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let's try that again. if you get lag like that, it's probably not worth playing for the time that the lag is going. so, it's probably time to go and do something else.
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yes let's do shall we? Whenever you get lag, you like to "go do something else" right? that's your business but what the hell are you doing in a thread where serious gamers discuss the impact of lag on online gaming? Yes, you sir, are trolling
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i contend differently. but that's just an opinion. business has to come first. no business, no long term money. i am functionally ok with this, because, to my mind, gaming is just a hobby. something you do in your down time when you're not making money. yes, mweb can make money off of gamers, but my contention is that they would make /less/ money.

i agree with you - in an ideal world, sure
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My "ideal world" is where I pay money for a product and expect it to perform as advertised. in that context your idea of where and how gaming and business fits in means very little if anything at all....

yeah. "ok." i've experience that, too. but "ok" is certainly not "very good." it might be tolerable if you're dps, i'm not so sure about healing. you /may/ be able to get away with it as a tank, too. but it'd be fantastically scary.
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Again I call BS. I have ICC geared warlock and I have never raided on a unshaped connection , yet I always end up on the top 3 recount list ( boss damage ) in both 10 and 25 mode right up to LK. pings of 500-600 is good enough for any class, anything less than that is ideal yes. I don't expect Mweb to get me pings of 200-300, I just want them to provide the type of connection that allows me to play.

if lag gets to be too bad in world of warcraft, i tell whoever i'm with, if i'm with someone at the time and then i go and do something else. play a single player game. [currently enjoying "art of theft," by yahtzee.] read a book. cook a meal.
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You're joking right? if you do that you get kicked from the raid ( obviously ) and you're saved for the whole week. with the type of lag we've been getting lately you'll end up getting saved right after Marrowgar. haha,are you sure you've raided before?

right. having delurked to have that entire conversation, i'm going to relurk now, for five more years.

i don't want to pollute this thread much more than it already is.
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Alrighty then , may the road rise up to meet you.

time to stop feeding the proverbial trolls and get this thread back on track, how did the shaped vs the unshaped test pan out this weekend Will?
 
Please troll in another thread

i had 0 issues with my wow gaming this weekend pings of 350-450 all weekend infact i did a 10 man last night with 295ms and i dont use any kind of proxy crap
 
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darryn said:
Please troll in another thread

i had 0 issues with my wow gaming this weekend pings of 350-450 all weekend infact i did a 10 man last night with 295ms and i dont use any kind of proxy crap
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350-450 wow thats crappy..
 
darryn said:
Please troll in another thread

i had 0 issues with my wow gaming this weekend pings of 350-450 all weekend infact i did a 10 man last night with 295ms and i dont use any kind of proxy crap
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Highly dubious, what you've just said is in stark contrast to what many others said that have also played over the weekend - myself included . pings were terrible during the evenings. scroll up and check the posts.

do you work for Mweb?
 
LordXar said:
Highly dubious, what you've just said is in stark contrast to what many others said that have also played over the weekend - myself included . pings were terrible during the evenings. scroll up and check the posts.

do you work for Mweb?
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Not everyone works for mweb that are having good experiences with the product. Some peoples exchanges are slightly more over populated than others which is causing larger issues
 
semaphore said:
Not everyone works for mweb that are having good experiences with the product. Some peoples exchanges are slightly more over populated than others which is causing larger issues
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*sigh* maybe you could explain to us why then - like many others have stated, when we switch over to a different account, do our pings magically drop to normal levels again? I think that makes it very clear that exchanges has nothing to do with it. please think before you yap...
 
LordXar said:
Highly dubious, what you've just said is in stark contrast to what many others said that have also played over the weekend - myself included . pings were terrible during the evenings. scroll up and check the posts.

do you work for Mweb?
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i do not work for mweb, why dont you go cry in a corner or just change to another product and whine about that too
 
LordXar said:
*sigh* maybe you could explain to us why then - like many others have stated, when we switch over to a different account, do our pings magically drop to normal levels again? I think that makes it very clear that exchanges has nothing to do with it. please think before you yap...
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Excuse me you uneducated git; people on the clarinech exchange can switch to and farking account under the sun and the pings will be insane. Because of exchange issues. Im not disputing that mweb shape everything to hell and back.
 
@LikeITIS

The problem occurs on an unshaped account as well. This makes sense to me as we have not adjusted any shaping priorities in the last couple of weeks. I'm waiting on further feedback from our networks team as to what else they think might be causing this.
 
I see all the trollish retards have come out to play now, stop drooling on the thread and post something constructive regarding the problem that mweb needs to address @ the last few posters.
 
If you are not experiencing the problem or are not troubled by it, please stay out of the thread. This 10 second plus latency is a real problem. I'm in Port Alfred. My exchange is as congested as a six lane highway in the middle of the Sahara Desert. But still WoW lags like a bitch.
 
Will@MWEB said:
@LikeITIS

The problem occurs on an unshaped account as well. This makes sense to me as we have not adjusted any shaping priorities in the last couple of weeks. I'm waiting on further feedback from our networks team as to what else they think might be causing this.
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Again you mention the unshaped word. How come Mweb says they don't shape games when they really do?
 
@Lounger and LikeItIs There has been an extensive explanation of how gaming traffic is managed earlier in this thread. Please read up.

I had testing done on an unshaped account over the weekend for two reasons:

Firstly to see if the traffic generated by the new in-game content delivery system Blizzard has implemented is treated any differently and secondly to see whether or not this high latency issue is experienced by unshaped customers as well.

This effectively rules out shaping as a possible cause of the problem.

Kind Regards
Will
 
Cant we get the admins to ban the trolls in this thread and get it back on topic?

On topic : Will is trying his best to figure it out, i have been in contact with him in PM trying to sort out the issues. I was the first to bring up this 6pm-8am latency issue. We have been checking out some options and he recently told me the network team is on it. It does not seem to be a shaping issue.

With my very limited technical experience, i would assume it can be some routing issue. Lets have the professionals look at it (aka their network team) and be patient. At least this is happening in an "off period" of wow before the expansion, u can start qq'ing extensively if the network is still like this in December. This being said, we are paying for a service that has gone to #($* in the last few weeks, but im confident they will sort it out.

Please continue this thread with constructive comments like when you experience the issue, tracerts of when it happens and which tunneling service, if any, u are using.

FYI, I normally like trolling, but not in this thread.
 
Like somone previoisly mentioned, all the high latency starts after 6pm.. huge spikes and high latency for some odd reason, during the day its workable but after 6pm its a hell hole, Its my 3rd night now playing with another ISP account because Mweb is gonne make me go nuts, I play healer class in wow and do you know how hard it is to heal with 3000+ latency and then the spikes?
 
Sillicur said:
At least this is happening in an "off period" of wow before the expansion, u can start qq'ing extensively if the network is still like this in December.
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If its good december or now, we still pay for the service and some of us still want to get gear and level to raid when cataclysm gets out, its now 2 weeks and we still dont have a solution.. Mweb can do better.
 
@Lounger and LikeItIs There has been an extensive explanation of how gaming traffic is managed earlier in this thread. Please read up.
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I know Will. I do however agree with Lounger that something that is "shaped a little less" than something else which in turn is shaped a little less than something entirely shaped should fall into only two categories nl. shaped and unshaped. if something is shaped even a little bit it should fall under shaped and not unshaped. it's perhaps a little offtopic - but that's have I feel about shaping in particular

*Also: credit where it is due: Thanks Will/Mweb for taking the time to listen and respond to queries/concerns of normal and everyday users, it's more than can be said about most other ISP's. Not always easy for you but hopefully everyone will walk away from this smiling in the end.
 
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@LikeItIs I understand what you're saying, but as I pointed out to the last person who raised this issue you start to get into the realm of playing with semantics with that discussion and it really doesn't go anywhere. The terminology I'm using to explain this is the way it was explained to me by our network engineers so I'd prefer to keep it all in the same language, even if that means we agree to disagree on interpretation slightly :)
 
Will@MWEB said:
@Lounger and LikeItIs There has been an extensive explanation of how gaming traffic is managed earlier in this thread. Please read up.

I had testing done on an unshaped account over the weekend for two reasons:

Firstly to see if the traffic generated by the new in-game content delivery system Blizzard has implemented is treated any differently and secondly to see whether or not this high latency issue is experienced by unshaped customers as well.

This effectively rules out shaping as a possible cause of the problem.

Kind Regards
Will
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Sorry, Will, but you didn't answer my question at all, and the frustration continues:

1. Are games SHAPED/UNSHAPED?
 
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