MusicDNA to replace MP3?

No way, not if it will allow the MAFIAA to stop piracy. If there is any DRM crap in here, and if the format is not completely open, then there is no way it will replace the MP3. I think it is more likely that further extensions will be added to the MP3 format.
 
If they start to use DRM in this format I predict that a MusicDNA to MP3 converter will follow very quickly :) It will have to be good to replace MP3, and not just because of the additional metadata...
 
I don't know about the rest of you, but I just want the music.

I couldn't give a dog's bollock about @%^&ing tour dates, and who knows what other cr*pola they shove into those files.

Just affordable music of my own choice. Period.

Is that REALLY so hard to understand?
 
Why it might FAIL:
According to MYCE MusicDNA could be used by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) to combat online music piracy. “The trade group has been reluctant to embrace digital music — instead filing lawsuits against accused file sharers — but they are slowly catching up to the times.”
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what ever happened to good old ogg vorbis?? why does the opensource stuff always come in last
 
extending metadata... now there's a quaint thought.
i would imagine that in future connected world, metadata would become irrelevant because additional up to date information can easily be pulled from a server rather than having to reside with the file itself.

take a look at the new songbird player if you want to speculate about music's future:
1. web browser included, audio tracks are automatically highlighted in the page to download.
2. hype machine, lastfm, audioscrobbler, twitter, youtube, google news, flickr syndication of content built in to the interface, updated as the track changes
3. cross platform, open software, with a developer community to build plugins.
4. and of course, shoutcast audio because one day we won't be downloading and hoarding files - we'll be streaming them.

the future isn't about storing the information on the file, it's about sharing music, thoughts and opinions with others. metadata can't do that.
mp3s are the only format that play on everything i have. if you want to replace it, you'd better get broad-based support of device and os manufacturers.
riaa endorsement... who cares?
 
ave said:
what ever happened to good old ogg vorbis?? why does the opensource stuff always come in last
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+1

Everyone thinks MP3 is free... but as a manufacturer, you have to pay royalty fees to sell something that plays MP3s (usually this is included in the price of the micro processor). This is not the case with ogg vorbis. At least Microsoft pays for the license inside the operating system so that commercial applications that use the MS assemblies to play MP3s do not need to purchase a license for each product downloaded.

I'd love more ogg vorbis support out there.
 
I Agree, OGG to me is a much better music format to that of MP3 in terms of quality vs compression and its completely free to use!
 
I'm seeing no technical details on the format really...

Plus its just the company itself saying that it will replace MP3, not any external source that could be "trusted"
 
Haven't seen much detail-wise about this, and MPEG-7 they refer to is just a metadata spec afaik, hardly revealing much :p

AAC and OGG were pimped as MP3 alternatives, but they aren't giving consumers much of a visibile improvement over MP3.
 
I wonder if they built in some kind of DRM into it, wouldn't put it past those buggers

frankly I don't see the point, the MP3 ID3 tagging system has more then enough little areas to full in

ave said:
what ever happened to good old ogg vorbis?? why does the opensource stuff always come in last
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because it not widely used, whos going to download songs in OGG format when it means it wont work on something or other, I keep all my sound/music in mp3, then I know I can play it any where and edit in almost any sound editor. and seriously.... mp3 players are far from expensive
 
murraybiscuit said:
extending metadata... now there's a quaint thought.
i would imagine that in future connected world, metadata would become irrelevant because additional up to date information can easily be pulled from a server rather than having to reside with the file itself.

take a look at the new songbird player if you want to speculate about music's future:
1. web browser included, audio tracks are automatically highlighted in the page to download.
2. hype machine, lastfm, audioscrobbler, twitter, youtube, google news, flickr syndication of content built in to the interface, updated as the track changes
3. cross platform, open software, with a developer community to build plugins.
4. and of course, shoutcast audio because one day we won't be downloading and hoarding files - we'll be streaming them.

the future isn't about storing the information on the file, it's about sharing music, thoughts and opinions with others. metadata can't do that.
mp3s are the only format that play on everything i have. if you want to replace it, you'd better get broad-based support of device and os manufacturers.
riaa endorsement... who cares?
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Metadata will allways be there, but yes, if you're connected it isn't neccesary to latch everything onto the file. Having the option is very useful though, even if it is just the musical equivalent of an IMDB link.

Having a flexible metadata system also means you could have NO metadata with the exact same audio data. It's also quite likely that the latest DB info could be attached to a audio file when you download it, and then update it everytime it's played when connected to a network. Maybe when you import it to something like Guitar Hero, it just downloads the neccesary bits and stores it with the file.
 
I don't see how this will take off if there will be some sort of DRM or anti-piracy associated with it. Who cares about the metadata. I think, if the format reduced file size even more and improves audio quality... perhaps, but not with the anti-piracy tag associated with it!... FAIL i think... but lets see where this goes!
 
marcovalente said:
I Agree, OGG to me is a much better music format to that of MP3 in terms of quality vs compression and its completely free to use!
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I also agree. I took a 9 meg big MP3 and converted it to Ogg with a ogg converter in Ubuntu and it went from 9meg to 3meg with absolutely no loss in quality. Sounds just like the original MP3.

Being able to store all kinds of useless info in this new DNA format sounds like a very big foofie to me. As long as I have the Artist, Song Name and the Album Cover then im more than happy.
 
no going to make one iota of difference to piracy. How can something that is going to be more expensive combat piracy? Please. These people need to wake up and smell the coffee.
 
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