Microsoft says future data centres will be underwater

ArtyLoop said:
I have no issue with the idea.. wish I had the cash to do something similar here in CT.
I am not trying to throw shade at the idea at all. I was trying to illustrate a point that Microcrap just like to take an idea and blow smoke up everyone's arses..
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How and where are they blowing smoke up everyone’s asses? You misquoted Gates.
 
Specific gravity of sea water
1.027

Volume of water in the oceans (liters)
1.3E+27

Weight of water in the oceans (kg)
1.3351E+27

Average temperature (C) (assumption – water is heaviest at 4C and tends to stabilize at this below the surface layer)
4

Boiling temperature(C)
100

Change required (C)
+96

Energy to raise 1 kg of water temperature one degree C (Joules)
4180

Energy required to boil oceans (Joules)
5.58072E+30

Joule to Watt hour conversion rate
0.000277778

Wh required to boil the oceans
1.5502E+27

TWh required to boil the oceans
1.5502E+15

World’s energy output 2008 (TWh)
143,851

Number of Earths required to boil the oceans
10,776,433,147

http://prebenormen.com/commentary/fun/why-you-should-not-try-to-boil-the-oceans

edit:just cleaned it up
 
Nerfherder said:
The oceans are so big that even if every data centre in the world was under water it wouldn't change a thing.
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This. The heat from a data centre is nothing compared to a giant chain of undersea volcanoes.
 
Beyond.Celsus said:
You would need a LOT of underwater servers to warm the sea that much
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In a smaller area or bay, a 1 or 2 degree change in water temperature may change the environment enough to affect the ecosystem. EG: less microorganisms present in the water. Faster, more rapid Algae growth.

That may be a problem

And there is the corrosive nature of sea water as well.
 
konfab said:
I think this will create more problems than it solves.

Currently, your server technicians do not need scuba gear in order to replace a bad drive controller. Nor do you have any risk of an oil tanker dropping its anchor on your cluster.
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https://news.microsoft.com/features...ould-provide-internet-connectivity-for-years/

The deployment of the Northern Isles datacenter at the European Marine Energy Centre marks a milestone in Microsoft’s Project Natick, a years-long research effort to investigate manufacturing and operating environmentally sustainable, prepackaged datacenter units that can be ordered to size, rapidly deployed and left to operate lights out on the seafloor for years.

...

The proof-of-concept vessel operated for 105 days. Encouraged by the results and potential industry impact, the Project Natick team pushed ahead to design, manufacture and test the full-scale module deployed in Scotland. Cutler said the latest version is designed to remain in operation without maintenance for up to five years.
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These datacentres will be designed with DR and continuity in mind. The plan isn't to replace bad driver controllers in its deployment cycle.

, it is also intelligence, and research into renewable energies,

“When you go for a moonshot, you might not ever get to the moon,” Lee said. “It is great if you do, but, regardless, you learn a lot and there are unexpected spinoffs along the way. You get Velcro at some point. That is happening in this case. We are learning about disk failures, about rack design, about the mechanical engineering of cooling systems and those things will feedback into our normal datacenters.”
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3WA said:
This. The heat from a data centre is nothing compared to a giant chain of undersea volcanoes.
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However an undersea volcano completely changes the environment surrounding the volcano permanently
 
konfab said:
You can solve the cooling problem by putting the centers near the ocean. I think you loose the latency argument the moment you are considering international waters
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I'm not sure what you mean by loose latency ?

And yes I'm saying that they will have the data centre in international waters deep down in the ocean.
That's the only way you would actually get the cooling benefit.
 
Nerfherder said:
I'm not sure what you mean by loose latency ?

And yes I'm saying that they will have the data centre in international waters deep down in the ocean.
That's the only way you would actually get the cooling benefit.
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Typo, them in international waters will add 370km at minimum of latency.

Nerfherder said:
And yes I'm saying that they will have the data centre in international waters deep down in the ocean.
That's the only way you would actually get the cooling benefit.
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Orly? Is that why Nuclear power stations can operate quite happily on surface level water?
 
konfab said:
Typo, them in international waters will add 370km at minimum of latency.
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No, if they host Data centres half way between continents then the total distance for both sides could be reduced.
So instead of having two data centres in each country you have one in between.

Orly? Is that why Nuclear power stations can operate quite happily on surface level water?
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It would be easier and colder under the sea.
 
Nerfherder said:
No, if they host Data centres half way between continents then the total distance for both sides could be reduced.
So instead of having two data centres in each country you have one in between.



It would be easier and colder under the sea.
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I think the point of these is modular items... So. If they notice an increase in sustained demand they can rapidly spin up capacity near the location... Maybe 10 or 15 kms off shore of the nearest landing station...
 
Often wondered about this, but not underwater but rather floating islands where laws can't reach.
 
Is they why the Wales are beaching themselves? Why can't humans protect the world oceans instead of using them as a rubbish dump destroying all sea life.
 
ZuluKing said:
Is they why the Wales are beaching themselves? Why can't humans protect the world oceans instead of using them as a rubbish dump destroying all sea life.
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No it's those 8k tv's of yours.
 
I would put one in a hotel in a very cold place
A really nice James Bond type hotel -- built over a glacier or something with the pod in the underwater basement
Like in Iceland
Use thermal power for operation
and
The icy cold sea for cooling
Use all that heat for other extra additional purposes -- like JACUZZI S

A match made in -- Geek Heaven ......
 
ZuluKing said:
Is they why the Wales are beaching themselves? Why can't humans protect the world oceans instead of using them as a rubbish dump destroying all sea life.
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The WELSH only beach themselves -- when they have had too much too drink ........
 
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