MWEB fibre: Cheaper and better

MyBB - any idea on how much it cost for a small businness to have Fibre connected from MwebBusiness ?
 
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For once Durban is ahead of JHB and CT
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Yip internet wise,im thinking that networks that blame telkom for slow or no connection have no reason to cry now,or do they...

Faik I did remember guys working in my area,i do have a wifi hotspot near by also...didnt think about that :-)
 
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Don't be fooled. This whole eThekwini initiative is a perfect example of a government dead set on destroying the communications industry, just like Sentech, Infraco etc.

Joubert explains that the Durban/eThekwini municipality is set on growing its fibre network, and is even throwing in free (or at least heavily subsidized) installations to remove any barrier of entry.
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My deepest sympathies to the people of eThekwini, who are being forced to subsidize this socialist experiment - or at least the fat cats that are milking it (mostly DiData, by the looks of it, but probably also some officials who awarded the tender). In the long term, this is destroying any possibility of a vibrant, competitive FTTx industry and access for all.

The city needs to realise (quickly) that it is not a telco, and that by being both player and referee, using tax payers' money to subsidize a few happy Internet users, is a recipe for disaster. They need to do one of two things - sell the entire infrastructure to the private sector, and give the wasted money back to the people of Durban, or open the whole network up as dark fibre at cost (NOT subsidized telecoms services) for anyone to use.
 
ads said:
Don't be fooled. This whole eThekwini initiative is a perfect example of a government dead set on destroying the communications industry, just like Sentech, Infraco etc.



My deepest sympathies to the people of eThekwini, who are being forced to subsidize this socialist experiment - or at least the fat cats that are milking it (mostly DiData, by the looks of it, but probably also some officials who awarded the tender). In the long term, this is destroying any possibility of a vibrant, competitive FTTx industry and access for all.

The city needs to realise (quickly) that it is not a telco, and that by being both player and referee, using tax payers' money to subsidize a few happy Internet users, is a recipe for disaster. They need to do one of two things - sell the entire infrastructure to the private sector, and give the wasted money back to the people of Durban, or open the whole network up as dark fibre at cost (NOT subsidized telecoms services) for anyone to use.
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The original Telkom network started of as fully government owned grid :wtf:
 
ingeon said:
The original Telkom network started of as fully government owned grid :wtf:
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Yep. That's more or less the point. When we lived under a national socialist apartheid government, and there were no private companies in telecoms, I guess we lived with it. We shouldn't have to do so now.

Telkom's access network ALSO needs to unbundled for everyone to use, obviously.
 
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Yep. That's more or less the point. When we lived under a national socialist apartheid government, and there were no private companies in telecoms, I guess we lived with it. We shouldn't have to do so now.
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Very good point - and we should try and prevent aiding another state monopoly.
 
YAWN!!!!

Blah blah blah...

MWEB's CEO keeps on saying that he will fight for the consumer... but all this article states/shows is that they are more keen on building their MWEB Business model as oppose to giving the consumers what they want/deserve since it's the consumers that's helping them achieve all this success in their business model. MWEB, NEOTEL, TELKOM ... all sitting happily in a ship laughing... Hope they realise that the ships name is the Titanic :whistle:
 
Please Cape Town Council move your backside!

Just not with MWEB and or Dimension Data - this combination is a disaster waiting to happen...
 
Ads - I strongly disagree: "using tax payers' money to subsidize a few happy Internet users" is hardly the case.

I think it's good for the municipality to provide basic infrastructure, like they do with water and waste. Durban city council is not providing Internet access, just the line!

Just the fact that there is a third option to Telkom and Neotel is great, especially because its not 1984k copper, easily upgradeable and comparatively cheap for business. If subsidies were to be used anywhere, data network links would be high on my list for economic growth and development, second to living facilities and roads. If I see my tax money go somewhere, this is the most tangible difference I've seen it make, besides the new stadium and road upgrades. I'd rather see my tax used for business infrastructure than a new stadium!

The service is good, 2mb costs around R3k a month without bandwidth - last I checked. This is were MWeb/Vox or whoever comes in providing ISP. I use two of these fibre lines, one point to point and one to an ISP for national bandwidth. Both are for VOIP and I have to say there have been one or two issues, but they were fixed very quickly. The SIP peer latency across the city is around 10ms!

DD put a 6 fibre line panel in my server room because we were the first client on the block at no cost, what a pleasure.

How is this another state monopoly? If anything this has enabled my company to grow and be more flexible.
 
Well done to Durban. I used to live in Durban (17 years ago) but moved to Cape Town. Back then the Durban Municipality was streets ahead of Cape Town's and Jhb's.
Not sure how good they are now but this is initiative is good.
All cities are commissioning Metro Ethernets so Durban just seems to be the 1st to get something out there properly.

Business before consumer makes sense since business users are concentrated, need higher service levels and more bandwidth and most importantly are prepared to pay.

R3,000 for a 2Mb line (without internet)? As a small business owner I would pay that and I would keep my ADSL line as a backup. Right now I have ADSL with 3G as a backup. With a high quality line I could also buy a quality VOIP solution that will save money on the voice costs.

Consumers often forget just how important resilience is. In certain businesses, time lost equals revenue lost which can never be made up.

The nay sayers on this blog - Well we need fibre to the curb. Who is going to do it otherwise? Telkom? Neotel? They have had their chances.

Maybe if more municipalities have success it will kick the backsides of the commercial operators into action.

Well done Durban
 
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