Mpumalanga farmer found dead

Fudzy said:
An excuse is different from motive, divorce yourself from your emotions you are going to get banned soon otherwise.
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They should ban you for trolling every crime thread on MyBB with your screwed apologetic reasoning around the murders by nobody other but brainless greedy savages. In your mind it's always about hinting that the Farmers or victims are to blame and the criminals having justified reasons for their crimes and murders. You always hint at salaries not paid, keeping cash, guns, valuables and vehicles etc, as if that justifies the crime. Should I come take your nice goods you own and that will justify my criminality? I pray you or someone close to you never end up a victim of crime and bes twould not to post here about it as I would have a great laugh instead of feeling sorry for you.
 
Seriously said:
They should ban you for trolling every crime thread on MyBB with your screwed apologetic reasoning around the murders by nobody other but brainless greedy savages. In your mind it's always about hinting that the Farmers or victims are to blame and the criminals having justified reasons for their crimes and murders. You always hint at salaries not paid, keeping cash, guns, valuables and vehicles etc, as if that justifies the crime. Should I come take your nice goods you own and that will justify my criminality? I pray you or someone close to you never end up a victim of crime and bes twould not to post here about it as I would have a great laugh instead of feeling sorry for you.
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You're a bit messed up aren't you?
 
Fudzy said:
What? The number of farm attacks outweigh the number of farm murders substantially.
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FFS get some comprehension going. I am asking WHY are the murders violent when they are committed. It's because they are being committed by violent brainless savages full of hate just like of the EFF kind and that's the issue.
 
Seriously said:
FFS get some comprehension going. I am asking WHY are the murders violent when they are committed. It's because they are being committed by violent brainless savages full of hate just like of the EFF kind and that's the issue.
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Yup if there was no torture or brutal murder I could understand it, this is pure hatred
 
Seriously said:
FFS get some comprehension going. I am asking WHY are the murders violent when they are committed. It's because they are being committed by violent brainless savages full of hate just like of the EFF kind and that's the issue.
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To quote you again:
So if robbery are the motive to these crimes why are the victims killed violently in practically every case scenario?
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You should practice what you preach.
 
Fudzy said:
You're a bit messed up aren't you?
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Thats exactly how I feel about any idiot in South Africa making apologetic excuses and trying their best to "soften the blow" when it comes to these savage and brainless murders during innocent robberies.
 
The way I see it, farmers are more regularly targeted by violent criminals than other professions, and there appears to be more unnecessary violence associated with these crimes than you'd expect. The why is important to understand from a social perspective, but from a crime prevention perspective it becomes moot. They need better protection from law enforcement. There is no getting around this point.

Arguing the why without stats to back up your position is pointless - you're playing a guessing-game attempting to assume motive on the part of the criminal. The why might help to address prevention, granted, but understanding the why shouldn't be a requisite for granting protection in the first place...
 
marine1 said:
Exactly my point, yes this may be something else but the common denominator is WHITE MALE, FAMRER
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Or a more rational none out there mind might correctly deduce that the farmer knew his killer(s) and they killed him to try prevent being identified.
 
marine1 said:
So all these farmers that are butchered and tortured .....this occurs to them? :rolleyes:
My god......
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Most of them I would posit. A lot of people get killed violently in this country who can really say what the killers thinking in all of the cases but if you look at cases where they're caught you almost always find that there is a current or former employee involved. And you say tortured as if every single one of them are tortured, which isn't true.
 
I am befuzzled why farmers get more exposure on this forum than other career choices. Are our lives worth less than a farmers? More city people get shot than farmers. More squatters get shot than farmers. Why do farmers get a bigger platform then than us plebs?
 
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I am befuzzled why farmers get more exposure on this forum than other career choices. Are our lives worth less than a farmers? More city people get shot than farmers. More squatters get shot than farmers. Why do farmers get a bigger platform then than us plebs?
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Only a few people give them the exposure because they a pogrom is under way with (white) farmers as the target. It's only a handful of people who hold that belief though.
 
bot said:
I am befuzzled why farmers get more exposure on this forum than other career choices. Are our lives worth less than a farmers? More city people get shot than farmers. More squatters get shot than farmers. Why do farmers get a bigger platform then than us plebs?
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Because without that farmer you won't have anything to eat and you will starve. Farmers are probably the most important and oldest profession in the world and they should get special protection and treatment. Without them the large population of SA will not exist.
 
marine1 said:
Seriously dont let liberal apologists drag you into getting an infraction
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Sorry, people making apologetic excuses for these savage criminals without condemning their action does that to me. I am not as privileged and accomplished as DJ and others to always remain collected.

PS: For many here on MyBB it's just "Meh, another farmer bites the dust", that's exactly what the government wants because it helps with the land reforms, thats why the commandos were dissolved and the promised replacement system never conceived, in fact many police stations were rather closed down.
 
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bot said:
I am befuzzled why farmers get more exposure on this forum than other career choices. Are our lives worth less than a farmers? More city people get shot than farmers. More squatters get shot than farmers. Why do farmers get a bigger platform then than us plebs?
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It's not just that they are shot... it's the manner in which they are killed. Farm attacks are usually violent and involve torture or terrible beatings and mutilation.
We know crime happens... what we want to know is why is it happening to these people in this manner?
Go and google "farm murder victims" (and then click on images) to see what we are talking about (I hope you have a strong stomach).
 
Garyvdh said:
It's not just that they are shot... it's the manner in which they are killed. Farm attacks are usually violent and involve torture or terrible beatings and mutilation.
We know crime happens... what we want to know is why is it happening to these people in this manner?
Go and google "farm murder victims" (and then click on images) to see what we are talking about (I hope you have a strong stomach).
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Exactly! That's what I want the apologetic towards these savages to explain even if we know the real answer anyway!
 
Garyvdh said:
We know crime happens... what we want to know is why is it happening to these people in this manner?
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Most reports indicate that the motive is robbery and the reason for torture and murder is get the victims to reveal more items of value to the criminals and more often than not the criminals could be identified by the victim.
 
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