LancelotSA
Banned
AGAIN I ask you, what solution do your propose for people with babies, F_ckNut?
You seem like an expert in the field of babies....
You seem like an expert in the field of babies....
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I twist nothing, I have no argument. I do not need to do it, I did not create the problem by not doing my duty. Our health and safety department did because they are so useless and you are trying to defend them as usual by telling people it is all nonsense and reassuring them they can use those "safe" products.
Luckily not all readers are blind cause of their misplaced trust in this government and believe that they are there to look after our interests. They have shunned us for many years and nothing will change any time soon.
Well for one I raised 4 kids. As said I will do research and go to the company like Nestle' or whoever and demand a formulae with proven specifications and certificates. Cost is of no essence there. Keep all proof of reassurances in case later something happens.
Soya milk, (Not from India or Chins) is a solution.
At the moment I refrain from using any "suspect" goods and rather go back to fresh produce for safety sake. Anyway, there are different strokes for different folks. You trust this protection system of our Government. I don’t.
LancelotSA
Banned
Yip, so you are old and out of touch... fair enough! 
You can't give three month old babies fresh cow's milk.
You can't give three month old babies fresh cow's milk.
LancelotSA
Banned
I really do not see what point all these links that you are posting are meant to be proving.... you are not sharing anything new.
You post a link to a pdf showing that chocolates and biscuits may be at risk but if you were capable of reading you would have noted this in a earlier post of mine :
You are really not teaching me anything new here!
Ou grote
Honorary Master
I got one of "those" emails that float around email boxes, similar to Marine1's, anyhow just going to post the last part.
And as far as I can tell, it's only Nestle products made in China with the writing in Chinese that are affected.
btw, not interested in arguing about it (I never wrote it), just posting it.
Make up your own minds.
And as far as I can tell, it's only Nestle products made in China with the writing in Chinese that are affected.
btw, not interested in arguing about it (I never wrote it), just posting it.
Make up your own minds.
daveza
Honorary Master
Yeesh - how did Marine1's public health warning turn into a bun fight ?
As I pointed out on the Drugalyzer thread, SA does not even have Melamine testing equipment.
As I pointed out on the Drugalyzer thread, SA does not even have Melamine testing equipment.
LancelotSA
Banned
Bottom line is that the OP (who strangely enough appears to have posted a hit and run here as he has been conspicuous by his absence) posted some information he had found based on what "some guy" had said to him and thought it needed to be shared.
The trouble is he provided UK links to affected products. I then tried to elaborate on this by sharing what I had found out about the local market after doing research for the exact reason you keep punting and that is that I have a child who is feeding!
I also stated that I felt it was irresponsible to create "panic". Two infant products have been removed from the shelves. I shared these, with links.
As stated by you, allow people to research themselves. Posting links to products in New Zealand and the UK is not of much use. We are consumers in the SA market!
The trouble is he provided UK links to affected products. I then tried to elaborate on this by sharing what I had found out about the local market after doing research for the exact reason you keep punting and that is that I have a child who is feeding!
I also stated that I felt it was irresponsible to create "panic". Two infant products have been removed from the shelves. I shared these, with links.
As stated by you, allow people to research themselves. Posting links to products in New Zealand and the UK is not of much use. We are consumers in the SA market!
LancelotSA
Banned
And these types of emails always make themselves less credible by including a phrase like this.... and the thing is it usually does not even originate in SA
Out of interest the product I use has a barcode starting with 600 which according to this website, http://www.barcodesymbols.com/ean13.htm, is a South African product.... but my understanding is that these products will still use raw materials sourced from other countries so not sure of the helpfulness of that email (and Alf I realise you are just the messenger but thought I'd point this out
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daveza
Honorary Master
A big problem with the internet is that important info gets downgraded by melodramatic hysteria.
http://www.eblockwatch.co.za/ is a case in point.
The e-mailed info is very often wrong, out-of-date and appears written by the tabloids.
Very hard to take a serious issue seriously.
And that is the concern as products with Melamine was found on the shelves.
Where do you think SA is getting their raw products from? It’s coming mainly from CHINA and INDIA (Medicine) due to price. Both countries time and again were caught trading with suspect and poisonous goods. The fact that melamine was found in a SA products and the concerned company is Nestle, a so called reputable company, is just scary. How did that slip through? What else is just broomed under the carpet? It took the Health department a real long time to reveal the names of the product of concern. Why? This is not the first thread regards to this issue and I have not looked but am sure you have defended the same issues there too. As said if you feel so safe and secure, you have nothing to worry about. Leave others to make up their own mind. The posting of the information of other countries is to show how widespread this scandal reach. Products from all over the world are found contaminated and the does not exclude South Africa, where information of this nature is only dealt with once it leaks in the papers and then the usual PR comes into action of which you participate so willingly. The South African Health Department is one of the least reliable entities to trust with your health as been experienced proved many times before.
More?
http://www.bt.com.bn/en/asia_news/2...raw_more_products_found_tainted_with_melamine
Stokstert
Executive Member
Well done OC and FnuckNut for this thread and I would include clothing from China/Asia into the mix. Many clothing is manufactured and dyed by small family and backyard contractors which often use doubtful materials. In some European country's imports of clothing of Chinese/Asian origin is frowned upon or even illegal.
There are hundreds or even thousands threads about it and I would not trust our institutions safeguard us against these products.
I will try not to buy clothing from that origin and poison myself slowly.
See for yourself at or choose your own, similar search topics, at:
http://tinyurl.com/5wcuae
The postings date back some years and others are recent.
Make your choice.
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There are hundreds or even thousands threads about it and I would not trust our institutions safeguard us against these products.
I will try not to buy clothing from that origin and poison myself slowly.
See for yourself at or choose your own, similar search topics, at:
http://tinyurl.com/5wcuae
The postings date back some years and others are recent.
Make your choice.
(End of my contribution)
Ou grote
Honorary Master
And these types of emails always make themselves less credible by including a phrase like this.... and the thing is it usually does not even originate in SA
Out of interest the product I use has a barcode starting with 600 which according to this website, http://www.barcodesymbols.com/ean13.htm, is a South African product.... but my understanding is that these products will still use raw materials sourced from other countries so not sure of the helpfulness of that email (and Alf I realise you are just the messenger but thought I'd point this out
Why I added a disclaimer. I usually just delete them. This one I read.But yeah, 95% crap in them emails usually.
With Lancelot anything turns in a SA is not so bad bun fight.
What you posted is even more of a concern. So non of the Food manufacturers can test the imported raw materials and products from China for melamine.
daveza
Honorary Master
And these types of emails always make themselves less credible by including a phrase like this.... and the thing is it usually does not even originate in SA
Out of interest the product I use has a barcode starting with 600 which according to this website, http://www.barcodesymbols.com/ean13.htm, is a South African product.... but my understanding is that these products will still use raw materials sourced from other countries so not sure of the helpfulness of that email (and Alf I realise you are just the messenger but thought I'd point this out
So much for such self reassurance!
So lets stick to SA
http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=83989,1,22
Thus from a South African manufactured batch? Very self assuring.
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LancelotSA
Banned
F_ckNut THAT IS WHAT I SAID!!!! Can you read?
I said that although my product has a barcode which starts with 600 it means nothing as the raw materials are sourced elsewhere! Geez, you are a pain to chat with!
I said that although my product has a barcode which starts with 600 it means nothing as the raw materials are sourced elsewhere! Geez, you are a pain to chat with!
marine1
Honorary Master
They are saying that absolutely NO Melamine should be in food at all.
The only reason is to increase the protein reading.
Panic? Ofcourse this is cause for panic.
The only reason is to increase the protein reading.
Panic? Ofcourse this is cause for panic.
marine1
Honorary Master
I just dont get you guys. You only complain when something you actually can SEE or TOUCH affects you however when you have been told that your kids might potentially have been poisoned you shrug it off. 