Mweb abuse email

And what is the quality of the stuff that you download? SD, HD? 720p, 1080p?

Because I do just as you do (only it's all automated) but in HD (720p for series, 1080p for movies) and I'm sitting on 600 gigs this month.

I guess thats where the difference comes in. If its a TV series/movie I like or really want to watch Ill download it in HD but if its one of the series on my list that I download just to keep up to date ill leave it to download in SD.
 
I guess thats where the difference comes in. If its a TV series/movie I like or really want to watch Ill download it in HD but if its one of the series on my list that I download just to keep up to date ill leave it to download in SD.

With series, I download the current season in HD, and when the season DVD is released (usually a few weeks before the next season premiers) I delete the HD and get the SD DVD rip.
With movies, I keep the HD version if I really enjoyed it. Otherwise, DVD rip almost immediately.

Hope that answers the "zomg HDD space!" guys :D
 
Working on the smaller figure of 350 gig lets say 11 gigs a day.

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Average 720p HD Movie = 7GB
Average 1080p HD Movie = 12GB
Average 720P Series Episode = 1.3GB
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Let me make a litttle mixup...

10 Series at 720P = 52GB a month
4 Movies at 1080P = 48GB a month
5 Gigs of Surfing/Gaming a day = 150 GB a month.

We're still at 250GB here....

You cant tell me that there are tonnes of amazing movies coming out all the time and piles of series with infinite youtube content to watch.

You sir are a hoarder, ISP's dont like hoarders.


Edit: Dont even get me started on "International Streaming" you're looking at 1.5GB a hour on 4mbit, generally you have your decreased performance, congestion etc... so you dont get that full speed. You are not going to kill yourself on it.

Edit 2: If you are looking at HD video take the size of your tv into account, if you sitting a few meters away on say a 42" LCD the difference will be barely noticeable if at all.
 
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Well i guess it was good while it lasted.

I got an abuse warning from Mweb after doing an average of 500gigs a month. Tried to curb my downloads and brought usage to 350 gigs per month still got a second warning. Now i think i am on my last. :(

Any advise as to whats out there at the great value that mweb had? Openweb's uncapped unshaped after hours thing any good?

Thanks

Hi happy

I would advise contacting our abuse team as they will explain the reason for the mails you are receiving. You can ask them further information you might would like to know and they will assist you.
 
Hi happy

I would advise contacting our abuse team as they will explain the reason for the mails you are receiving. You can ask them further information you might would like to know and they will assist you.

Thanks MWEB Guy. Im gonna try easing up on my usage and if i get a warning again i will go over to unshaped. I still believe Mweb is the best out there unless someone can tell me otherwise.
 
Working on the smaller figure of 350 gig lets say 11 gigs a day.

--------------------------------------
Average 720p HD Movie = 7GB
Average 1080p HD Movie = 12GB
Average 720P Series Episode = 1.3GB
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Let me make a litttle mixup...

10 Series at 720P = 52GB a month
4 Movies at 1080P = 48GB a month
5 Gigs of Surfing/Gaming a day = 150 GB a month.

We're still at 250GB here....

You cant tell me that there are tonnes of amazing movies coming out all the time and piles of series with infinite youtube content to watch.

You sir are a hoarder, ISP's dont like hoarders.


Edit: Dont even get me started on "International Streaming" you're looking at 1.5GB a hour on 4mbit, generally you have your decreased performance, congestion etc... so you dont get that full speed. You are not going to kill yourself on it.

Edit 2: If you are looking at HD video take the size of your tv into account, if you sitting a few meters away on say a 42" LCD the difference will be barely noticeable if at all.


Series which came out in past 2 days which i watch

Damage
So u think u can dance
Saving hope
Awkward
rookie blue
Necessary roughness
Americas got talent
Baby daddy
H+
The listener
The secret life of a teenager

10 series a month REALLY???Don't get me started on documentaries a must full HD. October there is gonna be even more series i like to watch.
 
I have not had a TV or a radio in my house for around 4 years.
We stream everything we want to watch or listen to, sometimes there are multiple computers in multiple rooms streaming content and my main media centre computer auto downloads HD podcasts for me to watch over weekends.
Even with all this going on I have never received a warning of any kind from my ISP.
 
Cool, another spot the M-Web fanbois thread. Seriously WTF has it got to do with you what the OP downloads?
 
Cool, another spot the M-Web fanbois thread. Seriously WTF has it got to do with you what the OP downloads?

Could always visit the openweb thread(s) and play spot the openweb Fanboiz.
 
You guys are so funny... You do know that the avg 720p YouTube vid is 500mb right? Thats 2 per gig = 250 vids per 500GB ~ 8 vids a day..

2 vides per gig = 500 videos per 250GB.

8 videos, I am assuming about 30 mins each, that is 4 hours a day.

For 500GB, you would be watching 8 hours a day.

Really, you think this is what any ISP is designing packages for? Do you *really* think all other average users, who are on < 20GB should be subsidising your habit?

If there is more than one avid YT user in your house, then
... you should set up a caching solution that works with YT.
 
Series which came out in past 2 days which i watch

Damage
So u think u can dance
Saving hope
Awkward
rookie blue
Necessary roughness
Americas got talent
Baby daddy
H+
The listener
The secret life of a teenager

10 series a month REALLY???Don't get me started on documentaries a must full HD. October there is gonna be even more series i like to watch.

Well, it's obvious you're a heavy user. With such heavy usage, you should be on a business solution.
 
Well, it's obvious you're a heavy user. With such heavy usage, you should be on a business solution.

Heavy is a loaded, relative term in this context. If his household watches this amount of programming, then he can't use a business package as he is not a business. He does not require the additional 24/7 tech support, enterprise grade router, ability to host his own FTP server and redundancy.

Note that before you cite piracy, which is a viable reason, there are legit subscription online pay TV streaming services. There is no reason why someone should not use those the way one uses DSTV i.e. have the TV running for many hours per day especially if less internet savvy users are watching the TV - such as your mother or grandmother.
 
I'm not talking routers or such, I'm talking business solution such as the Data only option that Mweb offers on their business uncapped, in other words, basically uncapped unshaped ADSL. Can't remember ever saying he needs to host an FTP or get a enterprise grade router.

http://www.mweb.co.za/productspricing/2/Business/Connectivity/Uncapped_ADSL.aspx

He should at least be going on Small Business ADSL if that's what his usage is like. You can't expect to pay R500 a month and download the entire internet. That's not what Home Uncapped is for, even if he's using the ADSL purely for home use. It's simply not viable in our country at the moment.
 
I'm not talking routers or such, I'm talking business solution such as the Data only option that Mweb offers on their business uncapped, in other words, basically uncapped unshaped ADSL. Can't remember ever saying he needs to host an FTP or get a enterprise grade router.

http://www.mweb.co.za/productspricing/2/Business/Connectivity/Uncapped_ADSL.aspx

He should at least be going on Small Business ADSL if that's what his usage is like. You can't expect to pay R500 a month and download the entire internet. That's not what Home Uncapped is for, even if he's using the ADSL purely for home use. It's simply not viable in our country at the moment.

Uncapped download and upload capacity for a fixed monthly cost.
24/7 Technical support.
Unshaped bandwidth.
Notification of down time.
A low contention ratio, limited number of users on the line at any one time.
All Business Uncapped ADSL packages are available (for a small fee) with a 3G Failover offering.
5 static IP addresses, enabling you to host servers and deploy VPN connections.
Ability to add more static IP addresses if needed.

These are mostly business features no home user requires and they cost money. He does not require 5 static IP addresses or a low contention ratio because he needs a live feed to a share price ticker because he buys and sells shares/forex, or needs to communicate with clients with the highest priority available or else he'll lose money etc. He doesn't need to call support when at 3am his internet goes down. He just needs to be able to do things other HOME users do across the globe and that is browse websites, listen to music, watch videos, play online games, do Skype, update his operating system, upload his photos to Flickr, etc. None of these are strictly speaking business or enterprise class activities. Hence there is no need for a business account. Businesses require reliability and speed hence the low contention and failovers, notification of downtime etc.

The clue I think here, is to look at what people do around the world with their internet. The activities I mentioned are not business activities and if MWEB wants to say they are running a comparable service to what most people in developed (and many developing) countries do with their internet then they should not be selling a service to home users if they can't deliver.

Purely home use does include watching internet pay-TV channels even if they suck 2Mbps in bandwidth. It also includes downloading programs or video files. Those are things HOME users do with their internet and not businesses. Now how much one watches or not is irrelevant. If it's done at home, for purposes of not making money, it is a home activity and MWEB should just bite the bullet and agree that some people will do that with their internet.

In the past MWEB did offer a professional router rental with their business unshaped accounts. And it is taken for granted that a business account will be more resilient to downtime, as bypass routing should be given priority to business users when SEACOM goes down. Hence he should not complain when his MWEB goes slow when SEACOM goes down but his work internet is running at full speed because it is a business account. These things all cost and he does not need them.
 
He's paying around R500 for his internet and using 500gb a month. This is a third-world country with a really rubbish telecommunications provider at the head of all our internet needs. That kind of usage is not sustainable. That's why there is a FUP. If you can't see why basically paying R1/gb on a Home uncapped account is not deemed acceptable for a Home Uncapped account in the current ADSL system, then I don't really know what else to tell you.

Mweb cannot simply bite the bullet, because people like OP are the ones degrading the service for everyone else. If the OP is not happy with what he can get for R500, then he should either upgrade to 10mb/s or switch to a business uncapped or any other product that it is not subject to an FUP.

That's all there is to it.
 
He's paying around R500 for his internet and using 500gb a month. This is a third-world country with a really rubbish telecommunications provider at the head of all our internet needs. That kind of usage is not sustainable. That's why there is a FUP. If you can't see why basically paying R1/gb on a Home uncapped account is not deemed acceptable for a Home Uncapped account in the current ADSL system, then I don't really know what else to tell you.

Mweb cannot simply bite the bullet, because people like OP are the ones degrading the service for everyone else. If the OP is not happy with what he can get for R500, then he should either upgrade to 10mb/s or switch to a business uncapped or any other product that it is not subject to an FUP.

That's all there is to it.

I am on 10megs and paying R1000. 500 gigs excessive?maybe, but i am not complaining all i am asking if there is an isp that wont complain if i use 500 gigs a month. As for me causing other users to suffer when i download i really don't see how i am to blame for using maximum of what mweb gives. Mweb has a FUP so if i am using to much then slow me down, but because they don't is probably the reason why many users prefer them, included myself.

Another thing is that its not how much you use but about how consistently the download run, 13 gigs HD might be out of the question as it takes a while...for a third world country at least

Perhaps i should buy 2X4 meg uncapped accounts and do 250 gigs each.Would that be more acceptable to you all? ;)
 
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Series which came out in past 2 days which i watch

Damage
So u think u can dance
Saving hope
Awkward
rookie blue
Necessary roughness
Americas got talent
Baby daddy
H+
The listener
The secret life of a teenager

10 series a month REALLY???Don't get me started on documentaries a must full HD. October there is gonna be even more series i like to watch.

A month ? Look at the GB total 52GB thats 4 weeks 10 eps a week @ 1.3GB (assuming its 44min episode).
 
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