True especially if you're on a bike.

Personally I worry more about "main roads". Like the R103(I think that's right). It's like the worst of both worlds(Highway and suburban)
 
Those motorcades irritate the hell out of me the lead vehicle's front wheels were on my bakkies loadbay, I had nowhere to go (no gaps in the left lane) and even though i moved as far left as possible they wouldnt go round in the emergency lane as they normally do.
So my choices where speed up and get caught by the permanent speed camera coming up or drive with a merc 230 Kompressor stapled to my bumper untill I pass the 5 cars in the left lane. I chose the stapled option.

On a side note I did a trip out to Ashton today from Cape Town and passed 4 police cars with the officers driving while talking on their cell phones .....
I got fined R400 just for having one in my hand wasnt even talking on it.
Law says you may not hold or operate a cellular telephone while driving.
Makes me wanna strangle them ......
 
Gunny, oh but they're allowed to use them because they need to use them for their jobs... (apparently)
 
Those motorcades irritate the hell out of me the lead vehicle's front wheels were on my bakkies loadbay, I had nowhere to go (no gaps in the left lane) and even though i moved as far left as possible they wouldnt go round in the emergency lane as they normally do.
I was almost taken out by these buffoons once when they ignored a 4 way stop and have no time for their antics.
Someone comes and pushes me like that in the traffic I will just apply the brakes, my car is old and paid for, could do with a new one. If they dont tailgate me I will slow down to a stop and there is nothing they can do about it, nothing. To hell with these clowns that gamble with our safety.
 
According to "the Witness" KZN Premier S'bu Ndebele got into an argument with a PMB resident about his speeding motorcade on the way to David Rattray' funeral.

Then S'bu brought up the incident in response to the debate in his state of the province address while criticising the IFP on the need for frugality

Now here is the interesting part

Quote from the article:

Sharpe's anger was clearly over the fact that black people were attending the funeral. He said the word of the white person is taken as gospel and people are ready to accept that Sharp was telling the truth over the premier. He said the incident was taken up by the media, who never questioned him at all.

Eish :o

It's alway racial isn't it S'bu :sick:

Yebo :rolleyes:
 
Recently I was on my way to an appointment (late as usual) when one of these cavalcades came screaming past me, lights flashing and hooters tooting. I put my lights on, flashed my flashers and latched on to the end of their convoy getting to my appointment with time to spare:D They were not even aware that 'a squatter' was on their tail:eek: :eek:
 
I think in regards to the Rattray incident, Sharpe needs to publically challenge Sbu Ndebele. This cavalcade bull needs to stop and ASAP.
 
Recently I was on my way to an appointment (late as usual) when one of these cavalcades came screaming past me, lights flashing and hooters tooting. I put my lights on, flashed my flashers and latched on to the end of their convoy getting to my appointment with time to spare:D They were not even aware that 'a squatter' was on their tail:eek: :eek:
Excellent move blonde one, what max speed where they doing.
I have seen a Merc Vito with the flashing lights at Cape Town domestic departures, treated as a VIP taxi service for goodness know which VIP, gets u a good parking spot close to the front door.
We should all go and buy these lights in case we are late for our next appointment.
 
160 on a single lane road that is notorious for accidents AND it was peak hour traffic - well as peak hour as it gets in northern KZN :cool:

:eek:

NKZN roads :eek:

Now there's an accident waiting to happen :sick:
 
eye-witnesses said that Public Works MEC Lydia Johnson’s high-speed motor cavalcade, which was racing to get to the Legislature in Pietermaritzburg for Premier S’bu Ndebele’s state of the province address
The main gripe I have is that they wouldn't tolerate a citizen in a hurry to get to work, but the MEC can? I thought they were supposed to be working for us, not the other way around. So wtf gives them more rights than us? I agree the b!tch should be sued :/

Wait but they ARE doing something about this kind of behaviour, they're cracking down on motorists with tinted windows :rolleyes:
 
Interesting article on cavalcades from a moonbat and government crony in "The Witness"

Africa has a tendency to emphasise the VIP status of a VIP, writes COLIN GARDNER


Much has been written recently about the high-speed motorcades which are used in South Africa to whisk political VIPs from one venue to another. I approach the topic with some diffidence, as I have a number of mixed feelings about the matter; I also cannot claim to be well-informed about the no doubt rich and varied history of cavalcades and motorcades. But I feel some compulsion to attempt to say something partly because so many letter-writers have expressed their views on the subject.

Perhaps I might begin by saying a little about these letters, in this and in other newspapers. The letter-writing columns are of course an important facet of a democracy: firmly and often passionately people express their views, which are frequently critical of the powers that be, without any fear that some Big Brother is likely to victimise them. Writing letters to the newspaper is also frustrating, however, as the views that get expressed seem seldom to be taken account of by those same powers that be. As things stand at the moment, the overwhelming majority of letters to the editor tend to come, not surprisingly, from members of the minority groups in our society. The amount of indignation that has been aroused by the fast motorcades has been remarkable. There could hardly have been more letters if the motorcades had killed several people – which they have not (so far, thank God).

It is quite often cultural clashes which cause both indignation and letters to the editor. Are these motorcades, then, a focus of specifically cultural disagreement? Perhaps they are.

In the history of Europe grand processions and cavalcades (the word comes from the French word for a horse) were the prerogative of royalty. As monarchs lost their political power or simply faded away, cavalcades, where they took place at all, were associated with political leaders. But with the advent of democracy, cavalcades became problematical: they emphasise the VIP status of the incumbent, whereas the thrust of democracy is that the incumbent is a man or woman of the same sort as everyone else.

The tension between the president or prime minister or cabinet minister as a VIP and as an ordinary person is a tricky one, and different societies have tended to handle it in different ways. Britain, for example, with its passion for discretion and understatement, tries to avoid anything approaching a noisy motorcade. VIPs are ushered quietly, undramatically and expertly from place to place without anyone knowing what has happened. (Britain does, however, still allow its queen to hold occasional stately processions which interfere with the normal traffic flow quite seriously.) Other countries, on the other hand, are not averse to a little razzmatazz. One thinks of the United States for example. Africa is a continent which seems to have a distinct general tendency to emphasise the VIP status of a VIP. This is at times alarming: people like Jean Bokassa, Idi Amin and Robert Mugabe have allowed themselves to become such super-VIPs that ordinary people get left behind, or worse. But the desire to see a VIP as a somewhat special person — a desire which probably everyone feels to some degree — is not necessarily in itself a bad thing. I think that behind some of the letters of complaint about swift motorcades there may lie the instincts of a discreet European unhappy about an African sense of the VIP.

But there is another important consideration, one that is indeed so important that what I have written so far might seem largely irrelevant. That is the question of security. VIPs, some of them, like to show themselves; but they also like to hide from possible assassins. Political assassination is a danger everywhere, even in the calmest countries, but in some places the danger is quite intense. What of South Africa? There is a lot of crime here, as everyone knows. We are a fairly stable polity, in which assassination would not make much sense, but on the other hand our new democracy began at a time when there was a good deal of political violence and many more threats of violence. An anxiety about security could hardly be described as irrational.

But then there is the further question: do rapid cavalcades provide more security than the movement of people at an ordinary speed in ordinary cars? I don’t know, but perhaps they do.

A recent letter to this paper by Logan Maistry, writing on behalf of the KwaZulu-Natal premier, pointed out that swift motor cavalcades are not by any means unknown in other countries, and that our traffic laws do make provision for such cavalcades (just as they do for fast-moving ambulances or police cars): they all fall, it seems, into the category of emergencies.

My own personal taste, I have to admit, is for a somewhat quieter and less intrusive form of VIP security. Blazing sirens remind me of what I have read of fiercely repressive regimes. I can understand the feelings of the letter-writers. But I think it may be to some degree a cultural issue, and maybe those who are unhappy should try to be more tolerant.

On the other hand, the powers that be might consider a rethink on this issue.

http://www.witness.co.za/default.asp?myAction=detail&myRef=50923&myCat=feat

Subtly put and with a large dose of PC but still the same conclusion.

It's the intolerant white people again as is so often the case :rolleyes:
 
Ah calling people on abusing government power and acting like rulers rather then servants is a cultural thing now. How quaint.

This man is an idiot.
 
Oh no it's seems S'bu is upset with the negative publicity :(

Premier disputes blue-light story

I strongly condemn the consistent rubbishing of my name by The Witness. This comes after I was again mentioned in a front-page story entitled “Family's blue-light trauma” which appeared in The Witness yesterday.

Well in S'bu's defence the Witness is known for it's lack of accuracy at least in International news :o

I have been overseas and yesterday was my first day back at work since the beginning of April. There is no record of the incident mentioned in the article at any South African Police Service station or traffic police station in KwaZulu-Natal or anywhere else in the country

Read the editors reply at the end ;)


According to the article, “The black BMW X5 had the registration number NXH 599 GP, which The Witness was told by traffic authorities is non-existent.” Therefore, at this stage, we have no concrete proof to believe that this incident indeed occurred because if it had indeed happened, a charge would have been laid.

Interesting.....

Further, each time The Witness publishes a story about “blue lights”, the story is linked to a claim by a motorist that he was forced off the road by the premier’s convoy on the way to slain historian David Rattray’s funeral. As stated several times before, this incident is a lie and did not occur. If I encountered the motorist the moment I alighted from my vehicle at the funeral and if it is then alleged by this motorist that the driver of the vehicle in which I was travelling was driving in excess of 160 kilometres per hour, is it then not logical to conclude that this cannot be true if this motorist travelling in a Toyota Corolla arrived at the funeral before me?


Maybe you stopped somewhere and it has since slipped your mind. Or the motorist likes to speed :D

I have taken an oath both as premier and member of the provincial legislature to serve our citizens loyally.

Oh well given this government's track record that clears everything up ;)

But it seems that The Witness would rather believe allegations made by an ordinary member of the public than believe the premier

Why not? This really is the whole country's problem in one simple sentence.

The Editor responds:
It was never stated that the premier was involved in the incident that occurred on the N3 at the weekend. The Witness stands by its story.


Bwahaha oops :o :D


More Banana Republic Express stories here...

http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?p=979177#post979177
 
But it seems that The Witness would rather believe allegations made by an ordinary member of the public than believe the premier
The arrogant f#ck!!!!!

Firstly he is a civil servant, the ordinary public pays his salary and secondly the integrity of government employees is such that the average person on the street these days actually has more credibility.
 
Whistle-blower targeted

Traffic Department demands identity of blue-light cellphone photographer

The Witness has received a letter of demand from Strauss Daly Attorneys, stating that the Department of Transport (DoT) is demanding details of the motorist who provided video footage of Premier S’bu Ndebele’s convoy.

The video footage was sent to The Witness in the wake of a controversy surrounding the conduct of Jacob Zuma’s convoy on Sunday, April 8, by a motorist claiming that he was forced out of the fast lane by the premier’s convoy and was so angered by this that he gave chase, capturing evidence of the incident on his cellphone camera. Weekend Witness published a story on Saturday, April 14, featuring the photos and the man’s account of what happened.

The Witness has declined to hand over the motorist’s details the the department. To do so would contravene the journalism Code of Ethics, which guarantees the protection of reporters’ sources when they have been given information in confidence.

The letter, signed by an A.Z. Khoza, says that the DoT requires the identity and contact particulars of the man in order to finalise an investigation surrounding road traffic violations.

The man was speeding to catch up with the convoy. One of the movies he took (see below) shows his speedometer registering the high speed he needed to keep up in order to tail the convoy.

Later yesterday afternoon, Maistry said: “convoys driven by police and traffic officials are within their rights to drive fast with blue lights flashing if they deem the situation to require this. We are therefore not collaborating with The Witness on their agenda on this issue. The Witness has their own agenda regarding this matter — continue with it.”
 
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