Microsoft lied about Vista capable certification

i have the 915 chipset on my laptop, i wonder where the que for the class action suit is ?
 
Alchemist said:
Vista reminds me of Windows ME
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QFT!!

I have a wonderful memory of ME :D I phoned Microsoft for support - nobody could help. My call was escalated through 3 levels of technical support at which point the poor soul at Microsoft admitted that ME "was worse than a virus and would I please downgrade my customer to Windows 98 SE" . I still chuckle over that one. I honestly wish I'd recorded the call.

With XP scheduled to be withdrawn from the market at the end of June I think we are being forced to sell and support the worst OS since ME. I have had a couple of Vista encounters and I confess that none of them were pleasant and all of them turned out expensive for the victims.

At the moment I won't even give a quote for Vista because I don't need the hassles.
 
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The sooner Windows Vista is replaced the better, geez even a super computer would struggle with all the bugs in that OS... Talking about Windows Server 2008 (I used the RC0) edition and all I can say was that I thought it was great.........

For now though I'll stick with 2003 server
 
Let's see now...

Win95, Win95A, Win95B, Win95OSR2, Win98, Win98SE, WinME - Terminated.

WinNT 3.1, WinNT 3.5, WinNT 4, Win2k, WinXP, Win2k3, Vista - Terminated.

7 in a row? Or have I got my versions wrong?
 
The_Librarian said:
Let's see now...

Win95, Win95A, Win95B, Win95OSR2, Win98, Win98SE, WinME - Terminated.

WinNT 3.1, WinNT 3.5, WinNT 4, Win2k, WinXP, Win2k3, Vista - Terminated.

7 in a row? Or have I got my versions wrong?
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Wasn't it:

WinNT 3.1, WinNT 3.11, WinNT 3.5, WinNT 4, Win2k, WinXP, Win2k3, Vista

with 3.11 being for workgroups?
 
Windows 3.11 was the most stable version of Windows I've ever come across.
 
I may be a die-hard XP fan but I have seen nothing to convince me that Vista is worth the grief.


wonder how many still work there after these leaks

Microsoft's own most senior executives were completely bamboozled by the "Vista capable" labelling scheme. "I personally got burned by the Intel 915 chipset on a laptop that I PERSONALLY (e.g. with my own $$$) [bought]", said Mike Nash, Corporate Vice President, Windows Product Management, who bought a "Vista capable" laptop, only to find it couldn't run the Aero interface. "I now have a $2100 email machine," he concluded.
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even their own executives have doubts... :eek:
 
Look, I do so hate to be the devil's advocate... But I feel the devil deserves it in this case, since I don't actually buy his products, per se.

I remember Windows XP in the early days was a huge headache - much more of a one for me than Vista is now.

The biggest pain in the arse was that it had a list of application incompatibilities that went on forever. Changing the kernal from DOS to NT was a real bitch. Nothing worked on XP.

Also, it was very heavy on resources. At least as much as Vista is now.

You could run Windows 9x on a Pentium 166Mhz with 32mb of RAM. (I know, I did.) When I got XP bundled with a rig it was supposed to run on (deja vu?) it barely started up - that was a Celeron 900Mhx with 128Mb RAM. MASSIVE difference in specs.

Look, in all honesty I don't think Vista has really added anything Earth-shattering... While XP obviously did. I wouldn't spend money upgrading from XP to Vista. That said, it isn't a problem running it unless you're trying to do it on an old machine, or a notebook that cheap-minded OEM manufacturers think can run it.

In any case, it's not like you can't turn all the visual crap off. I know one gets to the point where one wonders why they bothered upgrading, but maybe it's just my imagination.... But I've probably seen one explorer.exe crash in the year I've been using Vista, and with XP it's a semi-regular thing.

Also, DirectX 10. But that is overrated, to be honest.

By the way, Service Pack 1 for Vista does speed things up a bit.
 
general_koffi said:
You In any case, it's not like you can't turn all the visual crap off. I know one gets to the point where one wonders why they bothered upgrading, but maybe it's just my imagination.... But I've probably seen one explorer.exe crash in the year I've been using Vista, and with XP it's a semi-regular thing.
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I suppose now I'm tempting fate! :D I'm running XP on around 20 machines, a wide variety of specs from Celeron 600 on 256MB RAM to a P4 3GHZ with 2GB RAM, and I haven't had an explorer.exe crash in about 20 months. The last one was because I was testing some dodgy software (badly written - not illegal :eek:) on a workbench pc. I have to say I find XP really very stable but then I guess I'm not what you'd call a power user. I do very basic stuff like word processing, email, surfing and I use IQ for my job cards, stock and books. On my gaming rig I do some downloading, a bit of surfing and I play BF2 and Guildwars. I won't be installing Vista for the foreseeable future. Thanks Microsoft, but no thanks!
 
PCTECH said:
I suppose now I'm tempting fate! :D I'm running XP on around 20 machines, a wide variety of specs from Celeron 600 on 256MB RAM to a P4 3GHZ with 2GB RAM, and I haven't had an explorer.exe crash in about 20 months. The last one was because I was testing some dodgy software (badly written - not illegal :eek:) on a workbench pc. I have to say I find XP really very stable but then I guess I'm not what you'd call a power user. I do very basic stuff like word processing, email, surfing and I use IQ for my job cards, stock and books. On my gaming rig I do some downloading, a bit of surfing and I play BF2 and Guildwars. I won't be installing Vista for the foreseeable future. Thanks Microsoft, but no thanks!
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my vista 64 sp1 box running rock solid, havent had a explorer.exe crash here since the vista 32 no sp1 was on my rig, have xp 64 sp2 on the other partition - haven't bother with it since i got vista 64 and sp1. Just not crossing my mind yet, games and everything cool.

doubt that we will see the messiac windows 7 (or as some see it as the 3rd comming) next year allot of things can make it get delaid...

you can't really expect good performance from a resource intensive os on a piece of crap. I mean on startup vista eats about 700megs of ram, 2G's are not goign to cut it, period.

-in the wrong hands any os can be a disaster. *thinks back to techie days*
 
Robin Hood said:
And you thought its only the Operating Sytems that aint so "hot"...checkout this and see how many "probs" is there in core duo's ;)

PS: This is for the more "technical minded" guys

OLD INFO 2006---> http://www.geek.com/images/geeknews/2006Jan/core_duo_errata__2006_01_21__full.gif

LATEST UPDATED
http://download.intel.com/design/mobile/SPECUPDT/30922214.pdf
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my Q6600 is fine so far :P

...amd, i would like to see what they pull out of the hat after nvidia bought physX and is porting it to CubE (not like porting is the answer to everything)
 
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Microsoft's own most senior executives were completely bamboozled by the "Vista capable" labelling scheme. "I personally got burned by the Intel 915 chipset on a laptop that I PERSONALLY (e.g. with my own $$$) [bought]", said Mike Nash, Corporate Vice President, Windows Product Management, who bought a "Vista capable" laptop, only to find it couldn't run the Aero interface. "I now have a $2100 email machine," he concluded.
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that's comedy gold
 
Necuno said:
you can't really expect good performance from a resource intensive os on a piece of crap. I mean on startup vista eats about 700megs of ram, 2G's are not goign to cut it, period.

-in the wrong hands any os can be a disaster. *thinks back to techie days*
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:) The big thing for me is cost. I live and work in the Eastern Cape. This is one of the poorest provinces in the country and it shows in my customer's budgets. I have spent endless time with my small busines customers, educating on the need to replace equipment BEFORE it fails. It seldom happens. We use everything until it dies and then we'll bitch and moan about replacing it. :sick: Oh, and we replace using the bare minimum to get by! It drives me nuts! :eek:

In an ideal world 2GB RAM (minimun) to run an OS would not cause my customers to collapse in a heap spluttering and threatening cardiac arrest. When, in the same breath I mention "Oh, and those printer's will have to be replaced at the same time." I'm doomed...
 
PCTECH said:
:) The big thing for me is cost. I live and work in the Eastern Cape. This is one of the poorest provinces in the country and it shows in my customer's budgets. I have spent endless time with my small busines customers, educating on the need to replace equipment BEFORE it fails. It seldom happens. We use everything until it dies and then we'll bitch and moan about replacing it. :sick: Oh, and we replace using the bare minimum to get by! It drives me nuts! :eek:

In an ideal world 2GB RAM (minimum) to run an OS would not cause my customers to collapse in a heap spluttering and threatening cardiac arrest. When, in the same breath I mention "Oh, and those printer's will have to be replaced at the same time." I'm doomed...
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So true. I see this type of response nearly on a daily basis. Best of all is, I get requests on "gaming" machines but at the end of the day, the guy wants to pay a mere R5000. Same thing happened about 1 week ago. The chap came around for a gaming machine. When I showed him the cost of a particular Graphics card that cost more than R6000, he nearly had a heart attack. My response to people is that " If you want to drive a Porche, you must be able to pay for the petrol" :D
 
I use OpenSuSE at home and Windows XP at work. Both work perfectly. The few persons who tried Vista switched back to XP or gave Linux a try (and switched back to XP)
 
The_Librarian said:
After seeing the issues people had with Vista, I'm inclined to agree with you on that point.

Don't buy Vista, rather wait till next year. :)

In the meantime XP will still work :D
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Doesn't XP's support extend until next year ?
 
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