MWEB not for gaming anymore

[DERoestorf]

As everybody is probably well aware, MWEB's new throttling, on their uncapped products has a lot of people very hot under the collar. I also have to agree that their uncapped products is no longer uncapped, but has a soft cap applied to it.

I am going to be focusing on the 2mb premium uncapped (sorry, meant soft capped) line offering from MWEB.

My concern however is with the gaming aspect, and what effect this new cap will have on gamers.

With the new generation of consoles coming onto the market, digital games download has taken center stage. There are already the rumors of a Xbox One without a disk drive. Both Sony and Microsoft are trying to push digital download as much as possible, and it is only going to grow in the future.

Now lets take a look at PS Plus, which offers two free games on the PS Vita, PS3 and PS4 every month, and then on the Xbox 360 we have free games for gold also offering 2 free games a month. If you own all three Sony consoles, that means you are getting 6 free games per month.

The new generation of consoles have an average game size of about 50gigs. Lets say you download a single game for the ps4, that means you are using a quarter of your monthly cap, just for a single game. Now the average patch size on the ps4 is sitting at about 2 gigs, and the ps4 downloads in the background, which means that before you know it, you could be hitting your measly 200gig cap.

MWEBGUY mentioned that you need to stagger your downloads over a 30 day period. But if you own all three consoles, get the 6 free games in a month, you can easily use more than 200 gigs in just your free games. Then never mind the online play that you want to do.

So, with digital sales in games, and size of games increasing, is MWEB still the ISP for games. I do not believe it to be true, and feel sorry for gamers in South Africa in the future, as instead of MWEB taking us into the future, they have decided to take us 3 steps back, and to live in the past, with uncapped internet being a dream.

 

[Boom3laar]

you hit that topic spot on,

Give that man a bells

 

[Jab]

Well said.

 

[Splendid]

As everybody is probably well aware, MWEB's new throttling, on their uncapped products has a lot of people very hot under the collar. I also have to agree that their uncapped products is no longer uncapped, but has a soft cap applied to it.

I am going to be focusing on the 2mb premium uncapped (sorry, meant soft capped) line offering from MWEB.

My concern however is with the gaming aspect, and what effect this new cap will have on gamers.

With the new generation of consoles coming onto the market, digital games download has taken center stage. There are already the rumors of a Xbox One without a disk drive. Both Sony and Microsoft are trying to push digital download as much as possible, and it is only going to grow in the future.

Now lets take a look at PS Plus, which offers two free games on the PS Vita, PS3 and PS4 every month, and then on the Xbox 360 we have free games for gold also offering 2 free games a month. If you own all three Sony consoles, that means you are getting 6 free games per month.

The new generation of consoles have an average game size of about 50gigs. Lets say you download a single game for the ps4, that means you are using a quarter of your monthly cap, just for a single game. Now the average patch size on the ps4 is sitting at about 2 gigs, and the ps4 downloads in the background, which means that before you know it, you could be hitting your measly 200gig cap.

MWEBGUY mentioned that you need to stagger your downloads over a 30 day period. But if you own all three consoles, get the 6 free games in a month, you can easily use more than 200 gigs in just your free games. Then never mind the online play that you want to do.

So, with digital sales in games, and size of games increasing, is MWEB still the ISP for games. I do not believe it to be true, and feel sorry for gamers in South Africa in the future, as instead of MWEB taking us into the future, they have decided to take us 3 steps back, and to live in the past, with uncapped internet being a dream.

This was the main reason I stopped my MWEB account, I buy quite a few games on steam and have PSplus as well, I also see degrading service in there online servers as well especially Dota 2 taking 10-20min just to find a server. MWEB might have started out well but now they are just as bad as the ones they condemned.

 

[MWEBHelp]

As everybody is probably well aware, MWEB's new throttling, on their uncapped products has a lot of people very hot under the collar. I also have to agree that their uncapped products is no longer uncapped, but has a soft cap applied to it.

I am going to be focusing on the 2mb premium uncapped (sorry, meant soft capped) line offering from MWEB.

My concern however is with the gaming aspect, and what effect this new cap will have on gamers.

With the new generation of consoles coming onto the market, digital games download has taken center stage. There are already the rumors of a Xbox One without a disk drive. Both Sony and Microsoft are trying to push digital download as much as possible, and it is only going to grow in the future.

Now lets take a look at PS Plus, which offers two free games on the PS Vita, PS3 and PS4 every month, and then on the Xbox 360 we have free games for gold also offering 2 free games a month. If you own all three Sony consoles, that means you are getting 6 free games per month.

The new generation of consoles have an average game size of about 50gigs. Lets say you download a single game for the ps4, that means you are using a quarter of your monthly cap, just for a single game. Now the average patch size on the ps4 is sitting at about 2 gigs, and the ps4 downloads in the background, which means that before you know it, you could be hitting your measly 200gig cap.

MWEBGUY mentioned that you need to stagger your downloads over a 30 day period. But if you own all three consoles, get the 6 free games in a month, you can easily use more than 200 gigs in just your free games. Then never mind the online play that you want to do.

So, with digital sales in games, and size of games increasing, is MWEB still the ISP for games. I do not believe it to be true, and feel sorry for gamers in South Africa in the future, as instead of MWEB taking us into the future, they have decided to take us 3 steps back, and to live in the past, with uncapped internet being a dream.

Good Day, these are valid points; especially the gaming content you refer to.

This is something that is also being discussed extensively in house.

Ultimately ISP cost is being impacted on by IPC costs. The lower the IPC cost, the lower the end user pays or the higher the thresholds.

This would mean more bang for your buck.

We are taking up this fight and hopefully we manage to get what we'd like.

 

[CataclysmZA]

Good Day, these are valid points; especially the gaming content you refer to.

This is something that is also being discussed extensively in house.

Ultimately ISP cost is being impacted on by IPC costs. The lower the IPC cost, the lower the end user pays or the higher the thresholds.

This would mean more bang for your buck.

We are taking up this fight and hopefully we manage to get what we'd like.

I recall some time back that Openweb had a hosted Steam server and zero-rated downloads from it because it was being done on local bandwidth. I know that Mweb already has Steam servers, but are they not zero-rated?

 

[MWEBHelp]

I recall some time back that Openweb had a hosted Steam server and zero-rated downloads from it because it was being done on local bandwidth. I know that Mweb already has Steam servers, but are they not zero-rated?

Afternoon, I don't think it is sir.

 

[Necuno]

MWEB is just for emails and light browsing

As everybody is probably well aware, MWEB's new throttling, on their uncapped products has a lot of people very hot under the collar. I also have to agree that their uncapped products is no longer uncapped, but has a soft cap applied to it.

I am going to be focusing on the 2mb premium uncapped (sorry, meant soft capped) line offering from MWEB.

My concern however is with the gaming aspect, and what effect this new cap will have on gamers.

With the new generation of consoles coming onto the market, digital games download has taken center stage. There are already the rumors of a Xbox One without a disk drive. Both Sony and Microsoft are trying to push digital download as much as possible, and it is only going to grow in the future.

Now lets take a look at PS Plus, which offers two free games on the PS Vita, PS3 and PS4 every month, and then on the Xbox 360 we have free games for gold also offering 2 free games a month. If you own all three Sony consoles, that means you are getting 6 free games per month.

The new generation of consoles have an average game size of about 50gigs. Lets say you download a single game for the ps4, that means you are using a quarter of your monthly cap, just for a single game. Now the average patch size on the ps4 is sitting at about 2 gigs, and the ps4 downloads in the background, which means that before you know it, you could be hitting your measly 200gig cap.

MWEBGUY mentioned that you need to stagger your downloads over a 30 day period. But if you own all three consoles, get the 6 free games in a month, you can easily use more than 200 gigs in just your free games. Then never mind the online play that you want to do.

So, with digital sales in games, and size of games increasing, is MWEB still the ISP for games. I do not believe it to be true, and feel sorry for gamers in South Africa in the future, as instead of MWEB taking us into the future, they have decided to take us 3 steps back, and to live in the past, with uncapped internet being a dream.

 

[TEXTILE GUY]

Good Day, these are valid points; especially the gaming content you refer to.

This is something that is also being discussed extensively in house.

Seriously .... :wtf:

MWEB have been told repeatedly that this policy is mistake ... this message cant be coming as NEWS to you??
Firstly it was defended vigorously... and you have told me and a few others as recently as last week that the policy of soft capping wasn't about to change .... but now its being "'discussed extensively''???

FFS - Your message is as clear as fog.:wtf:

 

[TheLaggingShaman]

Good post man. A related question, are Mweb's PREMIUM uncapped services not throttled? or what is the difference between premium and normal?

 

[Necuno]

Good post man. A related question, are Mweb's PREMIUM uncapped services not throttled? or what is the difference between premium and normal?

Same ****, differently re-branded as Home, Premium and Small Business.

 

[DERoestorf]

Good post man. A related question, are Mweb's PREMIUM uncapped services not throttled? or what is the difference between premium and normal?

Premium is also being throttled, but the cap is higher. On normal it is about 110gigs, on premium 200gigs.

They can no longer call the products uncapped though, I believe that is false advertising.

 

[Toitjie]

Premium is also being throttled, but the cap is higher. On normal it is about 110gigs, on premium 200gigs.

They can no longer call the products uncapped though, I believe that is false advertising.

Even though I am in the same boat as the rest of you, it's still uncapped... you have no limit on how much you can use, just how fast you can use it.

It pisses me off too. And to think I just migrated away from Telkom to these Mweb.
I am sure Mweb is still better than Telkom.

 

[DERoestorf]

Even though I am in the same boat as the rest of you, it's still uncapped... you have no limit on how much you can use, just how fast you can use it.

It pisses me off too. And to think I just migrated away from Telkom to these Mweb.
I am sure Mweb is still better than Telkom.

by throttling your connection, a Soft cap is applied. which means it is not uncapped.

uncapped means you have no data or speed limitations.

 

[drukkie]

I would like to see you download 200GB's of games and effectively play them...
yeah you can download 500GB per month...but can you play them all?

 

[SirFooK'nG]

by throttling your connection, a Soft cap is applied. which means it is not uncapped.

uncapped means you have no data or speed limitations.

Not according to SA Advertising authority.... Uncapped means you will never be cut off completely... Speed is irrelevant. Also Broadband is specified as something like 256kb line as minimum if I recall... so as long as they keep it within that "Broadband" terminology and don't cut the connection ... its all legit.

Another "Win" for backwards SA...

 

[DERoestorf]

I would like to see you download 200GB's of games and effectively play them...
yeah you can download 500GB per month...but can you play them all?

There is a difference between playing a game and finishing it. I would not be able to finish 4 games a month anymore, when I was a kid yes, but now I am to old, to little time. However I can easily play 4 games a month.

Also, like I said, with the size of games going up (Call of duty ghosts is already over 60gigs in size for digital download) soon we will be entering an era where a single game can be 100gigs. Hi-Depth textures are the way of the future, and as the systems becomes stronger, the games will become bigger.

 

[Lament]

Surely this can be cached somehow on the Mweb servers?

 

[SirFooK'nG]

Surely this can be cached somehow on the Mweb servers?

Even if it is cached which I suspect is anyway, makes no difference to your usage.

 

[Lament]

Even if it is cached which I suspect is anyway, makes no difference to your usage.

This should be managed by Mweb.
On that note, i also cannot see why if things are cached, why we must get throtteld/shaped when we use more than 70 GB's, 70gb International bandwidth yes, but as soon as something is changed it turns into local bandwidth.
Torrents and things like that cant be cached, but lots of games, MS updates, software can be cached which we should not be penalized (throttled/shaped) for.