Linux and Max OS X are perfectly capable to handle what Windows vista does
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Linux and Max OS X are perfectly capable to handle what Windows vista does
killadoob
Honorary Master
The big thing for me is cost. I live and work in the Eastern Cape. This is one of the poorest provinces in the country and it shows in my customer's budgets. I have spent endless time with my small busines customers, educating on the need to replace equipment BEFORE it fails. It seldom happens. We use everything until it dies and then we'll bitch and moan about replacing it.
Oh, and we replace using the bare minimum to get by! It drives me nuts!
In an ideal world 2GB RAM (minimun) to run an OS would not cause my customers to collapse in a heap spluttering and threatening cardiac arrest. When, in the same breath I mention "Oh, and those printer's will have to be replaced at the same time." I'm doomed...
why would u need to replace the printers?
i have yet to find a printer with no vista driver
granted i only use and sell hp's
also 2 gb of memory is nothing if you consider the price of memory
remember when xp came out and everyone had to upgrade? there was no nearly the amount of moaning as there is with vista
i suppose we could all just use microsoft xp for the rest of our lives
i suppose we could all just use crt monitors and big bulky tv's because from what i can see nobody wants technology to move forward
everyone is forgetting that microsoft vista sends pc hardware sales through the roof
when microsoft make money they can develop the next great thing
when all these computer part comanies make money they can develop faster and better products
why dont we all just go back to windows 95 and not bother with all these nice fast pc's that make our everyday lives better
is it microsoft's fault that intel's 915 chipset cannot run aero?
When XP hit the shelves, there was no real competition.
Now there is, that's why a lot of people is complaining. They don't want to end their Microsoft's way of thinking about computers, but they just want to warn Microsoft about price and hardware policies.
At least some smart companies are doing this well
chiskop
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Who said we want technology to stop? We just want it to work. It didn't for me and many others.
And Linux sent my personal hardware purchases through the roof - I'd much rather spend money on hardware than on software that doesn't work for me.
And Linux sent my personal hardware purchases through the roof - I'd much rather spend money on hardware than on software that doesn't work for me.
The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
Care to elaborate?
As I've installed OpenSuSE on several computers - all of them which is working just fine without having to buy additional hardware.
chiskop
Executive Member
Err, I had one computer at home (for two users) before I became a zealot. Mrs chiskop didn't want me breaking the computer she used, so we got another. And then two more for various other projects. All but one (mrs chiskop's) are all linux.
Not buying additional hardware because I have to, but because I *want* to.
Not buying additional hardware because I have to, but because I *want* to.
Yes, Killa, if they certified the 915 as Vista Compatible they are liable!
WRT printers I have an HP 1010 of my own which WILL NOT under any circumstances work with Vista. There are many older entry-level printers still in use which do not have Vista drivers available. HP have no intention of making their older printers Vista-compatible because, in the words of their own rep: We'd rather sell you a new one! Yeah well you know where you can shove that Mr HP! I'm now selling other makes of printers.
It's not about not wanting technology to move forward, Killa, it's about being forced to spend money we don't have, against our will, for a product that is actually nothing like what it's advertised. The hidden costs for deploying Vista are horrendous and that's what I'm protesting about.
For the record, I bitched about XP until SP1 came out. I admit that I don't like change for the sake of change. I don't see anything in Vista that improves my experience at all. I don't need eye candy - I need a stable OS which works - Vista is not that OS.
The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
Agreed and agreed.
As I've said before, only eyecandy I'll prefer is that the widgets (minimize, maximize and close buttons) light up.
When I do a new XP install, I switch off all visual effects as I don't need these. Windows is much faster without all these fancy visual effects, and works just the same way as it would have worked with these fancy, glitzy sugar-coated stuff.
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If you want to drive a Porche, you must be able to pay for the petrol"
exactly.
Here's a nice new Vista bug:
I need to transfer data from the customer's old HDD (Windows ME) to the new computer running Vista Home Basic. He wants this done on-site and the new unit was not sold by me and is sealed. My only option is to open the old unit and remove the HDD, use an IDE to USB adapter and tranfer the data. Easy, walk in the park, done this a million times before with XP. WRONG!!
Vista detects the mass USB storage device but will not read it. In disk management the disk is seen but marked unreadable. Nothing I do changes the situation. I begin to think the problem is HDD related - I've never had good experiences with old Fujitsu HDDs. So I take it to the workshop, using the very same IDE to USB adapter plug it into an idle workshop PC running XP Pro - bingo, all data accessible.
I HATE VISTA!
I need to transfer data from the customer's old HDD (Windows ME) to the new computer running Vista Home Basic. He wants this done on-site and the new unit was not sold by me and is sealed. My only option is to open the old unit and remove the HDD, use an IDE to USB adapter and tranfer the data. Easy, walk in the park, done this a million times before with XP. WRONG!!
Vista detects the mass USB storage device but will not read it. In disk management the disk is seen but marked unreadable. Nothing I do changes the situation.
I begin to think the problem is HDD related - I've never had good experiences with old Fujitsu HDDs. So I take it to the workshop, using the very same IDE to USB adapter plug it into an idle workshop PC running XP Pro - bingo, all data accessible.I HATE VISTA!
The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
Here's a nice new Vista bug:
I need to transfer data from the customer's old HDD (Windows ME) to the new computer running Vista Home Basic. He wants this done on-site and the new unit was not sold by me and is sealed. My only option is to open the old unit and remove the HDD, use an IDE to USB adapter and tranfer the data. Easy, walk in the park, done this a million times before with XP. WRONG!!
Vista detects the mass USB storage device but will not read it. In disk management the disk is seen but marked unreadable. Nothing I do changes the situation.
I HATE VISTA!
Was files and folders compression enabled? Or file encryption?
Hope you told the customer NOT to go with Vista.
Makes one naaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
LOL I worked on his ME computer and found it had leaking caps. I suggested he replace it and supplied a quote. However HiFi Corp had these "things" on special for R2999 and so he bought one. I had warned him about Vista but hey, I can only do so much 
No there was nothing weird enabled. I just plugged in the adapter at both ends and it was visible in XP. So if I had just done the job at the workshop in the first place like I suggested (but really, WTF do I know?!) I could have saved myself a 25km trip, 90 minutes of frustration and I could have saved you having to read another "I HATE VISTA " post.
No there was nothing weird enabled. I just plugged in the adapter at both ends and it was visible in XP. So if I had just done the job at the workshop in the first place like I suggested (but really, WTF do I know?!) I could have saved myself a 25km trip, 90 minutes of frustration and I could have saved you having to read another "
I HATE VISTA " post.