Please paste the email - I'd love you see it, as you are the first person saying this - and I call complete bull****.
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Please paste the email - I'd love you see it, as you are the first person saying this - and I call complete bull****.
Tjoker
Expert Member
As someone said in another thread. Kudos to mweb
+1
Considering he/she/it only has 2 posts, its probably another troll. MyBB seems to be filled with them trolls today.
I support this move, but this is ruining online gaming on Xbox LIVE when playing CoD. G-Connect has insane lag when joining Mweb games. Now everyone will lag when joining Mweb games. Most of the people that host games online use Mweb, so I foresee a bunch of mad people. I moved to Afrihost just for this reason.
SirFooK'nG
Executive Member
I agree, I average 100gig a month on my account.... Yip its up and down on speed, but hey, its freakin awesom compared to my old R500p/m 1mb 5gig iBurst account!
Shayd
Expert Member
Microsoft SA is right across the road from IS in Bryanston so most likely on this IS network. So XBL guys moenie stress nie.
Shayd
Expert Member
Happily plugging away 225GB average on my MWEB account and no slowdowns, will paste proof if requested. I call BS on the 45GB limit.
You can't cause I all ready did.
SpiderMonkey
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I am behind them too but I don't like them saying it's not because of financial reasons. Of course it is.
McGuywer
Executive Member
That is an interesting view point.
I would think that is not the only criteria necessary but it does make a good positive point for IS.
Only time will tell where it is hosted.
I doubt they will use on site servers. It will probably be in a datacentre in somewhere. And MS doesn't own any datacentres in South Africa yet as far as I am aware
My only concerns here are in the following quotes:
Jansen further explained that despite questions regarding its peering policy, they will peer with any ISP at no cost: “Fact is MWEB will peer with any ISP big or small at no cost. It is however each party's responsibility to get to the peering point. We apply the same principle to more than 30 international peers in London and some 20 local peers.”
Yes they are doing this, but free peering does mean that they should giv JHB routes to people like WA which I gather they do not do. Seems there is a hidden limitation although the action seems fair. They should rather advertise "Free regional peering", not "Free Peering".
The next quote :
"Jansen added that they made the changes during business hours to ensure that they had a full complement of staff in the event of anything going wrong. He stressed that the changes were not of the kind which would significantly impact networks."
In my view this is not an excuse for doing changes in the day, most providers would bring in resources after hours if needed. Believe me they have got guts to do what they are doing but at the cost of good IT governance ?
We as normal users have no problem with this, what of the domestic worker sitting waiting at an ATM for his wages which hie employer is not able to transfer because something went wrong with a change ! I sometimes think we may not always consider the social impact of what we do. By all means fight the cause, but not at the cot of those not even aware of the cause.
Jansen further explained that despite questions regarding its peering policy, they will peer with any ISP at no cost: “Fact is MWEB will peer with any ISP big or small at no cost. It is however each party's responsibility to get to the peering point. We apply the same principle to more than 30 international peers in London and some 20 local peers.”
Yes they are doing this, but free peering does mean that they should giv JHB routes to people like WA which I gather they do not do. Seems there is a hidden limitation although the action seems fair. They should rather advertise "Free regional peering", not "Free Peering".
The next quote :
"Jansen added that they made the changes during business hours to ensure that they had a full complement of staff in the event of anything going wrong. He stressed that the changes were not of the kind which would significantly impact networks."
In my view this is not an excuse for doing changes in the day, most providers would bring in resources after hours if needed. Believe me they have got guts to do what they are doing but at the cost of good IT governance ?
We as normal users have no problem with this, what of the domestic worker sitting waiting at an ATM for his wages which hie employer is not able to transfer because something went wrong with a change ! I sometimes think we may not always consider the social impact of what we do. By all means fight the cause, but not at the cot of those not even aware of the cause.
The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
the blue, green and white dinosaur one?
me thinks the Giants dismissed MWEB's warnings of cutting links as a publicity stunt thinking that they would never go through with it. After all, no-one can challenge the likes of Telkom...
Good on you MWEB for showing the big boys how you can do something good for your clients (lol I hope) and make money at the same time. They were caught napping, and now they want to make excuses for playing the Johnny-come-lately game. Anyone of those companies complaining so much could have done the same, instead they chose to keep prices (and their profits) as high as possible and ignore the fact that people can think for themselves and will vote with their wallets, given half a chance.
Good on you MWEB for showing the big boys how you can do something good for your clients (lol I hope) and make money at the same time. They were caught napping, and now they want to make excuses for playing the Johnny-come-lately game. Anyone of those companies complaining so much could have done the same, instead they chose to keep prices (and their profits) as high as possible and ignore the fact that people can think for themselves and will vote with their wallets, given half a chance.
The_Unbeliever
Honorary Master
evilsee
Senior Member
Looks like telkom peering has been cut.
I did a traceroute to www.telkomsa.net and its gone via an international route.
3 196-28-178-166.adsl.mweb.co.za (196.28.178.166) 15.483 ms 16.112 ms 16.090 ms
4 196.22.169.49 (196.22.169.49) 43.695 ms 196.22.169.45 (196.22.169.45) 41.580 ms 196.22.169.41 (196.22.169.41) 44.959 ms
5 196.22.169.61 (196.22.169.61) 44.640 ms 47.201 ms 50.865 ms
6 tengig-0-0-0-0-11.vic-up-1.mweb.co.za (196.22.169.225) 62.601 ms 52.515 ms 35.058 ms
7 tengig-0-3-1-0.mid-1.mweb.co.za (196.22.169.211) 73.598 ms 73.767 ms 74.348 ms
8 196.22.175.214 (196.22.175.214) 254.171 ms 254.576 ms 254.561 ms
9 149.6.98.5 (149.6.98.5) 263.894 ms 251.374 ms 253.587 ms
10 te7-2.ccr01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.36.165) 256.943 ms 257.743 ms 259.418 ms
11 * * *
12 te1-1.ccr01.lon05.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.49.106) 258.323 ms te2-1.ccr01.lon05.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.49.94) 257.033 ms 261.041 ms
13 149.6.2.194 (149.6.2.194) 250.254 ms 252.606 ms 253.582 ms
14 nbsc-ip-er-1-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.43.25.58) 246.786 ms 247.936 ms 234.277 ms
15 196.25.181.54 (196.25.181.54) 240.461 ms 240.746 ms 240.708 ms
I did a traceroute to www.telkomsa.net and its gone via an international route.
3 196-28-178-166.adsl.mweb.co.za (196.28.178.166) 15.483 ms 16.112 ms 16.090 ms
4 196.22.169.49 (196.22.169.49) 43.695 ms 196.22.169.45 (196.22.169.45) 41.580 ms 196.22.169.41 (196.22.169.41) 44.959 ms
5 196.22.169.61 (196.22.169.61) 44.640 ms 47.201 ms 50.865 ms
6 tengig-0-0-0-0-11.vic-up-1.mweb.co.za (196.22.169.225) 62.601 ms 52.515 ms 35.058 ms
7 tengig-0-3-1-0.mid-1.mweb.co.za (196.22.169.211) 73.598 ms 73.767 ms 74.348 ms
8 196.22.175.214 (196.22.175.214) 254.171 ms 254.576 ms 254.561 ms
9 149.6.98.5 (149.6.98.5) 263.894 ms 251.374 ms 253.587 ms
10 te7-2.ccr01.lon01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.36.165) 256.943 ms 257.743 ms 259.418 ms
11 * * *
12 te1-1.ccr01.lon05.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.49.106) 258.323 ms te2-1.ccr01.lon05.atlas.cogentco.com (130.117.49.94) 257.033 ms 261.041 ms
13 149.6.2.194 (149.6.2.194) 250.254 ms 252.606 ms 253.582 ms
14 nbsc-ip-er-1-pos-8-0-0.telkom-ipnet.co.za (196.43.25.58) 246.786 ms 247.936 ms 234.277 ms
15 196.25.181.54 (196.25.181.54) 240.461 ms 240.746 ms 240.708 ms
let us be honest
Even though I have a 384 k line uncapped/unshaped line and only get 36 k download speed and paying R 600 for it in total which really seems like a rip off...has the S.A web been freeeeeed ...maybe not totally free but its going the right direction. There was a time when I could not even dream of downloading 80 Gb a month without paying my a** of for it. Mweb really shocked the market when the introduced they uncapped at reasonable prices and then only did the other ISP start making their pricing more competitive. Mweb did not act like all the other major players just looking solely at profit. lets look at mtn,vodacom for example the only time they reduce they prices is when the competition board squeeze's them or some other player in the market decide to drop their prices. look at it now suddenly vodacom offers 3g at R400 incl 100 Mb data bundles for a year. its cheaper for me to host my solutions in the U.K than to Host it locally..who between MTN,Vodacom,Telkom and MWeb is the profit mongler??????. I would rather suffer now and have some change than to just suffer in silence for ever...
Even though I have a 384 k line uncapped/unshaped line and only get 36 k download speed and paying R 600 for it in total which really seems like a rip off...has the S.A web been freeeeeed ...maybe not totally free but its going the right direction. There was a time when I could not even dream of downloading 80 Gb a month without paying my a** of for it. Mweb really shocked the market when the introduced they uncapped at reasonable prices and then only did the other ISP start making their pricing more competitive. Mweb did not act like all the other major players just looking solely at profit. lets look at mtn,vodacom for example the only time they reduce they prices is when the competition board squeeze's them or some other player in the market decide to drop their prices. look at it now suddenly vodacom offers 3g at R400 incl 100 Mb data bundles for a year. its cheaper for me to host my solutions in the U.K than to Host it locally..who between MTN,Vodacom,Telkom and MWeb is the profit mongler??????. I would rather suffer now and have some change than to just suffer in silence for ever...